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#3265712 - 06/10/13 10:19 PM Wifes Gun?
landman
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my wife wants a rifle to shoot at coyotes that come across yard and
drive, she's worry about the dogs. They are thick this year, killed 4 since start of turkey season, 3 while cutting the grass.

She hasn't shot a lot, pistols mainly, she watched an Hickock45 video today with him shooting 22 pump. I'm ruling another AR out, need simple, wish ruger made a 10/17, thinking of a 17 bolt gun.

any ideas?

she will never deer hunt I think so ruling out most center fire
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#3265732 - 06/10/13 11:20 PM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: landman]
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#3265747 - 06/11/13 12:18 AM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: Chaneylake]
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#3265752 - 06/11/13 01:03 AM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: Model70Man]
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 Originally Posted By: Model70Man
22 Mag


forget the 17
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#3265783 - 06/11/13 05:58 AM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: stik]
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one of the cheap break action 223 with a straight 4X scope,,
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#3265849 - 06/11/13 08:14 AM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: mr.big]
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20ga with buckshot, serve double duty, home defense and definitely a effective coyote terminator
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#3265888 - 06/11/13 09:32 AM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: 1 good shot]
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Mr. Big had it right from many perspectives:
1. Inexpensive
2. Availability of ammo
3. Accuracy
4. No recoil
5. Can be used Deer hunting with right bullet.

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#3265934 - 06/11/13 10:55 AM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: 1 good shot]
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 Originally Posted By: 1 good shot
20ga with buckshot, serve double duty, home defense and definitely a effective coyote terminator


Buckshot would be illegal for coyotes...... shot size must be "T" size or smaller...... Slugs would be legal however.
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#3265975 - 06/11/13 12:16 PM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
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I'm with Mr.Big and would get her something in 223. Little H&R Handi Rifle would probably fit her nicely and won't weigh a whole lot. Or a youth model bolt action would fit the bill too.
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#3265998 - 06/11/13 12:48 PM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: Rubberduck270]
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Depends on how she shoots. Shotgun may be appropriate with a little bit of a wider pattern, or not. ;\)
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#3266025 - 06/11/13 01:20 PM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: landman]
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 Originally Posted By: landman
my wife wants a rifle to shoot at coyotes that come across yard . . . . . . .

She hasn't shot a lot . . . . . need simple . . . . .

she will never deer hunt.

If you go with some simple low-recoil rifle, I would not put a 4x scope on it, simply because inexperienced shooters often have trouble "finding" their target thru the scope. And would be assuming "come across the yard" is not a long range proposition?

For a sight, I would recommend either a lower power fixed traditional scope (such as in the 1 to 2.5 range), or a Burris Fastfire. Advantage of the low power traditional scope is no batteries needed, no switch to turn on, and much wider fov than greater magnification scopes. Advantage of Burris Fastfire (in addition to huge fov) is you can just leave it on without worrying about the batteries running down (will need to change them annually).

And don't overlook going with a 20 ga shotgun, topped with Burris Fastfire, and using heavier-than-lead loads. Get some #4 heavier-than-lead loads (my preference is the Federal Heavyweights which are 30% heavier than lead), and you may be amazed at what these will do to a coyote at 40 yards or less. The penetration is unbelievable.

Take a look at the Weatherby SA-459 Turkey gun in 20 gauge. It weighs 6 lbs, has a short 22" barrel, and a picatinny rail making it very easy to attach an optical sight.
http://www.weatherby.com/product/shotguns/sa_459/sa459_turkey

And best of all, you can borrow "her" shotgun to go turkey hunting. \:D
This is actually my new favorite "run & gun" turkey gun.
Seriously, a 20 gauge loaded with Federal Heavyweights packs more punch than any magnum 12 gauge shooting lead pellets.

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#3266030 - 06/11/13 01:29 PM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: MUP]
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I haven't seen a wrong answer yet, except the .17, IMO it's just not enough for yotes. As far as another inexpensive/quick to shoot rifle, a 30-30 lever gun would do the trick as well. Ammo is fairly cheap and easy to find, fairly low recoil, and you can find the guns themselves for cheap.
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#3266223 - 06/11/13 06:29 PM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: Kimberman]
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one things about shooting a coyote 98% of the time it's a moving target
and most of yall know the difficulty of a running shot for an experienced shooter and even more so of the times its not a clean kill
if his wife crippled one and it got away it might be too much for her to ever be willing to try it again
i know i hate to lose an injured animal.
plus the fact that coyotes are just plain hard to kill
i blew one's chest out with a 444 one time and it was still able to run about 40 yards with a hole the size of a softball where its heart used to be
given the info provided i thinking that this is close to their house and short range shots are indicated i think the shotgun is the best choice


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#3266229 - 06/11/13 06:53 PM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: 1 good shot]
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h&R .223

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#3266251 - 06/11/13 07:23 PM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: landman
my wife wants a rifle to shoot at coyotes that come across yard . . . . . . .

She hasn't shot a lot . . . . . need simple . . . . .

she will never deer hunt.

If you go with some simple low-recoil rifle, I would not put a 4x scope on it, simply because inexperienced shooters often have trouble "finding" their target thru the scope. And would be assuming "come across the yard" is not a long range proposition?

For a sight, I would recommend either a lower power fixed traditional scope (such as in the 1 to 2.5 range), or a Burris Fastfire. Advantage of the low power traditional scope is no batteries needed, no switch to turn on, and much wider fov than greater magnification scopes. Advantage of Burris Fastfire (in addition to huge fov) is you can just leave it on without worrying about the batteries running down (will need to change them annually).

And don't overlook going with a 20 ga shotgun, topped with Burris Fastfire, and using heavier-than-lead loads. Get some #4 heavier-than-lead loads (my preference is the Federal Heavyweights which are 30% heavier than lead), and you may be amazed at what these will do to a coyote at 40 yards or less. The penetration is unbelievable.

Take a look at the Weatherby SA-459 Turkey gun in 20 gauge. It weighs 6 lbs, has a short 22" barrel, and a picatinny rail making it very easy to attach an optical sight.
http://www.weatherby.com/product/shotguns/sa_459/sa459_turkey

And best of all, you can borrow "her" shotgun to go turkey hunting. \:D
This is actually my new favorite "run & gun" turkey gun.
Seriously, a 20 gauge loaded with Federal Heavyweights packs more punch than any magnum 12 gauge shooting lead pellets.


That sounds like an awesome set-up.....But.....even though its a 20 gauge, you combine a potent shell+6lb gun+inxeperienced shooter...more than likely she will only use it once, because its gonna rock her world when she pulls the trigger.

I say a ruger 1022 with a red-dot type sight. Let her empty the clip. Who cares if she kills it or not, one anywhere in the vitals will accomplish the same goal. Regardless if it drops dead right there or runs off and dies 2 days later...end result still the same.
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#3266257 - 06/11/13 07:33 PM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: rukiddin?]
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#3266324 - 06/11/13 09:11 PM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: rukiddin?]
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 Originally Posted By: rukiddin?
.....even though its a 20 gauge, you combine a potent shell+6lb gun+inxeperienced shooter...more than likely she will only use it once, because its gonna rock her world when she pulls the trigger.

Actually, you would be pleasantly surprised at how light the recoil is on this particular 20 gauge, even with potent shells. It's design really lightens the felt recoil

1) Gas operated autoloader
2) Of course it has a recoil pad
3) Something about that grip transfers some of the recoil to your palm instead of your shoulder (more so than regular pistol grips). Even with the the Federal Heavyweights, it just not that bad.

By the way, those Federal Heavyweights are also available in a 2 3/4" shell if lessening recoil is a higher priority.

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#3266337 - 06/11/13 09:27 PM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Bought a weatherby sa8 20g last year.very lite recoil shooting slugs out of it
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#3266344 - 06/11/13 09:35 PM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: mike243]
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Thanks Guys
Lots of good answers

I found a Ruger #3 Carbine today in 223

And I'm wondering about taking one of my TC MZers and putting 223 on it.

one of my daughters has a youth camo turkey gun 20 870 but I'm not thinking shotgun, we can shot several hundred yards around the house in most directions, good field of fire
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#3266348 - 06/11/13 09:37 PM Re: Wifes Gun? [Re: landman]
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And I Do like that Ruger #3
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