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#3241821 - 05/08/13 05:31 AM Re: TWRA wants to start mining and drilling our land [Re: dr]
BlountArrow
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 Originally Posted By: dr
...When the strip mine was operating, dump trucks ran up and down that narrow mountain road, barely wide enough for two vehicles to pass. And, all the homes and vehicles stayed covered in white dust. There was also quite a bit of blasting that reportedly damaged peoples homes.
...They estimated that more than 200 dump trucks a day would run up and down the road seven days a week, eight hours a day, for at least 5 years.
...I don't believe too many people would be in favor of this if they had to hear and see those 200 trucks going by their house every day.


^I thought this beared repeating^.

My in-laws live in SW Pennsylvania where there is a ton of mining. All day, there are huge semi tankers running up and down the road hauling 1000s of gallons of water for fracking (hope that is spelled right - don't know much about the process itself). Day and night, while your kids are playing in the yard, or while you're sleeping, or while you're babies or kids are trying to sleep, and it is less than a 100 yards from the front door. Sound like somewhere you'd wanna live?
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#3241881 - 05/08/13 07:27 AM Re: TWRA wants to start mining and drilling our land [Re: TNhunter]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: TNhunter
Thread is too long to read in its entirety but why is the first answer to issues ALWAYS how can the government get their hands on more money. CUT SPENDING and live within the budgets. We all have to do it. Wish I could just walk in and demand more money from my employer every month or two.

We are in general agreement with these thoughts, but there is one aspect of this that many are missing:
TWRA is not your "typical" government agency.
UNLIKE nearly all the others, they are not being funded by the State's general fund. TWRA gets virtually none of any taxes you pay (which goes to all those other government agencies, many of which provide the payer of those taxes nothing, absolutely nothing).

TWRA is almost totally self-funded by hunting & fishing license sales. As I say this, TWRA is one of the few government agencies that's (currently) operating in the black, i.e. they have not and are not creating debt for our grandchildren to pay. Wouldn't it be great if all government agencies could be self-funded by those who benefit most from the entity?

TWRA has already CUT SPENDING, and has been living within their current "bare-bones" budgets, much like many of the rest of us. But just like us as individuals, sometimes our incomes get reduced, sometimes we have unexpected expenditures, and sometimes we have to find new ways to bring in more money if we expect to not go into debt.

IMO, TWRA is now simply exploring all options to increase their funding.
Isn't that what they should be doing rather than to be quick to raise license costs?

Finally, we experience "inflation" in almost all aspects of our financial lives. Things cost more over time. But when was the last time TWRA increased the costs of our hunting & fishing licenses? Adjusted for inflation, TWRA has been steadily collecting less money from us, and would need to increase licensing cost just to bring in relatively the same amount to cover their rising expenses.

So there is no way licensing costs can go down. But it would be nice if TWRA found other ways to bring in revenue, and may be able to keep licensing costs from going up as fast as inflation. Not to mention, the issue of fewer hunters & fisherman, thus fewer people will be buying hunting & fishing licenses in the future, reducing TWRA's main funding base.

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#3241962 - 05/08/13 08:37 AM Re: TWRA wants to start mining and drilling our land [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Ima be a game wardman when I grow up. BTW, y'all solved this yet or do Ineed to dosome mroe gogitatin? I got me a magazine ready.
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#3242093 - 05/08/13 10:47 AM Re: TWRA wants to start mining and drilling our land [Re: bowriter]
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Kinda got off track a little guys
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#3242094 - 05/08/13 10:55 AM Re: TWRA wants to start mining and drilling our land [Re: fredfred]
Andy S.
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Interesting article related to this subject. http://www.newschannel5.com/story/22187635/lobbyist-on-payroll-of-both-governor-special-interests
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#3242105 - 05/08/13 11:08 AM Re: TWRA wants to start mining and drilling our land [Re: Andy S.]
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I need to know more, but for now, as long as the revenue goes directly to TWRA (NOT into the state general fund!) I am all for it.

I am also in favor of timber sales on all government property. Including TWRA, TVA, U.S. Forest, and federal wildlife refuges.
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#3242111 - 05/08/13 11:21 AM Re: TWRA wants to start mining and drilling our land [Re: farmin68]
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Timber sales via select cut would benefit wildlife, hunters, and all those other folks that want to use the outdoors, some of them just don't realize how much. Just because the new growth is thick, they think it is bad, and it interferes with the ability to see through the woods looking for wildlife that has moved on to other areas.
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#3242122 - 05/08/13 11:35 AM Re: TWRA wants to start mining and drilling our land [Re: Crappie Luck]
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I havent read all the comments but is this part of what they are talking about? This has been in process for awhile now. The ut land they are talking about doing this to butts up to my lease in Morgan County.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/dec/02/ut-plans-to-drill-for-gas-on-its-land-study/
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#3242130 - 05/08/13 11:47 AM Re: TWRA wants to start mining and drilling our land [Re: Andy S.]
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 Originally Posted By: Andy S.



If you lay with dogs your bound to get flees. TWRA is gonna need a flee bath before long it looks like
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#3242177 - 05/08/13 12:54 PM Re: TWRA wants to start mining and drilling our land [Re: arctic_cat]
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 Originally Posted By: arctic_cat
I havent read all the comments but is this part of what they are talking about? This has been in process for awhile now. The ut land they are talking about doing this to butts up to my lease in Morgan County.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/dec/02/ut-plans-to-drill-for-gas-on-its-land-study/


That is UT doing that. Different deal. Right up the road from the land I own over there.
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