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#3261170 - 06/04/13 08:42 AM Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot
Mr. Hawk
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I am a newby to food plots. I got the quality deer management food plot book that all you recommended and put my first plot in this March with clover/chicory. I live out of town and just had a chance to check on it yesterday and the pics show what is going on. My question is: do i just need to mow down the weeds so that the clover can compete or should I spray, or both? There is lots of clover and chicory but the weeds are much higher. Also, not real sure how to upload the pics?

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#3261267 - 06/04/13 10:47 AM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: Mr. Hawk]
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If the grass is too high for spraying, mow high wait 2 weeks then spray
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#3261290 - 06/04/13 11:13 AM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: A.Hall]
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What ahall said. Also next time u do clover it does much better for me to plant in fall. I always roundup the area 2 weeks before planting and it makes a world of difference for weeds.
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#3261293 - 06/04/13 11:21 AM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: muddyboots]
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Well it was cleared with a dozer prior to planting but i probably should have sprayed. So you think it's best to definately spray after mowing?
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#3261320 - 06/04/13 12:04 PM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: Mr. Hawk]
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Yes u need to do away with those weeds.
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#3261321 - 06/04/13 12:06 PM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: muddyboots]
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What is the best spray for clover and chicory?
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#3261359 - 06/04/13 01:08 PM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: Mr. Hawk]
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#3261395 - 06/04/13 02:10 PM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: muddyboots]
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 Originally Posted By: muddyboots
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Yep, what he said
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#3261444 - 06/04/13 03:41 PM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: A.Hall]
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And don't forget the crop oil to mix with it.
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#3261491 - 06/04/13 04:52 PM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: memfuzz]
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Crop oil?
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#3261493 - 06/04/13 04:57 PM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: Mr. Hawk]
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It helps the Clethodim stick to the leaves. It's not expensive
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#3261495 - 06/04/13 05:00 PM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: Mr. Hawk]
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Or Dawn dish washing liquid. A surfactant will help the herbicide adhere to the plant.
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#3261496 - 06/04/13 05:01 PM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: Boll Weevil]
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Can I spray right after mowing or must I wait?
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#3261498 - 06/04/13 05:05 PM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: Mr. Hawk]
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No need to wait...you should get a good kill either way if your mix is hot enough. I've done it both ways with good success.
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#3261499 - 06/04/13 05:05 PM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: Mr. Hawk]
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I would give it a week of new growth. The grass will readily take up the chemical then. Mowing will actually cause shut the plant down for a few days from the mowing, which the plant sees as an injury.
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#3261506 - 06/04/13 05:14 PM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: memfuzz]
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also need 2-4-D-B + surfactant for the broadleaf. Make sure you get the "B" as regular 24D will whack the clover too!
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#3261508 - 06/04/13 05:20 PM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: tellico4x4]
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Yes, clethodim will do nothing to broadleaves, only grasses. If you have both types I would suggest two separate applications also.
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#3261511 - 06/04/13 05:25 PM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: memfuzz]
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Could you tell what type of weeds I have from the pics? So I need to put down clethodim and 2-4-d-b plus surfactant? Can that be mixed? Can I get at co-op?
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#3261517 - 06/04/13 05:30 PM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: Mr. Hawk]
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Don't need mix the two. I would start out with Clethodim from your local co-op
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#3261752 - 06/05/13 05:01 AM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: A.Hall]
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If its grasses, spray clethodim. If its broadleafs then you must make a decision. Mowing may keep broadleafs under control well enough and mowing will not wipe out your chicory. If you spray 24DB on a clover/chicory mix, your chicory will get killed. There are options that wont kill your chicory, like Raptor, but its 500 plus dollars a gallon. You only use 4-6 ounces per acre but still dang.
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#3261808 - 06/05/13 06:49 AM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: smstone22]
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Will clethodim kill chicory?
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#3261830 - 06/05/13 07:44 AM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: Mr. Hawk]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr. Hawk
Will clethodim kill chicory?


No, clethodim is a grass killer.
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#3262068 - 06/05/13 02:02 PM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: smstone22]
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Yeah, chicory being basically a broadleaf weed is a problem I've had repeatedly with my Alfa Rack field (Whitetail Institute product). I reseed lightly every year and get some chicory as it is about 10% of the mix - then get a new crop of broadleaf weeds and have to spray and there goes my chicory.
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#3264064 - 06/08/13 05:04 PM Re: Need quick help regarding weeds new clover plot [Re: Hunter 257W]
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Someone told me I shouldn't spray since the plot is only a couple months old that it would hurt the clover
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