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#3268305 - 06/14/13 06:53 PM Obama sex assault comments 'unlawful command influ
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Judge: Obama sex assault comments 'unlawful command influence'


Two defendants in military sexual assault cases cannot be punitively discharged, if found guilty, because of “unlawful command influence” derived from comments made by President Barack Obama, a judge ruled in a Hawaii military court this week.

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“The bottom line is: I have no tolerance for this,” Obama said, according to an NBC News story submitted as evidence by defense attorneys in the sexual assault cases.

‘I expect consequences,” Obama added. “So I don’t just want more speeches or awareness programs or training, but ultimately folks look the other way. If we find out somebody’s engaging in this, they’ve got to be held accountable — prosecuted, stripped of their positions, court martialed, fired, dishonorably discharged. Period.”

The judge’s pretrial ruling means that if either defendant is found guilty, whether by a jury or a military judge, they cannot receive a bad conduct discharge or a dishonorable discharge. Sailors found guilty under the Uniform Code of Military Justice’s Article 120, which covers several sexual crimes including assault and rape, generally receive punitive discharges.

“A member of the public would not hear the President’s statement to be a simple admonition to hold members accountable,” Fulton stated. “A member of the public would draw the connection between the ‘dishonorable discharge’ required by the President and a punitive discharge approved by the convening authority.

“The strain on the system created by asking a convening authority to disregard [Obama’s] statement in this environment would be too much to sustain public confidence.”

http://www.stripes.com/judge-obama-sex-assault-comments-unlawful-command-influence-1.225974
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#3268430 - 06/15/13 12:35 AM Re: Obama sex assault comments 'unlawful command influ [Re: Crappie Luck]
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Kinda like the Zimmerman trial?
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#3268806 - 06/16/13 07:44 AM Re: Obama sex assault comments 'unlawful command influ [Re: hunter0925]
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This guy is such an amateur. The worst part is the people that voted for him have no idea. It's apparent he doesn't know the how, when and where to be Presidential. It isn't reserved for the obvious Heads of State events. It's a full time, real paying job that doesn't come with down time and absolutely doesn't allow for off the cuff, misguided personal remarks concerning the people he's been elected to oversee as Commander in Chief. There have been rules and regulations in place to deal with military personnel since there was a military. obama opens his mouth and instantly puts the classic civilian spin on the issue instead of handling it like a Commander in Chief should.
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