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#3246248 - 05/14/13 01:07 PM Re: Numbers droping ? [Re: woodsman87]
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Woodsman87, you can share my campfire anytime. It is refreshing to hear someone that actually researches facts and truths before spouting off opinions. Everything you have said here is spot on and agrees with the research of the best turkey biologists on the planet. Some people either know more than those biologists, or are so bloodthirsty they choose to ignore facts.

Seriously, poults? Who in their right mind would shoot a poult? Everyday I read something else that amazes me.
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#3246249 - 05/14/13 01:09 PM Re: Numbers droping ? [Re: woodsman87]
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 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
Hopefully not, but One day Maury county will probably be down like its southern neighbors. Too much hen killing, but more importantly, too much positive press on the internet. I have never hunted Maury or Marshall, but after reading how good it is I am thinking about going up there next year, and so does everybody else around here.


Here too. My bunch is already planning a trip for early spring season as well as many other guys I know. Kamikaze longbeards seemingly behind every tree will make a man drive 3 hours!
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#3246250 - 05/14/13 01:10 PM Re: Numbers droping ? [Re: woodsman87]
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Shoot hens in the fall if you want. I just wish TWRA, if possible, could regulate more about what areas can withstand a little hen shooting. If possible to research, every year and every county or unit should be different. Right now I believe my spots should have zero hen killing. Maybe ten years from now it will look like Maury Co. and be able to take some hen hunting. Maury then might be like the southern most counties and have about 1 gobbler and 7 hens per 2,000 acres like it is around here.
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#3246261 - 05/14/13 01:16 PM Re: Numbers droping ? [Re: Spurhunter]
woodsman87
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 Originally Posted By: Spurhunter
Woodsman87, you can share my campfire anytime. It is refreshing to hear someone that actually researches facts and truths before spouting off opinions. Everything you have said here is spot on and agrees with the research of the best turkey biologists on the planet. Some people either know more than those biologists, or are so bloodthirsty they choose to ignore facts.

Seriously, poults? Who in their right mind would shoot a poult? Everyday I read something else that amazes me.


I am just passionate about the wild turkey. I may sound contradicting, but I like to kill gobblers as much as I like to see them live! and that is why I like them to thrive, because I like to hunt them. I think you would agree with me, you had some on the ball post as well.

About poult shooting, I may have exagerated there, not sure when they are quit being called poults, but I know during the fall shotgun season most of the so called "hens" people kill are nothing more than poults. They are inbetween 4-6 months old, and look like a wild turkey, but then again still have some of the poult characteristics. You can hardly tell jakes from hens. And these turkeys weigh like 8-10 lbs. Not hardly worth shooting and eating when you can kill a 20 lb longbeard in the fall too, and it is much much much more challenging.

Fall turkey hunting for hens poults is about as easy as squirrel hunting.
Hunting Longbeards during the fall is a little more tough.



Edited by woodsman87 (05/14/13 01:17 PM)

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#3246270 - 05/14/13 01:20 PM Re: Numbers droping ? [Re: woodsman87]
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Another thing, I aint got one negative thing to say about fall turkey hunting except that you can shoot hens and poults. Maybe if we would quit shooting the hens and poults, some turkey hunters may have more longbeards to hunt during the spring, or if ones desire like myself, to hunt longbeards during the fall.

I am a turkey conservationist and a turkey hunter. I hunt longbearded gobblers during the spring and fall. I do not shoot hens. I deer hunt so that I can watch turkeys.

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#3246287 - 05/14/13 01:34 PM Re: Numbers droping ? [Re: woodsman87]
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Here is some info on the TN fall turkey harvest.

http://www.tn.gov/twra/pdfs/fallturkeyreport.pdf
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#3246298 - 05/14/13 01:47 PM Re: Numbers droping ? [Re: catman529]
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Anyone have contact information for the appropriate person (Wild Turkey Program Coordinator) to connect with in West TN?
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#3246300 - 05/14/13 01:47 PM Re: Numbers droping ? [Re: catman529]
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Catman,
That is all the info anybody needs. The population is declining in most areas, so why would we want to keep shooting hens? Even in the population increase areas? You know that it aint going to increase for eternity?
Let me say this again, hen shooting aint the sole purpose in it. But it is a factor that we can control, why not fix it? Why not make it illegal since hen turkeys and poults already have a hard enough time living anyways?
I suggest hunters slack off on the hen shooting while the getting is still good and before it gets bad. Doesn't everyone enjoy hunting longbeards in the spring?
Since there are only 2 poults per hen, wouldn't we need every hen to live and raise her two poults?

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#3246302 - 05/14/13 01:49 PM Re: Numbers droping ? [Re: catman529]
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Just a few thoughts to ponder.

 Originally Posted By: catman529
If you don't want to kill hens then don't kill them.

How do you distinguish male from female turkeys during the fall?

If you had the choice, would you rather call up a gobbling, strutting longbeard, or simply shoot one walking by or feeding (one that is not gobbling or strutting)?

 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
171 turkeys were reported last fall season in Maury County, more than some counties spring seasons. 103 of those were hens.

Killing mostly hens during the fall turkey season is not isolated to just Maury County. STATEWIDE, (TWRA data 09/01/2012 thru 12/31/2012) there were 935 male turkeys "checked in" and 1,676 hens "checked in".

It would appear that "fall turkey" hunters kill MOSTLY HENS.

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#3246305 - 05/14/13 01:55 PM Re: Numbers droping ? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Its hard to tell them 5 month old birds apart. Sometimes the jakes will already be a little bigger, and their breast feathers will be darker, and hed a little more red.
I also like shooting them when they gobble and strut, not walking by eating acorns or clovers. So much easier to ambush them during the fall.

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