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#3240957 - 05/07/13 06:04 AM Which boat?
Model70Man
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I'm torn between 2 boats. They are the same price. The first one in a G3 1860 CCT with a 90hp Yamaha and the second is a Lowe Stinger 195 Camo with a 115hp Mercury ProXS. I will be using the boat for fishing the Clinch River, Bass fishing lakes, and hunting. I've read some reviews on the web and they are basically the same. Do any of you own one of these boats? Can you give me some Pro's and Con's for the boat you have. I'm trying to get as much info as I can before I buy.

Here are links to the boats:
http://www.g3boats.com/gator_tough_prop_tunnel_hulls_-_aluminum_fishing_jon_boats

http://www.loweboats.com/2013/stinger-bass-boats/stinger-st195-camo/
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#3240961 - 05/07/13 06:06 AM Re: Which boat? [Re: Model70Man]
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I would say lowe. i like mercury jmo
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#3241007 - 05/07/13 07:23 AM Re: Which boat? [Re: Lady's man]
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yamaha would be the deciding factor.
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#3241028 - 05/07/13 07:42 AM Re: Which boat? [Re: stik]
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I have a 1999 G3 it's the 17 foot one I really like it has Yamaha motor I have never had any problems with mine the only thing I would change that I should have got at least a 20 foot one.
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#3241059 - 05/07/13 08:16 AM Re: Which boat? [Re: Todd Lamb]
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If I had unlimited funds I would buy a brand new Yamaha motor for my boat.
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#3241061 - 05/07/13 08:23 AM Re: Which boat? [Re: RUGER]
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I have a 2007 lowe with 4 stroke merc.. its the 16.5 fishing machine. really like it.. no issues, nice quality built boat..
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#3241074 - 05/07/13 08:34 AM Re: Which boat? [Re: pressfit]
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I am around a variety of boats and outboard motors each week. Just talking to the owners of the boats I get the following impressions.

G3 Boats.......Their owners love them.

Lowe Boats.....Their owners like them but don't like them as much as the g3 owners love theirs.

Outboard motors.

Evinrude/Johnson......These motors are cursed daily.

Mercury...............Their owners love them but they do have issues occasionally.

Yamaha................never heard a bad word uttered about them.
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#3241108 - 05/07/13 08:56 AM Re: Which boat? [Re: Kirk]
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 Originally Posted By: Kirk
I am around a variety of boats and outboard motors each week. Just talking to the owners of the boats I get the following impressions.

G3 Boats.......Their owners love them.

Lowe Boats.....Their owners like them but don't like them as much as the g3 owners love theirs.

Outboard motors.

Evinrude/Johnson......These motors are cursed daily.

Mercury...............Their owners love them but they do have issues occasionally.

Yamaha................never heard a bad word uttered about them.

my thoughts exactly!

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#3241203 - 05/07/13 10:46 AM Re: Which boat? [Re: mathews338]
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Is the G3 going to have the 4 stroke on it? That would definitely be a pro for me even though the Optimax is a nice motor and gets super gas mileage for a 2 stroke motor. I have a 200 Optimax on my boat.

I don't see that you can go wrong either way, however, I think that I like the layout of the Lowe better. It appears to have a bigger front deck and more storage.

If the Yamaha, is a two stroke, I would pick the Lowe, if it is a four stroke, I would be split down the middle.
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#3241242 - 05/07/13 11:36 AM Re: Which boat? [Re: TN Larry]
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#3241261 - 05/07/13 11:49 AM Re: Which boat? [Re: Football Hunter]
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Its hard to say which is best....cause the boats are not comparable as they have completely different hull designs. Each will perform quite differently. Between these 2 boats it would come to one question. How much time will be spent in shallow water?? The g3 will perform much better in shallow water. I like the tunnel and pods.
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#3241319 - 05/07/13 01:06 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: Kirk]
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 Originally Posted By: Kirk
Yamaha................never heard a bad word uttered about them.



I have owned 2 yamahas. Never a problem. BUT, I know 2 guys that have blown up SHO 250's still under warranty in the last two months. Yes, they are cursing yamaha.
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#3241324 - 05/07/13 01:10 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: AllOutdoors]
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I would go with the G3. Then I would sell the lower unit on the Yamaha and slap a jet pump on it.
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#3241338 - 05/07/13 01:31 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: SES]
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I have owned a G3. I loved the boat and when I had a problem (broken welds that were common with the 1999 models) they gave me a new boat. OUTSTANDING customer service!
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#3241340 - 05/07/13 01:33 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: Football Hunter]
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Won't get anything but a Yamaha
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#3241371 - 05/07/13 02:26 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: Spoonbillmallard]
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G3/Yamaha... This is a no brainer dude!
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#3241380 - 05/07/13 02:42 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: CATCHDAWG]
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I just sold a Lowe 195 Stinger with a 90 hp Optimax a year ago. It was a great fishing boat with lots of room and well laid out, biggest downfall as with many aluminum boats was the rough ride and getting blown around in the wind!
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#3241390 - 05/07/13 03:02 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: AllOutdoors]
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 Originally Posted By: AllOutdoors
the boats are not comparable as they have completely different hull designs. Each will perform quite differently. Between these 2 boats it would come to one question. How much time will be spent in shallow water?? The g3 will perform much better in shallow water.


Right on. For me the Lowe would be perfect and the Pro XS is a screamer, but I don't fish shallow rivers.
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#3241391 - 05/07/13 03:03 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: Winchester]
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I have a 2072 G3 CC w/115 2 stroke Yamaha. I pretty much only use this boat for bowfishing. It has been used and abused. No telling how many stumps, rocks and fence posts I have hit with it. Its been a helluva boat for me. It can handle some pretty big/rough water. I originally bought it for duck hunting on the Pamlico Sound/Outer Banks of NC. If mine was to sink tomorrow, I would'nt hesitate to go out and buy another G3!!!!

My only complaint is minimal at best and basically could be applied to all boat manufacturers.. I wish tandem axle trailers were standard on 2072 size boats. No biggie, I put a tandem under it last year.


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#3241430 - 05/07/13 03:42 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: SES]
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 Originally Posted By: SES
I would go with the G3. Then I would sell the lower unit on the Yamaha and slap a jet pump on it.


I like how you think! However a jet pump on that boat wouldn't perform good, if at all. The CCT is a deep tunnel for prop boats. The CCJ has a much shallower tunnel designed for a jet.
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#3241540 - 05/07/13 06:04 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: CATCHDAWG]
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 Originally Posted By: CATCHDAWG
G3/Yamaha... This is a no brainer dude!
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#3241554 - 05/07/13 06:19 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: AllOutdoors]
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I currently have a Yamaha on my small jon boat and it is freaking awesome. I would most likely opt for the Yamaha on the Lowe if it wasn't too much more. I was more interested in the boat design and how it functions for a combo river, lake, and hunting outfit. I usually fish the clinch when they generate and the water rarely is less than 2 ft deep. I see both types of boats on the clinch all the time and on the lakes as well. I was hoping to get feedback about boat design and layout and how user friendly the ergonomics of each boat campared.
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#3241559 - 05/07/13 06:28 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: Model70Man]
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 Originally Posted By: Model70Man
I currently have a Yamaha on my small jon boat and it is freaking awesome. I would most likely opt for the Yamaha on the Lowe if it wasn't too much more. I was more interested in the boat design and how it functions for a combo river, lake, and hunting outfit. I usually fish the clinch when they generate and the water rarely is less than 2 ft deep. I see both types of boats on the clinch all the time and on the lakes as well. I was hoping to get feedback about boat design and layout and how user friendly the ergonomics of each boat campared.

I think your the only one who can answer that question. I have a Grizzly and the layout is perfect for me, it's wide open down the middle wich is what I wanted. I can assure you though, the G3 is a much better built boat.
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#3241571 - 05/07/13 06:51 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: CATCHDAWG]
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look at the crestliner line of aluminums. They all aluminum and i love my vt 17
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#3241581 - 05/07/13 07:07 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: outdoorsmen22]
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I had a Lowe aluminum with an optimax. It was the HP style boat. I liked it and miss it with every rock or tree I see in my fiberglass boat now. I had the 90 HP opti and it got really good gas mileage on the 17 foot boat. I could draft pretty shallow... Around a foot I guess. The trolling motor would hit and the boat was still floating freely.

I have nothing bad to say about the build quality of the boat or the motor. Both performed flawless for me. The optimax got around 5-6 MPG at 80%. Its a different build platform than what youre looking at I know... But Lowe builds a fine boat in my opinion. I looked at the G3 boats but they were out my price range.
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#3241585 - 05/07/13 07:12 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: SilverFox]
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I can say that if Bunch Marine has the Lowe you're looking at they are a good group of guys. I bought 2 boats from them and would buy another in a heartbeat. If you're in a toss up on boats, the dealership would be the deciding factor for me. I don't thunk you can beat Bunch.
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#3241672 - 05/07/13 08:47 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: Football Hunter]
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#3241700 - 05/07/13 09:22 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: 7mm08]
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I've always had good luck on the Mercs.. Can't speak for Yammahammer

Do yourself a favor and check out the Xpress line
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#3241783 - 05/08/13 12:44 AM Re: Which boat? [Re: Football Hunter]
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We currently have a 2006 1652 SC G3 with a 40 horse yamaha on it. Its been a outstanding boat and the Yamaha has performed flawlessly. Never hesitates even in the winter. You can expect the same thing out of both being so light is that the wind can be frustrating at times. We (old man and I) have been looking for a used 18ft for 2yrs now and no such luck. I am not a fan of the small platform on ours but the 18ft platform would be just right. My bestfriend has the exact G3 boat your asking of and ive always loved the size but I find that the CC is wasted floor space where our SC is not in the way or have to walk around it. I would also suggest either that u decide, at applying the rhino lining to all the interior.
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#3241851 - 05/08/13 06:48 AM Re: Which boat? [Re: Spurhunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Spurhunter
 Originally Posted By: Kirk
Yamaha................never heard a bad word uttered about them.



I have owned 2 yamahas. Never a problem. BUT, I know 2 guys that have blown up SHO 250's still under warranty in the last two months. Yes, they are cursing yamaha.




did they run ethanol in them? it cost me the only good merc i ever owned.
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#3242150 - 05/08/13 12:13 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: stik]
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 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: Spurhunter
 Originally Posted By: Kirk
Yamaha................never heard a bad word uttered about them.



I have owned 2 yamahas. Never a problem. BUT, I know 2 guys that have blown up SHO 250's still under warranty in the last two months. Yes, they are cursing yamaha.




did they run ethanol in them? it cost me the only good merc i ever owned.


Many Yamaha 4 strokes are known for "Making Oil". My 90hp did. Luckily I checked the oil regularly and caught it. Changing my oil every month sucked..... but was better than a new power head. I never got a solution from Yamaha as to why it was doing it. It eventually stopped. Yamaha then said it just needed time to break in. 7 months to break in? Anyway the motor never failed to start and run and performed great on the water. However, i'm sure that had I not checked my oil and just ran it that it would have caused serious problems. Im not bashing Yamaha, just offering a little awareness. Just google Yamaha making oil.
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#3242225 - 05/08/13 02:00 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: stik]
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 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: Spurhunter
 Originally Posted By: Kirk
Yamaha................never heard a bad word uttered about them.



I have owned 2 yamahas. Never a problem. BUT, I know 2 guys that have blown up SHO 250's still under warranty in the last two months. Yes, they are cursing yamaha.




did they run ethanol in them? it cost me the only good merc i ever owned.


I don't know any outboard owners that still run ethanol.
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#3242538 - 05/08/13 10:03 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: Spurhunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Spurhunter
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: Spurhunter
 Originally Posted By: Kirk
Yamaha................never heard a bad word uttered about them.



I have owned 2 yamahas. Never a problem. BUT, I know 2 guys that have blown up SHO 250's still under warranty in the last two months. Yes, they are cursing yamaha.




did they run ethanol in them? it cost me the only good merc i ever owned.


I don't know any outboard owners that still run ethanol.


Ethanol free isn't common in some places. I try not to run ethanol but that's not always convenient. I add Lucas and Quickleen to every tank to ease the mind.
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#3244253 - 05/11/13 10:25 AM Re: Which boat? [Re: BDS05]
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Have you decided which boat and motor?
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#3244339 - 05/11/13 02:19 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: Football Hunter]
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is the yamaha or merc 4 stroke? In my experience Mercs use more oil than the Yamaha's.

My dad had a Merc 2 stroke 250 on his last ranger and he would eat a gallon of oil per tank. The Yamaha 2 stroke he had before would maybe take a gallon every 2-3 tanks.

Of course the 4 stroke Yamaha he has now is the way to go!
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#3244340 - 05/11/13 02:21 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: AllOutdoors]
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 Originally Posted By: AllOutdoors
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: Spurhunter
 Originally Posted By: Kirk
Yamaha................never heard a bad word uttered about them.



I have owned 2 yamahas. Never a problem. BUT, I know 2 guys that have blown up SHO 250's still under warranty in the last two months. Yes, they are cursing yamaha.




did they run ethanol in them? it cost me the only good merc i ever owned.


Many Yamaha 4 strokes are known for "Making Oil". My 90hp did. Luckily I checked the oil regularly and caught it. Changing my oil every month sucked..... but was better than a new power head. I never got a solution from Yamaha as to why it was doing it. It eventually stopped. Yamaha then said it just needed time to break in. 7 months to break in? Anyway the motor never failed to start and run and performed great on the water. However, i'm sure that had I not checked my oil and just ran it that it would have caused serious problems. Im not bashing Yamaha, just offering a little awareness. Just google Yamaha making oil.


Did you follow the break in when you first got it? If not it could have delayed the process.
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#3244524 - 05/11/13 08:14 PM Re: Which boat? [Re: Jroberts238]
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 Originally Posted By: Jroberts238
 Originally Posted By: AllOutdoors
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: Spurhunter
 Originally Posted By: Kirk
Yamaha................never heard a bad word uttered about them.



I have owned 2 yamahas. Never a problem. BUT, I know 2 guys that have blown up SHO 250's still under warranty in the last two months. Yes, they are cursing yamaha.




did they run ethanol in them? it cost me the only good merc i ever owned.


Many Yamaha 4 strokes are known for "Making Oil". My 90hp did. Luckily I checked the oil regularly and caught it. Changing my oil every month sucked..... but was better than a new power head. I never got a solution from Yamaha as to why it was doing it. It eventually stopped. Yamaha then said it just needed time to break in. 7 months to break in? Anyway the motor never failed to start and run and performed great on the water. However, i'm sure that had I not checked my oil and just ran it that it would have caused serious problems. Im not bashing Yamaha, just offering a little awareness. Just google Yamaha making oil.


Did you follow the break in when you first got it? If not it could have delayed the process.


Yes.
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#3244722 - 05/12/13 08:22 AM Re: Which boat? [Re: AllOutdoors]
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I bought an 1860 Lowe sportsman with the 90hp 4 stroke Mercury last spring and love the setup. Now mine doesn't have the forward fuel cell but it does have a good size back deck which let's the fuel tank come forward a bit more. Outside of the tuffness Lowe boats are known for the biggest reason I didn't buy the G3 is the lost inside room. The G3 loses about a foot of floor with the way the sides are made. About 8-10 inches of floor length with the forward fuel cell and the console wasted a lot of space. Have had mine in ruff water, shallow water, carry heavy loads and I don't have one complaint with the boat. Now the Merc did blow with 8.3 hours on it as well as the computer failed but as in all things mechanical it will break. This leads me to this, I bought mine from Bunch Marine and will never do business with them ever. Actually had Curtis, the owner, tell me that it was my problem and between me and Mercury. Had a few issues with Mercury's customer service but nothing out the norm. But Mercury actually had to make Bunch replace my motor with one of the two they had there in the crate. I wouldn't recommend any one doing business with a dealer that doesn't stand behind what they sell or believe in customer satisfaction especially when they have your boat more than you do. So to answer the question between Lowe and G3 go with the Lowe.
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