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#3262820 - 06/06/13 12:40 PM Apple tree ?
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Whats up with this tree?Verry little leaves,its an Arkansas Black.Another ARkansas Black,not 50 yards away looks great.Any Ideas?
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#3262822 - 06/06/13 12:41 PM Re: Apple tree ? [Re: Football Hunter]
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Oh yeah,very young trees,no more than 3 years.
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#3262852 - 06/06/13 01:19 PM Re: Apple tree ? [Re: Football Hunter]
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Any possibility of herbicide damage? Ive done that before getting alittle to much gly alittle too close.
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#3262880 - 06/06/13 01:44 PM Re: Apple tree ? [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
Oh yeah,very young trees,no more than 3 years.


Odd you ask, because I have one doing the exact same thing only mine is a winesap. It is also my only tree that is doing this. Not a possibility of herbicide damage on my end. The only thing I can figure about mine is that it is planted in a fairly wet area...probably too wet honestly, and I bet one of these years the tree may die it's that wet. Is yours by chance in an area prone to being too wet? Just curious if we have any similarity there between our trees.
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#3262932 - 06/06/13 02:37 PM Re: Apple tree ? [Re: smstone22]
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 Originally Posted By: smstone22
Any possibility of herbicide damage? Ive done that before getting alittle to much gly alittle too close.
possible,but I doubt it.I sprayed it yesterday,rained over night \:\) Im guessing,if I did get a little gly on it,all this rain will take care of that???


Edited by Football Hunter (06/06/13 02:39 PM)
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#3262937 - 06/06/13 02:38 PM Re: Apple tree ? [Re: BlountArrow]
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 Originally Posted By: BlountArrow
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
Oh yeah,very young trees,no more than 3 years.


Odd you ask, because I have one doing the exact same thing only mine is a winesap. It is also my only tree that is doing this. Not a possibility of herbicide damage on my end. The only thing I can figure about mine is that it is planted in a fairly wet area...probably too wet honestly, and I bet one of these years the tree may die it's that wet. Is yours by chance in an area prone to being too wet? Just curious if we have any similarity there between our trees.
Now that you mention it,it could be a winesap,Ive planted so many now Im forgetting,but its not in a wet area,thats not it.


Edited by Football Hunter (06/06/13 02:38 PM)
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#3263005 - 06/06/13 03:43 PM Re: Apple tree ? [Re: Football Hunter]
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Did it have leaves on those branches prior to this this season or bare all Spring?
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#3263031 - 06/06/13 04:30 PM Re: Apple tree ? [Re: smstone22]
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Did you look inside those curled up leaves? It could be an insect pest like an aphid causing the leaves to curl. Have you sprayed any pesticides on the trees this year?
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#3263404 - 06/07/13 11:01 AM Re: Apple tree ? [Re: smstone22]
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 Originally Posted By: smstone22
Did it have leaves on those branches prior to this this season or bare all Spring?
had leaves last year
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#3263405 - 06/07/13 11:02 AM Re: Apple tree ? [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
Did you look inside those curled up leaves? It could be an insect pest like an aphid causing the leaves to curl. Have you sprayed any pesticides on the trees this year?
yep,neem oil
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#3263471 - 06/07/13 12:47 PM Re: Apple tree ? [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
Did you look inside those curled up leaves? It could be an insect pest like an aphid causing the leaves to curl. Have you sprayed any pesticides on the trees this year?
yep,neem oil


It is possible that you killed off the natural predators of the aphids that are now causing damage. They will be down inside the leaves that are curled, making spraying next to impossible, unless you uncurl each leaf and spray inside them.

See if there are aphids inside the curled leaves. Also look for ants going up and down the tree tending these aphids.
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#3263475 - 06/07/13 12:55 PM Re: Apple tree ? [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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Sorry, not to hijack, but speaking of ants...I've always had a problem with them. What can I do?
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#3263526 - 06/07/13 02:02 PM Re: Apple tree ? [Re: BlountArrow]
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Where are the ants? Are they large ones tiny ones? The type of ant determines the control method.

Edited by Diehard Hunter (06/07/13 02:03 PM)
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#3263606 - 06/07/13 05:01 PM Re: Apple tree ? [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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Small ones...running up and down the trunk and branches.
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#3263636 - 06/07/13 06:02 PM Re: Apple tree ? [Re: BlountArrow]
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 Originally Posted By: BlountArrow
Small ones...running up and down the trunk and branches.


They are tending aphids for the sugar they produce. Kill the aphids and the ants go away.
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#3263729 - 06/07/13 08:21 PM Re: Apple tree ? [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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Should the neem oil kill the aphids you're referring to? This is my first year using it and my first application was about a week ago.

I should also post a pic of my Winesap that looks like FH's tree (they're twins) but it was that way before I sprayed.


Edited by BlountArrow (06/07/13 08:21 PM)
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#3263767 - 06/07/13 09:13 PM Re: Apple tree ? [Re: BlountArrow]
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The problem with killing the aphids is getting the treatment to them. They are down in the curled leaves. Yes it will kill them...even a soap solution will kill them, it is just very hard to get it on them without uncurling the leaves and spraying inside them.
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