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#3267496 - 06/13/13 01:39 PM Tractor question
muddyboots
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I have used an old ford 3000 diesel for all my food plot needs for the last 20 years. It has developed some motor problems and I really don't want to sink anymore money into so im comtemplating a new tractor. Everyone around here tells with the new 4 wheel drive tractors not as much hp is needed. I don't buy it. If you were gonna get a new tractor to foodplot with what would be ur min hp wanted? Thanks.
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#3267534 - 06/13/13 02:34 PM Re: Tractor question [Re: muddyboots]
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That is a hard one to answer, as it depends on what you need to do. If all you need to do is mow, lightly disk / till, and plant already existing plots you could easily get by with something in the 25 HP range (of course, it would take longer because your attachments would be sized to match the tractor). If you are talking about clearing, plowing or chisel plowing, and spreading tons of lime / fertilizer or doing quite a few acres of plots, 40 HP or more would be more reasonable.

However, you have heard right about the 4WD tractors being able to do more work than a comparable HP older 2WD ag tractor. I can easily plow with a 3-bottom 14" plow with my 50 HP 4WD Kubota in old fields that hadn't been plowed in almost 50 years. In fact, I have buried my plow just about to the top link a couple of times when I wasn't paying attention (unfortunately, the majority of new 4WD "compact" tractors don't have draft control on the 3 point hitch). The tractor didn't stall out - it just stopped and all 4 wheels were spinning but i have R4 tires on it, not ag tires.

Hope this helps!

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#3267547 - 06/13/13 02:47 PM Re: Tractor question [Re: woodchuckc]
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I have the LS 38 hp 4 wd and it hasnt let me down yet even with a 4 chisel plow. The only thing I dont like about the tractor is that pto stays in gear. (no free spin)
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#3267559 - 06/13/13 03:08 PM Re: Tractor question [Re: A.Hall]
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An awful lot has to do with the tractor's gross weight as well...some of those old tractors were HEAVY when considering the horsepower to weight ratio. Likewise, typically a 4wd is somewhat heavier than a 2wd. This translates into usable traction.

Size not withstanding (width, height, maneuverability) I always recommend buy as much as you can comfortably afford and don't forget implements cost. I use our little tractor (65hp 4wd) for things like working plots, maintaining roads, moving round bales, and tight quarters mowing...it's perfect. A bigger machine just isn't as nimble and can mean wasting resources (fuel, time, money).

That being said, my guess is that if you've been getting by all these years with 45-50 in a 2wd you'll be perfectly satisfied with a like-sized 4wd. Good luck...buying a new tractor is exciting stuff!!

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#3267589 - 06/13/13 04:08 PM Re: Tractor question [Re: Boll Weevil]
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I guess i didnt ask the question very well. Tractor data has ford 3000 listed at 47 hp. I bushog and run a 7-0 disc with it til now. I have been looking at Kubota L3800 and L3200 and was wondering if they would do the same work as my ford. I love there compact size and even wouldnt mind dropping to a 6-0 disk but i dont want to be out there for hours disking over the same crap to get it tilled up ready for planting.
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#3267601 - 06/13/13 04:21 PM Re: Tractor question [Re: muddyboots]
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Muddy...I'd say no they won't be the same. That Kubota is over 1000lbs lighter than your old Ford. That alone will result in a fairly significant difference in productivity...not to mention reducing grunt by 10-15hp.
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#3267647 - 06/13/13 05:35 PM Re: Tractor question [Re: Boll Weevil]
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 Originally Posted By: Boll Weevil
Muddy...I'd say no they won't be the same. That Kubota is over 1000lbs lighter than your old Ford. That alone will result in a fairly significant difference in productivity...not to mention reducing grunt by 10-15hp.


10-4 thats what i thought.
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#3267682 - 06/13/13 06:18 PM Re: Tractor question [Re: muddyboots]
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I had a ford 3000 diesel, my buddy has one. We both also have 32 horse 4x4 Kobotas. The ford wont out do them pulling, maybe a little stronger at the pto, that's it. We do have fluid filled tires.
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#3267694 - 06/13/13 06:29 PM Re: Tractor question [Re: tickweed]
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 Originally Posted By: tickweed
I had a ford 3000 diesel, my buddy has one. We both also have 32 horse 4x4 Kobotas. The ford wont out do them pulling, maybe a little stronger at the pto, that's it. We do have fluid filled tires.


Good info. Thanks!
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#3268469 - 06/15/13 07:51 AM Re: Tractor question [Re: muddyboots]
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