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#3256794 - 05/28/13 10:36 PM turkey meeting in loretto
wlf89
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what did they have to say?
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#3256831 - 05/29/13 01:13 AM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: wlf89]
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wondering as well
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#3256841 - 05/29/13 03:04 AM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: redblood]
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Mainly talked about the decline county wide, statewide and other states. Discussed zones for turkey seasons habitat management. They have joined a 15 state program that the university of Georgia is studying, all with massive declines.

Gave us all survey forms because they seem very intrigued about the turkeys being obsolete South of 64 highway.
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#3256946 - 05/29/13 07:56 AM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: Rockhound]
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so they dont have no clue as to what the problem is?
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#3257092 - 05/29/13 10:35 AM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: wlf89]
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Not really no
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#3257178 - 05/29/13 12:57 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: CAMARO12
Did they seem concerned??


Yes, there were a couple biologists there, the state vet and another from USDA, and some one from Geogia too. The harvests have really dropped off in all three counties since the 2006 implementation of the 4 bird limit. Why after 7 years of falling harvests that have not knocked the limit down some I do not know. They really do not have a clue and are asking us all to help with brood surveys this year. Also are going to set up locations of check stations in all three counties and man them so they can monitor the birds coming in from North and South of 64. They realize there is a huge problem and know that something has happened south of 64, but do not know. The biologist seemed pretty concerned with everyone talking about having 300 bird winter flocks and now having none on their places which was the major complaint I think.
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#3257211 - 05/29/13 01:53 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: YEKRUT]
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 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
 Originally Posted By: CAMARO12
Did they seem concerned??


Yes, there were a couple biologists there, the state vet and another from USDA, and some one from Geogia too. The harvests have really dropped off in all three counties since the 2006 implementation of the 4 bird limit. Why after 7 years of falling harvests that have not knocked the limit down some I do not know. They really do not have a clue and are asking us all to help with brood surveys this year. Also are going to set up locations of check stations in all three counties and man them so they can monitor the birds coming in from North and South of 64. They realize there is a huge problem and know that something has happened south of 64, but do not know. The biologist seemed pretty concerned with everyone talking about having 300 bird winter flocks and now having none on their places which was the major complaint I think.


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Thanks Yekrut I didn't want to get lengthy as I am posting from my phone, yes they are very concerned and they are dead set on fixing the problem. The way the main speaker talked they are working on turkey season based on these 3 counties. I dont think they had a clue about the 64 highway deal until they started mingling with thecrowd and I think that was a big eye opener for them. I think we will see the state zoned spring after next. They asked our opinions and were very willing to listen. They want our help, resources and manpower as well.

And for those that care I think the hunters got their point across about the horse riders at laurel hill.

And remember Yekrut, the Jakes were better because they breed more \:D
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#3257217 - 05/29/13 01:56 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: CAMARO12
Did they address the chicken manure topic??


Yes but according to them it was very unlikely the cause, but still a possibility. almost everything was discussed from chicken litter to armadillos to eagles
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#3257260 - 05/29/13 02:47 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: Rockhound]
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 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
 Originally Posted By: CAMARO12
Did they address the chicken manure topic??


Yes but according to them it was very unlikely the cause, but still a possibility. almost everything was discussed from chicken litter to armadillos to eagles


and fire ants, predators, nesting cover, quail, horse riders, and some more I am forgetting I am sure.

Good to meet you lastnight, it was good to put a name with a big ole mellon head. \:\)
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#3257298 - 05/29/13 03:37 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: Rockhound]
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Well, some seemed to think there wasn't a problem. Glad to see its being addressed. As it progresses, many will see its more statewide than many realize.I made a statement a while back that we would see some changes, I had already gotten word that TWRA was aware of some problems. Thanks to you guys for representing us.
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#3257302 - 05/29/13 03:51 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: tickweed]
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Thanks for the update and representing us so well. Wish I could have been there.
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#3257350 - 05/29/13 04:32 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: Rockhound]
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The way the main speaker talked they are working on turkey season based on these 3 counties.


so you are saying it seemed that they are thinking or at least considering, basing the entire states turkey season bag limits off of what is happening in 3 counties vs. just setting up zones and decreasing the limits in certain areas?

If so that may be the dumbest idea I've heard in a while. JMO
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#3257560 - 05/29/13 09:06 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: Bone Collector]
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 Originally Posted By: Bone Collector
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The way the main speaker talked they are working on turkey season based on these 3 counties.


so you are saying it seemed that they are thinking or at least considering, basing the entire states turkey season bag limits off of what is happening in 3 counties vs. just setting up zones and decreasing the limits in certain areas?

If so that may be the dumbest idea I've heard in a while. JMO


No, and yes at the same time. They said that alot of people have wanted to go to 2 birds/ yr because of these counties but they have argued against it. They said they talked about moving seasons, zoning the state and other things
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#3257561 - 05/29/13 09:07 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: YEKRUT]
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 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
 Originally Posted By: CAMARO12
Did they address the chicken manure topic??


Yes but according to them it was very unlikely the cause, but still a possibility. almost everything was discussed from chicken litter to armadillos to eagles


and fire ants, predators, nesting cover, quail, horse riders, and some more I am forgetting I am sure.

Good to meet you lastnight, it was good to put a name with a big ole mellon head. \:\)


Look who's talking \:\)
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#3257591 - 05/29/13 09:54 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: Rockhound]
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sounds like a quick fix. drop the spring limit to 2 or 3 and get lower the fall quota
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#3258492 - 05/31/13 08:31 AM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
sounds like a quick fix. drop the spring limit to 2 or 3 and get lower the fall quota




That would be a great idea if killing the birds were the problem. No one in my area is killing more that two anyway, so i think the problem runs deeper than that. I could not tell you the last time i seen a poult.
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#3258497 - 05/31/13 08:35 AM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: elkman]
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Zones....who'da thunk it LOL Glad to hear they are hopefully going to do something.
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#3258526 - 05/31/13 09:10 AM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: smstone22]
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There definitely is a "core" problem but until whatever that problem is, is fixed, everything is a problem. Predators, hunting, and such.

I really wish we could get locals to trap, especially coons. I had 3 cams running this winter one got up to 8 coons a night, one got 6 and one got 5. These were a mile apart, it wouldn't do alot but it would help. I'm gonna wear em out this fall
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#3258625 - 05/31/13 11:31 AM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: Rockhound]
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ANY legal predator to turkey population is a good target
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#3261565 - 06/04/13 06:55 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: smstone22]
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 Originally Posted By: smstone22
Zones....who'da thunk it LOL Glad to hear they are hopefully going to do something.
x1000!!!!
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#3265454 - 06/10/13 05:02 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: timberjack86]
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Did they mention any follow-up meetings or how they might keep us informed of any new information?
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#3265642 - 06/10/13 08:53 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: Jarred525]
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Naw
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#3394183 - 10/08/13 08:54 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: Rockhound]
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Any new news lately?
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#3578654 - 02/07/14 09:42 AM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: Jarred525]
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 Originally Posted By: Jarred525
Any new news lately?

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#3579034 - 02/07/14 02:28 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: Jarred525]
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They ain't doing nothing as of yet
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#3579122 - 02/07/14 03:35 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: Rockhound]
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 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
There definitely is a "core" problem but until whatever that problem is, is fixed, everything is a problem. Predators, hunting, and such.

I really wish we could get locals to trap, especially coons. I had 3 cams running this winter one got up to 8 coons a night, one got 6 and one got 5. These were a mile apart, it wouldn't do alot but it would help. I'm gonna wear em out this fall



Rockhound I can fix the coon problem for you.

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#3579142 - 02/07/14 04:07 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: ZachMarkus]
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I kill alot of them myself
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#3579143 - 02/07/14 04:08 PM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: ZachMarkus]
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 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
There definitely is a "core" problem but until whatever that problem is, is fixed, everything is a problem. Predators, hunting, and such.

I really wish we could get locals to trap, especially coons. I had 3 cams running this winter one got up to 8 coons a night, one got 6 and one got 5. These were a mile apart, it wouldn't do alot but it would help. I'm gonna wear em out this fall


But your welcome to go


Rockhound I can fix the coon problem for you.
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#3579804 - 02/08/14 06:21 AM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: Rockhound]
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Do you coon hunt or do you trap them?
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#3579806 - 02/08/14 06:23 AM Re: turkey meeting in loretto [Re: ZachMarkus]
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I trap, but my uncle, brother and his father in law hunt
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