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#3240399 - 05/06/13 01:17 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
smstone22
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Im glad they are raising awareness, thats a good thing. Yall think you have it bad though, Lawrence is like 120 birds over my county on the harvest right now. Giles is 500 birds over! Wayne is 300 over, sounds like a turkey paradise compared to what Im used to.
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#3240408 - 05/06/13 01:24 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: smstone22]
woodsman87
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 Originally Posted By: smstone22
Im glad they are raising awareness, thats a good thing. Yall think you have it bad though, Lawrence is like 120 birds over my county on the harvest right now. Giles is 500 birds over! Wayne is 300 over, sounds like a turkey paradise compared to what Im used to.


I understand what your saying, but the thing is this is not what typical Lawrence, Wayne, and Giles people are used to. I am still thankful that I have turkeys to hunt. I am just worried that the population is spiraling down out of control, and one year I will no longer be able to hunt the wild bird.

I am a dramatic extremeist though. Hopefully and probably this isn't going to happen anytime soon.


Edited by woodsman87 (05/06/13 01:26 PM)

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#3240412 - 05/06/13 01:30 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
smstone22
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Oh I understand just putting it into perspective. The people are going to have to start raising awareness just like you all are doing, I think its great, because Im not sure our wildlife agency will really respond to any problems in time to fix anything before it just gets really bad.
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#3240415 - 05/06/13 01:34 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: smstone22]
woodsman87
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 Originally Posted By: smstone22
Oh I understand just putting it into perspective. The people are going to have to start raising awareness just like you all are doing, I think its great, because Im not sure our wildlife agency will really respond to any problems in time to fix anything before it just gets really bad.


Yes I remember reading your thread a few weeks ago about them ignoring your black bear emails or something. I think TWRA does a good job, I am from Alabama and deer/turkey hunting IMO is about 10x better.
I wonder if our opinions will be heard at this upcoming meeting or just pretend to be heard?

I have said I am not a biologist, and many of us are not. But what alot of us are is people that are out there daily observing, and knowing what is happening daily in their respective areas. I don't see how some graduate real biologist could tell us what is wrong or not wrong on our property when they have never been there.

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#3240487 - 05/06/13 02:57 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: smstone22]
Rockhound
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 Originally Posted By: smstone22
Im glad they are raising awareness, thats a good thing. Yall think you have it bad though, Lawrence is like 120 birds over my county on the harvest right now. Giles is 500 birds over! Wayne is 300 over, sounds like a turkey paradise compared to what Im used to.


The thing people dont see when looking at harvest numbers is, the north 1/3 of the counties mentioned are carrying 90-95% of the total harvest leaving the other 5-10% to the rest of the county
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#3240493 - 05/06/13 03:07 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
woodsman87
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 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
 Originally Posted By: smstone22
Im glad they are raising awareness, thats a good thing. Yall think you have it bad though, Lawrence is like 120 birds over my county on the harvest right now. Giles is 500 birds over! Wayne is 300 over, sounds like a turkey paradise compared to what Im used to.


The thing people dont see when looking at harvest numbers is, the north 1/3 of the counties mentioned are carrying 90-95% of the total harvest leaving the other 5-10% to the rest of the county


Yep exactly right. If they do indeed have units, south of 64 will probably be a different unit.

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#3240546 - 05/06/13 04:01 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
Jarred525
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woodsman, did you see this article this past weekend:

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/05/turkey_hens_sitting_nests_full.html

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#3240618 - 05/06/13 05:11 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Jarred525]
Boll Weevil
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Just read the article; thanks for posting. I never considered one possibility that was mentioned. Not enough gobblers to breed all the hens? Never thought of that before...or even heard of it for that matter.

In a sense this might support the lower limit philosophy. Some say reducing the limit doesn't really have an impact, but what if there's only 1 tom per square mile to service scores of hens? Combine 2 poults per hen (of those hens he even gets around to), predation, and a possible load of #6s at some point during the spring.

Food for thought I guess.

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#3240799 - 05/06/13 08:25 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Jarred525]
woodsman87
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 Originally Posted By: Jarred525
woodsman, did you see this article this past weekend:

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/05/turkey_hens_sitting_nests_full.html


Did not, but just now read it. Goes along with several of the things I have already said, and I also have been noticing the downfall for a few years. The only thing I have changed my mind about is harvest limits. Looks to me like bag limit should be lowered. That isn't the only problem though. Something is killing hens, poults, and eggs.

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#3240836 - 05/06/13 09:04 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
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 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
 Originally Posted By: Jarred525
woodsman, did you see this article this past weekend:

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/05/turkey_hens_sitting_nests_full.html


Did not, but just now read it. Goes along with several of the things I have already said, and I also have been noticing the downfall for a few years. The only thing I have changed my mind about is harvest limits. Looks to me like bag limit should be lowered. That isn't the only problem though. Something is killing hens, poults, and eggs.


Yep something is definitely happening with the hens, poults, and eggs. Where are you from?
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