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#3249041 - 05/17/13 06:42 PM Re: TWRA REPORTS TURKEY NUMBERS REMAIN STABLE [Re: Spurhunter]
Vermin93
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 Originally Posted By: Spurhunter
Imagine that! Who cares what the potential is! As long as we are above 30000 birds every year we are A OK!

That's ok. We are already planning our Maury County hunts next year. See yall there!


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#3249053 - 05/17/13 07:19 PM Re: TWRA REPORTS TURKEY NUMBERS REMAIN STABLE [Re: Vermin93]
ImThere
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Aint no birds in Maury! Cat done killed them all! ;\)
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#3249084 - 05/17/13 07:51 PM Re: TWRA REPORTS TURKEY NUMBERS REMAIN STABLE [Re: Vermin93]
timberjack86
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 Originally Posted By: Vermin93
 Originally Posted By: Spurhunter
Imagine that! Who cares what the potential is! As long as we are above 30000 birds every year we are A OK!

That's ok. We are already planning our Maury County hunts next year. See yall there!


Party at catman's place next April! I call dibs on the couch!
In before cat say's there are no birds in Maury county


Edited by timberjack86 (05/17/13 07:52 PM)
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#3249247 - 05/18/13 04:10 AM Re: TWRA REPORTS TURKEY NUMBERS REMAIN STABLE [Re: timberjack86]
smstone22
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When I look at 2012 vs 2013 county harvest, I get 56 counties harvest down over last year and 39 counties harvest up. Just a simple up or down look, havent done any more than that.
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#3249258 - 05/18/13 05:53 AM Re: TWRA REPORTS TURKEY NUMBERS REMAIN STABLE [Re: smstone22]
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#3249365 - 05/18/13 09:03 AM Re: TWRA REPORTS TURKEY NUMBERS REMAIN STABLE [Re: Lawrence]
Wes Parrish
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"Statewide", TWRA is correct in that the turkey numbers remain stable. In fact, "statewide" the turkey outlook may have never been better, since there are more and more turkeys showing up in places which didn't have any turkeys a few years ago.

But that doesn't mean, nor did TWRA say it did, that turkey numbers are stable in every county nor every part of every county.

I think there could be some "tweaking" of the regs which could place things on a better track, but have to agree with many that most of what happens to the ongoing turkey population has to do with factors little effected by our current statewide hunting regs.

Note how so many hunters are excited about Maury County? Why? Did TWRA do anything different there? On the other hand, with more hunters planning to hunt there, with the fall hen season & 4-Tom spring limit . . . . . . . .

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#3249369 - 05/18/13 09:15 AM Re: TWRA REPORTS TURKEY NUMBERS REMAIN STABLE [Re: Wes Parrish]
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12-15 years ago it was quite a sight to see turkeys in good size groups in my little area. Now they are everywhere and I'm not complaining. Could habitat changes be the reason for the decline in some areas and increase in numbers in others? Now, for you southern county hunters: Is it smaller flocks you're seeing or have the turkeys left your areas and moved down he road?
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#3249485 - 05/18/13 01:44 PM Re: TWRA REPORTS TURKEY NUMBERS REMAIN STABLE [Re: Food Plot 101]
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 Originally Posted By: Food Plot 101
12-15 years ago it was quite a sight to see turkeys in good size groups in my little area. Now they are everywhere and I'm not complaining. Could habitat changes be the reason for the decline in some areas and increase in numbers in others? Now, for you southern county hunters: Is it smaller flocks you're seeing or have the turkeys left your areas and moved down he road?


Used too in the fall i would see flocks of 100ish birds go to roost in the evenings. It was an awesome sight. Now maybe 20 at the most.
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#3249490 - 05/18/13 02:01 PM Re: TWRA REPORTS TURKEY NUMBERS REMAIN STABLE [Re: muddyboots]
Wes Parrish
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Just a little something else to thing about . . . . . .

When the turkeys started quickly expanding into areas which had been previously void of turkeys, most predators were neither experienced nor proficient at preying on turkeys.

But as the turkey populations have increased, I believe they (and their eggs) have become a more viable food source for a variety of predators, which have also increased in number.

What I'm saying is, from a predation standpoint, there is more going against turkey survival today than a couple decades ago. Among my personal observations are seeing more mostly nocturnal predators targeting turkeys during the day, including owls, coyotes, and bobcats. I've particularly noticed owls preying on young turkeys. Would add a huge increase in hawks as well, although they're daytime predators. IMO, hawks are getting a good bit more of their annual diet from turkey poults than in times past, and the number of hawks has increased exponentially over the past few decades.

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#3249511 - 05/18/13 02:24 PM Re: TWRA REPORTS TURKEY NUMBERS REMAIN STABLE [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
"Statewide", TWRA is correct in that the turkey numbers remain stable. In fact, "statewide" the turkey outlook may have never been better, since there are more and more turkeys showing up in places which didn't have any turkeys a few years ago.

But that doesn't mean, nor did TWRA say it did, that turkey numbers are stable in every county nor every part of every county.

I think there could be some "tweaking" of the regs which could place things on a better track, but have to agree with many that most of what happens to the ongoing turkey population has to do with factors little effected by our current statewide hunting regs.

Note how so many hunters are excited about Maury County? Why? Did TWRA do anything different there? On the other hand, with more hunters planning to hunt there, with the fall hen season & 4-Tom spring limit . . . . . . . .
There are predators in Maury County, Wes, and their turkey numbers are skyrocketing. What's up with that?

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