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#3318090 - 08/10/13 10:45 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: BSK
I'm a tad disappointed with what I'm seeing on trail-camera in my area so far. Bucks' antlers are below average for their age.

Simple explanation for that: You shoot your best antlered young bucks! \:D
Leaving only the smaller antlered ones as survivors!
And your neighbors probably do this as well, particularly way-laying those top-end yearlings. Even the largest button bucks get killed at a higher rate because they are more easily mistaken for an adult doe. This is one pitfall of too much enthusiasm for high doe harvests: More of the earlier born (larger, with a "head start" on growing antlers) buttons get killed by hunters mistaking them for an adult doe.

Seriously, you may now be experiencing more of what I've been talking about for years, the result of a rapid shift in hunters using antler restrictions, such as "4 on a side", where they're wiping out more of their best yearlings and best 2 1/2's than they would had they been using no antler restrictions at all.

I'm reserving judgment on this year's antler growth results until the end of this month, after which have reviewed the more "finished out" results.

And for whatever reason, it seems we get a little more rainfall in Stewart Co than you do in Humphreys. Today's but the latest example. I suspect a little more "lake effect".


Wes, too much rain too fast, Big Rock & Bumpus Mills got 2.5" in 30 minutes Thursday
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#3318094 - 08/10/13 10:48 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: landman]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: landman
Wes, too much rain too fast, Big Rock & Bumpus Mills got 2.5" in 30 minutes Thursday

Still doesn't flood or harm as bad as it does like what we had back in April before there was enough plant growth to slow down the flooding. But I agree, too much too fast has happened several times this year. Little closer to Dover, we've already had over 2 inches just in the past 24 hours today! Still raining, and looks like quite a bit more coming over the next few hours.

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#3318101 - 08/10/13 10:52 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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This would be average scores including the effect of high-grading. There have been no major changes in harvest pressure or who is hunting the surrounding area (and their harvest criteria). In addition, my area sees a very low buck harvest (only a small percentage of available bucks harvested each year).

With the average 3 1/2 only grossing 105-110 in my area, I'm seeing 3 1/2s this year only scoring 95-100.
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#3318104 - 08/10/13 10:56 AM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: BSK]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
With the average 3 1/2 only grossing 105-110 in my area, I'm seeing 3 1/2s this year only scoring 95-100.

But do you have enough data (so far this year) for those results to be meaningful? Some bucks are still "finishing out", and another inch or two's length on G-3's, G-4's, and main beams can easily add 5 to 10 inches to the final score.

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#3318181 - 08/10/13 12:24 PM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: BSK
With the average 3 1/2 only grossing 105-110 in my area, I'm seeing 3 1/2s this year only scoring 95-100.

But do you have enough data (so far this year) for those results to be meaningful?


Nope, not yet. I was just hoping beyond hope to see some whoppers this year! of course, the bottomland bucks won't show up on my place for another month or so. Those are our rare top-end bucks.
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#3318220 - 08/10/13 01:17 PM Re: This Year's Antler Growing Conditions, BSK? [Re: BSK]
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And by the way, as of my last camera pull (yesterday) half of the bucks are done growing or nearly so. Although I did get two bucks traveling together that definitely had more growing to do.

Amazes me how much difference there is in individual buck antler growth timing. Some clearly done, some not close yet.
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