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#3261323 - 06/04/13 12:13 PM Re: Permethrin Question [Re: MUP]
scn
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 Originally Posted By: MUP
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Permethrin is considered the most "mammal friendly" insecticide available. Although there is some evidence it can be harmful, those studies used very high concentrations of the chemical (10% or more). So far, very little evidence 0.5% concentrations cause any harm.

Now I'm sure continuous exposure to any chemical that can kill insects has biological risks, I feel more comfortable being exposed to tiny amounts of permethrin than I do the massive chemical exposure DEET sprays produce. DEET sprayed on the skin is immediately absorbed right into the blood stream, where it is filtered by the kidneys. Honestly, that can't be good over the long term.



Or pro-longed exposure to ticks for sure! Don't like messin' with RM spotted fever, or Lyme Disease!


I lost a very close friend to RMSF many years ago. It is not an easy way to go. I have a friend right now dealing with the Lymes issues. He has spent many days the past year in the hospital being hooked up to IV antibiotics. While he is showing some signs of getting better, I don't think he considers himself out of the woods yet with his health issues.

Permanone is a lot cheaper than dealing with either of those diseases.
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#3261835 - 06/05/13 07:52 AM Re: Permethrin Question [Re: scn]
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I realize I'm probably doing some genetic damage to myself by prolonged exposure to insecticides, but already having gone through one tick-borne disease, I don't plan on having another.

Kind of a Catch 22 isn't it?
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#3261985 - 06/05/13 12:02 PM Re: Permethrin Question [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
I realize I'm probably doing some genetic damage to myself by prolonged exposure to insecticides, but already having gone through one tick-borne disease, I don't plan on having another.

Kind of a Catch 22 isn't it?


There certainly isn't an easy answer to that deal. The tick-borne diseases are life threatening, so you have to do what you can to keep them away. And, with the West Nile from the skeeters, you have to keep them at bay as well.

My first line of defense will continue to be the permithrin. There are some companies out there with some shirts and hats that have it built in that seem to work. My guess is that they are clothing that is dipped in the solution like the Army does some of theirs.

But, unfortunately, there is still a need for the deet on exposed skin. I'm a lot better about washing it off as soon as I'm inside than I used to be.
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#3262009 - 06/05/13 12:41 PM Re: Permethrin Question [Re: scn]
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 Originally Posted By: scn
My first line of defense will continue to be the permithrin. There are some companies out there with some shirts and hats that have it built in that seem to work.

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And I purchased one of those shirts and some gloves made of that material. Best thing I can say about the shirt is it's a very lightweight shirt, nice on a hot day turkey or squirrel hunting. But it's effectiveness in preventing mosquito and tick bites has been disappointing, although it does work to some degree.

I also mix up a little stronger concentration of permethrin of use on my snake boots, as the outside of my boots doesn't come in contact with my skin. I think most of the time, our boots and lower legs are the first places ticks get on us, then they start crawling upward.

In addition to doing a good job spraying your shirt collars, be sure to open up any folded shirt collars and spray under the collars, as this may be your last line of defense before a tick gets in your hair.

 Originally Posted By: scn
But, unfortunately, there is still a need for the deet on exposed skin.

Very true, in the case of mosquitoes.
But if mosquitoes aren't much a problem, I usually just go with the permethrin pre-soaked in my clothing.

But best thing I've found for really bad mosquitoes is thicker clothing and a headnet.

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#3262018 - 06/05/13 12:58 PM Re: Permethrin Question [Re: Wes Parrish]
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I remember someone posting here that putting a dryer sheet underneath your hat/cap would deter the skeeters. I tried it and it seems to work, keeping them away from my growing bald spot that they seem to target thru any cap I may be wearing. \:\/
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#3262515 - 06/06/13 12:19 AM Re: Permethrin Question [Re: MUP]
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#3262627 - 06/06/13 08:28 AM Re: Permethrin Question [Re: MUP]
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 Originally Posted By: MUP
...keeping them away from my growing bald spot that they seem to target thru any cap I may be wearing. \:\/


Amazing how quick they find the bald spot, isn't it?! ;\)
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#3262658 - 06/06/13 09:08 AM Re: Permethrin Question [Re: BSK]
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15:1 seems to be a pretty often used ratio,from what I have been reading,so that is what I am going to mix mine up at today.
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#3262748 - 06/06/13 11:16 AM Re: Permethrin Question [Re: fourwheeler431]
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It works wonders, last year I just bought the stuff in a spray can and followed the directions and most bugs left me alone. I was getting attacked by bee's like everytime I went in the woods and it even helped on that also. IIRC, it wasn't too expensive at all and it treated all of my hunting clothes.
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#3262793 - 06/06/13 12:16 PM Re: Permethrin Question [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: MUP
...keeping them away from my growing bald spot that they seem to target thru any cap I may be wearing. \:\/


Amazing how quick they find the bald spot, isn't it?! ;\)


And HOW!
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