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#3266599 - 06/12/13 09:20 AM Re: Select cutting timber? [Re: treefarmer]
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Foresters can really make the sale and cutting process much, MUCH easier for those who cannot monitor progress or know what timber needs removing and what needs protecting. The only downside is loss of profit (forester's cut). But sometimes, "getting it done right" is more important than profit.
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#3266737 - 06/12/13 01:17 PM Re: Select cutting timber? [Re: treefarmer]
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 Originally Posted By: treefarmer
Definately use a professional forester for the timber sale....Ask your State area forester who he recommends for a consulting forester.


I completely agree with Tree farmer... I believe Rick Stutts is the TN State Forester in your area. I send his cell # by PM.

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#3266742 - 06/12/13 01:19 PM Re: Select cutting timber? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Foresters can really make the sale and cutting process much, MUCH easier for those who cannot monitor progress or know what timber needs removing and what needs protecting. The only downside is loss of profit (forester's cut). But sometimes, "getting it done right" is more important than profit.


Not always the case, but I made well over $10K extra by using a forester. I would have accepted the December bids without expert help. As BSK stated, "getting it done right" was my main objectives. I was very restrictive on when and how they will cut my place.
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#3266784 - 06/12/13 02:21 PM Re: Select cutting timber? [Re: TNlandowner]
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Jim...I sent you a PM.
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#3266860 - 06/12/13 03:54 PM Re: Select cutting timber? [Re: TNlandowner]
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 Originally Posted By: TNlandowner
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Foresters can really make the sale and cutting process much, MUCH easier for those who cannot monitor progress or know what timber needs removing and what needs protecting. The only downside is loss of profit (forester's cut). But sometimes, "getting it done right" is more important than profit.


Not always the case, but I made well over $10K extra by using a forester. I would have accepted the December bids without expert help. As BSK stated, "getting it done right" was my main objectives. I was very restrictive on when and how they will cut my place.


I never have logging done by bid. I have it done by load of timber cut (and taking a percentage of each load sold). But then I do have some understanding of what is being cut, its value, and I can be there from time to time to make sure loads aren't going out the door I don't know about. Most people do not have those luxuries and could easily get cheated.
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#3266891 - 06/12/13 04:54 PM Re: Select cutting timber? [Re: TNlandowner]
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 Originally Posted By: TNlandowner
I just closed a contract for a TSI based "80-acre select cut" on my farm in Carroll County. I used a great private forester that works all over NW Tn. He was a huge help with the entire process. He spent a lot of time with me to fully understand my short and long term goals. It took him several days to cruise and mark my timber in a manner that was more restrictive than I would have been.

We offered the track for bids last December, but all bids were a couple thousand $$$ under my forester's estimated value. It seemed that most loggers held their prices low, hoping to cut my better timber. I refused all offers then offered the same timber last week. We got two offers that were $12K above the December bids.

We are very happy with the logging company as the owner has already visited to discuss the cut and our expectations. He fully understands my hunting and QDM goals. He even agreed to cut the sections in order of my preference, beginning with a future 2 acre pond site.

As BSK suggested, I excluded logging from 01 September - 15 January. To make this fair for the loggers, I gave them 18 instead of 12 months to cut the timber.

All in all, this has been a fantastic learning experience. In my opinion, it was well worth paying for professional help.

Good luck,
Jim


Amen to that!! My dad had a pretty good chunk of land cut 3-4 years ago and was very pleased with the forester he used. There was $80,000 dollars difference between high bid and low bid. He had about 30 acres of pines that were not cut at that time, so he called his forester last year to see about cutting them. Forester told him not to cut due to the market and wait till this year and prices would be going back up....He saved (or made) my dad a lot of money by doing that. Once my dad signed the contract for this forester, he told my dad, the 6% fee was good for however long my dad needed his assistance with anything to do with pericular tract of land...
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#3278780 - 06/29/13 09:55 PM Re: Select cutting timber? [Re: rukiddin?]
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Just curious,how much could one expect to get per acre select cutting a forest that has large trees, mostly oak, that has not been cut in over 50 years? The land is mostly hills and hollars. There is a 40 acre tract going up for auction next month adjoining my place and I have no idea what the timber value is. Guestiments welcome just to give me an idea, I was thinking of only cutting 20 inch or larger since the forest is rather mature.
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#3279161 - 06/30/13 05:42 PM Re: Select cutting timber? [Re: RutnStrut]
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Was hoping to here what some of you guys that have recently logged have averaged per acre? Any guestimates from timberjack or others would be appreciated too.
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#3279212 - 06/30/13 06:30 PM Re: Select cutting timber? [Re: RutnStrut]
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At a 40% take, I got anywhere from $1,500 to $3,000 per acre.
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#3279275 - 06/30/13 08:32 PM Re: Select cutting timber? [Re: BSK]
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We had a logger come out last Tues who was very professional and had a good rep around here. He said we have about the biggest stand of poplar hes ever seen and lots of them, but our oaks need 5 more years of growth to them. So looks like were holding off for a little while.
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