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#3250912 - 05/20/13 09:16 AM Red Dot for 30-30
TN Larry
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I am rigging my 30-30 up for my son to take on the juvenile this year. I am going to put a youth stock on it and let him shoot managed recoil loads. I really want him to kill his first deer with the same gun that I did and let the tradition be passed down.

I am probably going to put a red dot on it for him. I expect the shots to be close and think that it will be easier for him to find the target in a red dot scope versus a regular powered scope. He has shot a 223 with a red dot with good results.

Can anyone recommend a good one that would go on a 30-30 and not break the bank? I would also like to have one that I can use my same mounts that I have on it now.
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#3250937 - 05/20/13 09:54 AM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: TN Larry]
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What mounts are on it now? Should be able to find one that will mount to a Weaver style base fairly easily...
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#3250951 - 05/20/13 10:10 AM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: Rubberduck270]
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The ones I have came with their own mounts.. but I wouldnt recommend one for anyone.. to make a long story short, I put one on a rifle for my daughter .. target practice was great, but opening morning.. a deer steps out not far from us.. I tell her to shoot.. she never does..i keep telling her to shoot..she never does.. finally the deer walked off.. she said she couldnt see the dot..I grabbed the gun.. sure enough.. the sun was coming up behind us and the dot was completely missing no matter the power setting.. I jerked that crap off and put on a fixed 4 power scope and she got one that afternoon...
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#3250985 - 05/20/13 10:41 AM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: pressfit]
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...or just use the open sights, if you plan on close contact shooting. ;\) My 9yr old daughter prefers open sights, so she says. \:\)
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#3251064 - 05/20/13 12:33 PM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: MUP]
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It has weaver style bases on it now.
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#3251086 - 05/20/13 01:06 PM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: TN Larry]
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Ah, I see. No iron sights at all then?
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#3251183 - 05/20/13 02:53 PM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: MUP]
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 Originally Posted By: MUP
Ah, I see. No iron sights at all then?


No, I actually took them off to put a scope mounted tight to the barrel a few years ago. I shouldn't have did it this way, but let's just say that they can't be put back on. \:\) He might be okay with the scope that is on it set on "3" but still leaning towards a red dot where eye relief shouldn't be as much of an issue.
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#3251317 - 05/20/13 06:40 PM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: TN Larry]
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fixed 4x scope will do him right IMO

i would not put a red dot on it personally
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#3251562 - 05/20/13 10:21 PM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: Deer Assassin]
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 Originally Posted By: Deer Assassin
fixed 4x scope will do him right IMO

i would not put a red dot on it personally



This.
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#3251664 - 05/21/13 06:24 AM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: TN Larry]
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TN Larry,
Go to Optics Planet webb. The best deals on all types of scopes. I suggest the AimPoint 9000SC Red Dot. This is one rugged scope with loooooooong battery life. The $$$ have come down a long way in the past 5 years, have two on large bore handguns. Eye relief is no issue and very bright (adjustable) dot. They come with rings as well. Good luck.
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#3251668 - 05/21/13 06:43 AM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: AllOutdoors]
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 Originally Posted By: AllOutdoors
 Originally Posted By: Deer Assassin
fixed 4x scope will do him right IMO

i would not put a red dot on it personally

This.

I do think a low-power fixed scope is generally a better way to go with a young novice hunter, and even better if you can go with less than 4x magnification. A traditional scope, even at 1.5x magnification provides a much clearer view, particularly of the background, than any red dot, and there are no brightness, no battery issues with a traditional scope.

The problem with a variable scope is that most less experienced hunters tend to use it with too much magnification, causing them to "not be able to find" in their scope that deer that suddenly gives them an otherwise easy shot at close range. A 2-7x variable would be great if locked in on 2x (very wide field of view). However, most 3-9x variables have little more field of view at 3x than most 4x fixed scopes.

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#3251689 - 05/21/13 07:29 AM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: Wes Parrish]
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If you're dead set on a red dot ropintime had one in the classifieds last week. Believe it was a tru glo for $40.

Edited by Gravey (05/21/13 07:31 AM)
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#3253295 - 05/23/13 07:47 AM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: Gravey]
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How do you think a 2x7 or 1x4 power scope set on the lowest setting would work compared to a red dot? I need to find one to look though but might be the best of both worlds. I just want to make sure that he has enough eye relief to find the target in the scope. I do plan getting him a 22 rifle within the next month and let him start practicing so with a little practice, maybe a 2x7 scope would be the best of both worlds???

Thoughts???

I have the same reservations about the red dot, batteries, brightness, etc but just want to make sure that he doesn't panic and can't acquire the target.
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#3253387 - 05/23/13 09:42 AM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: TN Larry]
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 Originally Posted By: TN Larry
How do you think a 2x7 or 1x4 power scope set on the lowest setting would work compared to a red dot?

I think they work great. Field of view should be more than adequate, and in the case of a 1x or 1.5x, very close to a red dot. The only minor issue I see is that eye relief distance isn't as forgiving with a traditional scope.

Other than the eye relief issue, I see mostly more positives with the traditional scope: Can see more detail of the target, more detail in background, more detail in low light, no concerns of battery failure. I also believe traditional scopes are "tougher" and less prone to be damaged or broken while hunting.

Both the Leupold II 2-7x33 and the Burris Fullfield II 2-7x35 have longer eye reliefs than most traditional scopes. While these will typically cost a little more than most red dots, these particular traditional scopes are made to last for a lifetime of value.

IMO, for most hunters and most TN deer hunting, the 2-7x is more ideal than the more popular 3-9x and higher magnification scopes many hunters are using.

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#3253478 - 05/23/13 11:22 AM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: Wes Parrish]
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I have a Bushnell Banner 1.5x4.5x32 on my 336y. I was thinking about a red dot too, but I am glad i went with the low power scope. Set on 1.5 all you have to do is shoulder the gun and your target is in the scope. you can even shoot with both eyes open. Just dial it up to 4.5x which still isnt much if you need to.

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#3253561 - 05/23/13 01:34 PM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish

IMO, for most hunters and most TN deer hunting, the 2-7x is more ideal than the more popular 3-9x and higher magnification scopes many hunters are using.


That is kind of the path that I was thinking. It has an okay scope on it now, but I could put a little better 2x7 on it which would still be plenty for me if I ever decide to use it again plus last him until he graduates to a bigger gun.

I think that is what I will do. Thanks for the input!

After a new scope, new youth stock, and kick pad, I am going to have a fortune in a gun that I already have. \:\) I wouldn't want it different though as I am determined for him to kill his first deer with the same gun that I did. I have a first cousin where his Dad, him, and his son all killed their first deer with the same gun.
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#3253581 - 05/23/13 02:31 PM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: TN Larry]
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#3253606 - 05/23/13 03:14 PM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Now that you made up your mind, you better find some managed recoil loads!
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#3253639 - 05/23/13 04:32 PM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: Tenn.Guy]
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 Originally Posted By: Tenn.Guy
Now that you made up your mind, you better find some managed recoil loads!


Been looking but can't find any right now.
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#3254359 - 05/24/13 04:15 PM Re: Red Dot for 30-30 [Re: Frank G]
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Mueller Holographic sights hold up well and are easy to use. I have on 30-30 and shotgun. I really like the dot out to 75 yards. It does require a one piece scope base Weaver style. The only disadvantage is the large dot makes precise shooting difficult and long ranges.
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