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#3317380 - 08/09/13 04:02 PM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: BSK]
WMAn
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What about September?
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#3317386 - 08/09/13 04:13 PM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: WMAn]
Shadhood
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My cams r showing the best antlers I've ever had on bucks this year this cool, wet summer we have had was not only excellent for the growing season but also the crops n fruit-mast tree. If this weather pattern we could have some excellent cold weather hunting conditions this fall
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#3317482 - 08/09/13 05:52 PM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: Shadhood]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: Shadhood
If this weather pattern we could have some excellent cold weather hunting conditions this fall

? Curious as to what you mean by this ?
P.S. I'm a little slow. \:\)

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#3317706 - 08/09/13 09:28 PM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: WMAn]
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 Originally Posted By: WMAn
What about September?


Haven't seen a detailed forecast for the fall yet.
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#3317923 - 08/10/13 07:50 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: BSK]
Wes Parrish
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Even if September's rainfall is a little below average, I believe the deep ground moisture ups the ante to more like average or above. If you're planting plots, main thing may be to get a little rain on them soon after planting.
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#3317928 - 08/10/13 07:55 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: Wes Parrish]
Wes Parrish
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New Question Regarding Antler Growing Conditions:

If the conditions are so good this year that bucks grows larger than normal antlers, will there be some antler "memory" which augments next year's antler growth?

In other words, if conditions are very good this year, causing larger than average antlers per age class, will this also help to grow larger antlers next year, even if next year's conditions are average?

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#3317936 - 08/10/13 08:03 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
New Question Regarding Antler Growing Conditions:

If the conditions are so good this year that bucks grows larger than normal antlers, will there be some antler "memory" which augments next year's antler growth?

In other words, if conditions are very good this year, causing larger than average antlers per age class, will this also help to grow larger antlers next year, even if next year's conditions are average?


Good question Wes, need a BSK answer?
But when I was elk hunting a good bit, always the same
outfitter,they would worry about "finishing out" with growth
a wet year didn't mean much if the next was dry
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#3318022 - 08/10/13 09:51 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: landman]
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I've seen no research on that topic. In fact, much about antler growth is unknown.
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#3318025 - 08/10/13 09:53 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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I'm a tad disappointed with what I'm seeing on trail-camera in my area so far. Bucks' antlers are below average for their age.
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#3318073 - 08/10/13 10:33 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: BSK]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
I'm a tad disappointed with what I'm seeing on trail-camera in my area so far. Bucks' antlers are below average for their age.

Simple explanation for that: You shoot your best antlered young bucks! \:D
Leaving only the smaller antlered ones as survivors!
And your neighbors probably do this as well, particularly way-laying those top-end yearlings. Even the largest button bucks get killed at a higher rate because they are more easily mistaken for an adult doe. This is one pitfall of too much enthusiasm for high doe harvests: More of the earlier born (larger, with a "head start" on growing antlers) buttons get killed by hunters mistaking them for an adult doe.

Seriously, you may now be experiencing more of what I've been talking about for years, the result of a rapid shift in hunters using antler restrictions, such as "4 on a side", where they're wiping out more of their best yearlings and best 2 1/2's than they would had they been using no antler restrictions at all.

Add to this the past couple years being above average for antler growth, and the result may have been more yearling bucks meeting basic antler restriction criteria such as "4 on a side", significantly reducing this year's crop of 2 1/2's with above average antler genetics?

I'm reserving judgment on this year's antler growth results until the end of this month, after which have reviewed the more "finished out" results.

And for whatever reason, it seems we get a little more rainfall in Stewart Co than you do in Humphreys. Today's but the latest example. I suspect a little more "lake effect".

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