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#3269764 - 06/17/13 04:56 PM youth caliber
cecil30-30
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So i've been bitten by the youth caliber/gun bug.My little girl isn't even 2 yet,but I wanna get her a youth rifle for her to deer hunt with.I know I may be jumping the gun by a few years,but hey, it's an excuse to buy another rifle,so why not?? \:D

I'm either gonna get her a Remington Model 7 or a 700 or a Ruger M77 compact.It's gonna be a wood stock,I hate plastic stocks.The calibers I have it narrowed down to are 243,260,or 7mm-08.Any other suggestions I should consider? I'm not real familar with the 260,is it a viable youth caliber recoil wise?
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#3269777 - 06/17/13 05:28 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: cecil30-30]
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7mm-08 and don't look back, I bought my daughter a model 7 chambered in 7mm-08. I put a B&C medalist stock on it, a set of Talley LWs, Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40. I find myself taking this rifle to the woods even when she doesn't go.

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#3269800 - 06/17/13 05:44 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: Rackseeker]
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243 & I will put a savage up against any 7mm08 for recoil & accuracy, just tell the time & place, buncha folks don't know what recoil means to kids, put your $ where your mouth is!
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#3269801 - 06/17/13 05:45 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: mike243]
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factory ammo only lmao
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#3269805 - 06/17/13 05:55 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: mike243]
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 Originally Posted By: mike243
243 & I will put a savage up against any 7mm08 for recoil & accuracy, just tell the time & place, buncha folks don't know what recoil means to kids, put your $ where your mouth is!


My daughters have been shooting a 7mm-08 since they were 9 yrs old. I started them out shooting 120 grain ammo. Then moved them up to Hornady 139 SSTs when they got alittle older. I'm glad you like your Savage. LOL.....


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#3269806 - 06/17/13 05:58 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: Rackseeker]
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I don't really get caught up in how small of groups a hunting rifle shoots. But we can compare some kill pics if you want.LOL...
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#3269810 - 06/17/13 06:03 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: Rackseeker]
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bring it,got em not ashamed at all,got the rifle to back it up,DO YOU?
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#3269814 - 06/17/13 06:09 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: mike243]
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A trapper style lever action in 44 magnum or 45 Colt. Buy an extra stock and have it cut down about 2-2 1/2 inches. While they are young and growing the short stock will work. Eventually, she'll grow big enough to swap back to the original stock.

Lever actions in pistol calibers are light and nimble. They also have little recoil and muzzle blast so kids learn to shoot them quickly. Cec, in the type of terrain we hunt where shots are on the short side, a pistol caliber lever action rifle is perfect!

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#3269815 - 06/17/13 06:11 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: 348Winchester]
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Beer Mug is a deadly shot with my 45 Colt Winchester and her 44-40 Rossi model 92.
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#3269849 - 06/17/13 07:08 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: 348Winchester]
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 Originally Posted By: 348Winchester
A trapper style lever action in 44 magnum or 45 Colt. Buy an extra stock and have it cut down about 2-2 1/2 inches. While they are young and growing the short stock will work. Eventually, she'll grow big enough to swap back to the original stock.

Lever actions in pistol calibers are light and nimble. They also have little recoil and muzzle blast so kids learn to shoot them quickly. Cec, in the type of terrain we hunt where shots are on the short side, a pistol caliber lever action rifle is perfect!
Well, I have been pondering a Marlin 1894 in 44mag.I had one and sold it a few years ago,regreted it ever since.I plan to buy one in the future.I only killed 2 deer with it,but they don't run far from a 240gr JHP out of a 20 inch barrel. The recoil was very light.
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#3269860 - 06/17/13 07:24 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: 348Winchester]
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 Originally Posted By: 348Winchester
A trapper style lever action in 44 magnum or 45 Colt. Buy an extra stock and have it cut down about 2-2 1/2 inches. While they are young and growing the short stock will work. Eventually, she'll grow big enough to swap back to the original stock.

Lever actions in pistol calibers are light and nimble. They also have little recoil and muzzle blast so kids learn to shoot them quickly. Cec, in the type of terrain we hunt where shots are on the short side, a pistol caliber lever action rifle is perfect!



This sounds like a good choice also, I carried my grandfathers old Winchester 38-40 lever action a couple times this passed season. But didn't see anything to shoot the times I carried it.
Your right Mike the Savage rifle chambered in .243 would be by far the best choice. LOL.........
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#3269862 - 06/17/13 07:25 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: cecil30-30]
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I'd have to recommend a single shot. I just got my ten year old a nice H&R Superlight in .243. Recoil with 100 grain loads is very manageable for her. It's also safe because you can't shoot it until the hammer is cocked.

There are some good loads out there for the .243 as well, and they aren't expensive like many 7mm-08 (also a fine cartridge).

I think a .243 is the way to go for versatility and light recoil.
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#3269885 - 06/17/13 07:47 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: cecil30-30]
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 Originally Posted By: cecil30-30
 Originally Posted By: 348Winchester
A trapper style lever action in 44 magnum or 45 Colt. Buy an extra stock and have it cut down about 2-2 1/2 inches. While they are young and growing the short stock will work. Eventually, she'll grow big enough to swap back to the original stock.

Lever actions in pistol calibers are light and nimble. They also have little recoil and muzzle blast so kids learn to shoot them quickly. Cec, in the type of terrain we hunt where shots are on the short side, a pistol caliber lever action rifle is perfect!
Well, I have been pondering a Marlin 1894 in 44mag.I had one and sold it a few years ago,regreted it ever since.I plan to buy one in the future.I only killed 2 deer with it,but they don't run far from a 240gr JHP out of a 20 inch barrel. The recoil was very light.


i will be listing one for sell real soon


but IMO

700 7/08
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#3269889 - 06/17/13 07:50 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: Deer Assassin]
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 Originally Posted By: Deer Assassin
 Originally Posted By: cecil30-30
 Originally Posted By: 348Winchester
A trapper style lever action in 44 magnum or 45 Colt. Buy an extra stock and have it cut down about 2-2 1/2 inches. While they are young and growing the short stock will work. Eventually, she'll grow big enough to swap back to the original stock.

Lever actions in pistol calibers are light and nimble. They also have little recoil and muzzle blast so kids learn to shoot them quickly. Cec, in the type of terrain we hunt where shots are on the short side, a pistol caliber lever action rifle is perfect!
Well, I have been pondering a Marlin 1894 in 44mag.I had one and sold it a few years ago,regreted it ever since.I plan to buy one in the future.I only killed 2 deer with it,but they don't run far from a 240gr JHP out of a 20 inch barrel. The recoil was very light.


i will be listing one for sell real soon


but IMO

700 7/08


a Marlin 1894?
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#3269895 - 06/17/13 07:56 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: cecil30-30]
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A 44;kicks a little but all kids are different.let them shoot the biggesf 1 they can but without shutting their eyes or yanking the trigger.I wil let folks try what rifles I have.Never let it be said I didnt help folks out.only the best for our kids imo
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#3269908 - 06/17/13 08:10 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: mike243]
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The biggest problem with a lever action is most have a stiff trigger. That could lead to trigger problems the same as using too big a round. A 243 isn't a bad choice. Or a 7-08. And I don't much difference in ammo prices. My suggestion would be borrowing a few guns and letting them try them out. Obviously that may not be the case for a 2 yr old but if possible I would.
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#3269913 - 06/17/13 08:17 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: cecil30-30]
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 Originally Posted By: cecil30-30
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 Originally Posted By: cecil30-30
 Originally Posted By: 348Winchester
A trapper style lever action in 44 magnum or 45 Colt. Buy an extra stock and have it cut down about 2-2 1/2 inches. While they are young and growing the short stock will work. Eventually, she'll grow big enough to swap back to the original stock.

Lever actions in pistol calibers are light and nimble. They also have little recoil and muzzle blast so kids learn to shoot them quickly. Cec, in the type of terrain we hunt where shots are on the short side, a pistol caliber lever action rifle is perfect!
Well, I have been pondering a Marlin 1894 in 44mag.I had one and sold it a few years ago,regreted it ever since.I plan to buy one in the future.I only killed 2 deer with it,but they don't run far from a 240gr JHP out of a 20 inch barrel. The recoil was very light.


i will be listing one for sell real soon


but IMO

700 7/08


a Marlin 1894?


yep

i owned it sold it to a buddy and now he wants me to sell it for him

but i would not recommend it for a youth gun but that it me

my son was shootin a marlin 336 30 30 at six he was so so till he got his 7/08 we both love that round
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#3269929 - 06/17/13 08:35 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: Deer Assassin]
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you can shoot any of our 243 if you would like, as long as you teach them to shoot there is no finer caliber imo. all this its not a good deer round, wont let one in my camp crap is just people who don't focus kids on accuracy! if a kid cant hit a 6in circle at 100 how do you expect them to kill a deer when the nerves hit! if you gut shoot it, it doesn't matter what you use! there isn't a deer made that a well placed shot with a quality bullet out of a 243 that can hold it! but that's just my observation lol
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#3269958 - 06/17/13 09:08 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: knightrider]
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 Originally Posted By: knightrider
you can shoot any of our 243 if you would like, as long as you teach them to shoot there is no finer caliber imo. all this its not a good deer round, wont let one in my camp crap is just people who don't focus kids on accuracy! if a kid cant hit a 6in circle at 100 how do you expect them to kill a deer when the nerves hit! if you gut shoot it, it doesn't matter what you use! there isn't a deer made that a well placed shot with a quality bullet out of a 243 that can hold it! but that's just my observation lol



excellent point, but a Savage 243 is so accurite anyone can kill a deer with it,LOL......
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#3269967 - 06/17/13 09:16 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: Rackseeker]
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7mm-08 in a Remington 700. Buy a youth model and pick up a full size stock for you to use till she's old enough.
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#3270170 - 06/18/13 08:31 AM Re: youth caliber [Re: cecil30-30]
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I think the 6.8 SPC is pretty much perfect for your application. Drawback is it is fairly pricy to get into. I think there were some M7s made, of course the AR, and the best way may be the TC Contender carbine.
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#3270175 - 06/18/13 08:38 AM Re: youth caliber [Re: mike243]
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Hey Cec, I've had my daughter shooting her Rem .243 for two years nearly now. She's 9 and has been shooting since she was 6. She started with the bb gun of course, then up to a .22, then she was shooting my old m1 carbine, then I bought her her very own rifle, the Rem .243. I plan to post video of our weekend shoot this past weekend tomorrow. She puts a little padding between her shoulder and the butt stock, and she fires away. Good luck making your decision ;\)
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#3270176 - 06/18/13 08:39 AM Re: youth caliber [Re: MUP]
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Oh, and the ammo is relatively cheap, and very easy to find too. \:\)
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#3270179 - 06/18/13 08:41 AM Re: youth caliber [Re: Plateau Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Plateau Hunter
I think the 6.8 SPC is pretty much perfect for your application. Drawback is it is fairly pricy to get into. I think there were some M7s made, of course the AR, and the best way may be the TC Contender carbine.


I am a fanatical 6.8er myself. It is a great round but in this context I would suggest a .243. There is larger room for error with a .243.In my experience, shot placement is crucial with this round and it helps if the shooter can get behind the rifle a lot. (speaking on 6.8)

6.8SPCII is good for someone who enjoys reloading a lot and can squeeze that extra velocity out of their rounds. It also helps to already have an AR build so someone can just buy the upper.


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#3270249 - 06/18/13 10:02 AM Re: youth caliber [Re: BirdDog123]
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I have to say most what have been suggested would be good. I would try to stay away from a hard kicking gun, I have seen em ruin a child from hunting. Now that being said I know a few when young liked a kicker..
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#3270285 - 06/18/13 10:57 AM Re: youth caliber [Re: KPH]
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7-08. If recoil is thought to be a problem.......managed recoil ammo.My daughter started at 7 with a 7-08 with reduced handloads. 260 is a great round as well.
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#3270357 - 06/18/13 12:42 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: AllOutdoors]
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7-08 and be done forever.
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#3270386 - 06/18/13 01:05 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: muddyboots]
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Go with the 260!!!!!!
I had a ruger m77 in 260 and that would have been the PERFECT caliber for a small framed shooter or child. Recoil was almost non-existent.
Just be careful with young shooters. I'd say the majority of young shooters ARE scared of the recoil. Sad part, they will not admit it because their dad/whoever told them it would'nt kick hard, then their ashamed to say anything. I see it all the time shooting skeet. 12-14 year olds think their "cool" cause their shooting a 12 gauge when in reality, they should be shooting a 28 gauge or a .22 rifle and its very difficult to correct that flinch or fear of the gun. Even worse, even the kid does not realize how much it affects their accuracy. Poor fit and too much recoil will ruin a new shooter.
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#3270409 - 06/18/13 02:06 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: rukiddin?]
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'There is larger room for error with a .243.In my experience, shot placement is crucial with this round and it helps if the shooter can get behind the rifle a lot. (speaking on 6.8)'

IME shot placement is no more crucial with the 6.8spc than the .243. The .243 launches a 10% lighter bullet at 300fps greater speed while burning 25-30% more powder when compared with the 6.8. The .243 does have more horsepower(larger capacity) but at juvenile deer hunting ranges you aren't giving up much, if anything, if you use a 6.8spc in either original or II configuration. Just saying- you got to hit them right to get them with a (fill in the blank).
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#3270539 - 06/18/13 05:55 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: cecil30-30]
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Remington model 7 - 243 - 100gr - sweet shooting little rifle.
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#3270659 - 06/18/13 08:09 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: Orion6]
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I'd have to recommend a single shot. I just got my ten year old a nice H&R Superlight in .243. Recoil with 100 grain loads is very manageable for her. It's also safe because you can't shoot it until the hammer is cocked.

There are some good loads out there for the .243 as well, and they aren't expensive like many 7mm-08 (also a fine cartridge).

I think a .243 is the way to go for versatility and light recoil.

What he said. My son is now 10 and shoots an H&R .243 but its not the youth model which the added weight helps with recoil. He killed his first with it when he was 7. I like the round so much i sold a 300wsm and hunt with a .243 all the time. 95-grain Federal Fusions are your friend.
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#3271329 - 06/19/13 04:39 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: Gravey]
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The little CZ Carbine bolt action in 7.62x39 is light weight, low recoil and will do the job at any range a kid is likely to hit a deer. I feel confident with mine out to about 200 yards. Beyond that, I'll just shed a tear of regret for being in an open area without something more appropriate.

But being that your daughter is only 2, I'd say that if you want a 416 Rigby, go ahead and get it. You have lots of time to buy the rifle she will actually start hunting with. \:\)

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#3271793 - 06/20/13 09:55 AM Re: youth caliber [Re: Hunter 257W]
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Cec, your Marlin 44 carbine idea is great! Remember you can start her off with 44 special loads. They will not recoil and will drop a deer.
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#3275116 - 06/25/13 06:17 AM Re: youth caliber [Re: knightrider]
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 Originally Posted By: knightrider
if a kid cant hit a 6in circle at 100 how do you expect them to kill a deer when the nerves hit! if you gut shoot it, it doesn't matter what you use! there isn't a deer made that a well placed shot with a quality bullet out of a 243 that can hold it! but that's just my observation lol


many kids can hit a 6 inch circle AT THE RANGE every time. it's a whole different situation with an inexperienced hunter shooting at live game.

the 7mm-08 is the best youth/light recoil whitetail round ever made.
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#3275127 - 06/25/13 06:46 AM Re: youth caliber [Re: stik]
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if a kid cant hit a 6in circle at 100 how do you expect them to kill a deer when the nerves hit! if you gut shoot it, it doesn't matter what you use! there isn't a deer made that a well placed shot with a quality bullet out of a 243 that can hold it! but that's just my observation lol


many kids can hit a 6 inch circle AT THE RANGE every time. it's a whole different situation with an inexperienced hunter shooting at live game.

the 7mm-08 is the best youth/light recoil whitetail round ever made.
and if thats the case than the 7mm-08 isnt going to help a bit more than the 243 because guts are guts if they cant hit them because of nerves
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#3275143 - 06/25/13 07:23 AM Re: youth caliber [Re: knightrider]
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I'm a .243 fan for the young'ns. Heck, I hunted with my Model 700 .243 from age 8 to 16.
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#3275460 - 06/25/13 02:35 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: knightrider]
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if a kid cant hit a 6in circle at 100 how do you expect them to kill a deer when the nerves hit! if you gut shoot it, it doesn't matter what you use! there isn't a deer made that a well placed shot with a quality bullet out of a 243 that can hold it! but that's just my observation lol


many kids can hit a 6 inch circle AT THE RANGE every time. it's a whole different situation with an inexperienced hunter shooting at live game.

the 7mm-08 is the best youth/light recoil whitetail round ever made.
and if thats the case than the 7mm-08 isnt going to help a bit more than the 243 because guts are guts if they cant hit them because of nerves


same for a 300 ultra mag

and your point is........


any kid than can shoot a 243 can shoot a 7/08 no issues whats so ever
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#3275522 - 06/25/13 04:08 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: cecil30-30]
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u will find that caliber is far less important than LOP- Length of pull.
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#3275719 - 06/25/13 08:38 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
u will find that caliber is far less important than LOP- Length of pull.
true and weight of rifle has a lot to do with recoil along with bullet weight vs speed of bullet
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#3275881 - 06/26/13 06:34 AM Re: youth caliber [Re: Deer Assassin]
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if a kid cant hit a 6in circle at 100 how do you expect them to kill a deer when the nerves hit! if you gut shoot it, it doesn't matter what you use! there isn't a deer made that a well placed shot with a quality bullet out of a 243 that can hold it! but that's just my observation lol


many kids can hit a 6 inch circle AT THE RANGE every time. it's a whole different situation with an inexperienced hunter shooting at live game.

the 7mm-08 is the best youth/light recoil whitetail round ever made.
and if thats the case than the 7mm-08 isnt going to help a bit more than the 243 because guts are guts if they cant hit them because of nerves


same for a 300 ultra mag

and your point is........


any kid than can shoot a 243 can shoot a 7/08 no issues whats so ever
my point is one doesnt kill any better than the other a hole through the goodies is a hole through the goodies. dead is dead no matter what its killed with!!!!!!!!!! so there is no reason to say 243 isnt a good choice for kids or adults!!
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#3276072 - 06/26/13 11:22 AM Re: youth caliber [Re: knightrider]
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if a kid cant hit a 6in circle at 100 how do you expect them to kill a deer when the nerves hit! if you gut shoot it, it doesn't matter what you use! there isn't a deer made that a well placed shot with a quality bullet out of a 243 that can hold it! but that's just my observation lol


many kids can hit a 6 inch circle AT THE RANGE every time. it's a whole different situation with an inexperienced hunter shooting at live game.

the 7mm-08 is the best youth/light recoil whitetail round ever made.
and if thats the case than the 7mm-08 isnt going to help a bit more than the 243 because guts are guts if they cant hit them because of nerves


same for a 300 ultra mag

and your point is........


any kid than can shoot a 243 can shoot a 7/08 no issues whats so ever
my point is one doesnt kill any better than the other a hole through the goodies is a hole through the goodies. dead is dead no matter what its killed with!!!!!!!!!! so there is no reason to say 243 isnt a good choice for kids or adults!!

same can be said for the .223 as well but people will draw the line at 243 and say .224 is to small of a hole not enough power but a "hole through the goodies is a hole through the goodies"

Personally I feel a .223 is plenty of power and bullet to kill a deer. the 243 is a fine cartridge has killed plenty of deer, but i could care less about it dont like it one bit.
The 7/08 is a more versatile round in my opinion. the 140 reduced recoil and my favorite 120 nbt over 40 gn re 15 @2725 fps has no noticeable recoil. I have taken several kids to kill deer with it at all ages including my step daughter which dont like shooting a 22lr, and they handled it fine

I have never stated the 243 wont kill deer it aint a bad choice but it is not my choice
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#3278815 - 06/29/13 11:54 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
u will find that caliber is far less important than LOP- Length of pull.


The most relevant and valid post of this entire thread, or any other thread about the best deer rifle for someone of small stature.
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#3279237 - 06/30/13 07:22 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: lightfoot]
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my girls 10 and 8, both shoot a T/C Encore in a 243. Deadly. they love it, however we practice with the 22 all yr. long.
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#3281654 - 07/03/13 02:53 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: AllOutdoors]
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 Originally Posted By: AllOutdoors
7-08. If recoil is thought to be a problem.......managed recoil ammo.My daughter started at 7 with a 7-08 with reduced handloads. 260 is a great round as well.


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#3282017 - 07/04/13 12:12 AM Re: youth caliber [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
u will find that caliber is far less important than LOP- Length of pull.


That's what is so often overlooked in youth guns. I got the H&R Superlight because of the short length of pull. As she grows I can change to the adult size stock for $30 and she still has a fine hunting rifle. I also bought her a Mossberg 510 mini last year because the LOP is really short (it also included a spacer to add an inch as she grows).

Fit for kids is extremely important, and what I found was a lot of "youth" models of popular rifles and shotguns still had huge length of pulls for a 9-11 year old. If the gun doesn't fit, they'll not be as happy to shoot it.


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#3286857 - 07/09/13 07:21 PM Re: youth caliber [Re: Orion6]
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I'm a big fan of the Ruger M77 Compact and I think the 260 is the PERFECT deer round for any one any age. I have nearly identical Compacts (Stainless with grey laminate stocks)one in 243 and one in 260. My oldest granddaughter used the 243 for the first two years, then she "graduated" to the 260 when her younger sister started using the 243.

BTW, we stress accuracy and had her practice a lot (centerfire and 22) before season. Both these deer were heart shots from a tree stand and some challenging angles.

Here is her first ever group with the 243, and her first two deer:





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#3287081 - 07/10/13 04:54 AM Re: youth caliber [Re: jakeway]
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That's some awesome shooting! Congrats to the young lady on the sharp shootin', and the deer!
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