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#3240723 - 05/06/13 07:05 PM The Private Life of Deer series on PBS
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#3241052 - 05/07/13 08:13 AM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: Poser]
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I'll have to set my DVR to record that.
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#3241296 - 05/07/13 12:37 PM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: BSK]
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Cool, might have to watch online
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#3242553 - 05/08/13 10:52 PM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: catman529]
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Pretty good.
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#3242675 - 05/09/13 08:07 AM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
Pretty good.
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#3242685 - 05/09/13 08:13 AM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: Andy S.]
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I was disappointed. I was hoping a program with the reputation of "Nature" would produce a more accurate depiction of the species and its interactions with Man. Yet throughout, the program was plagued with biological inaccuracies.

Pretty sad when many hunting groups--who are seen by environmentalists as the "enemies" of deer--could have easily produced a far more biologically accurate description of deer, deer behavior, and the species interaction with Man.
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#3242746 - 05/09/13 09:33 AM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
I was disappointed. I was hoping a program with the reputation of "Nature" would produce a more accurate depiction of the species and its interactions with Man. Yet throughout, the program was plagued with biological inaccuracies.

Pretty sad when many hunting groups--who are seen by environmentalists as the "enemies" of deer--could have easily produced a far more biologically accurate description of deer, deer behavior, and the species interaction with Man.


For what it was, I thought it was fine. I would rather watch that than a hunting show, that's for sure.
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#3242775 - 05/09/13 10:08 AM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
For what it was, I thought it was fine.
Agree, it reminded me of something more directed at the lay person who has little to no knowledge of deer and how they interact in the wild, whether it be with each other, humans, other animals, etc.
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#3242776 - 05/09/13 10:17 AM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: Andy S.]
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 Originally Posted By: Andy S.
 Originally Posted By: Poser
For what it was, I thought it was fine.
Agree, it reminded me of something more directed at the lay person who has little to no knowledge of deer and how they interact in the wild, whether it be with each other, humans, other animals, etc.


That, and you still got to see some big bucks.... standing in front yards... with dogs, people and camera crews standing 10 yards away.
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#3242780 - 05/09/13 10:19 AM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: Poser]
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One thing that occurred to me when they did the experiment with the coyote silhouettes is why people go to the trouble of using deer decoys that are all mocked up like a deer with brown and white patches or even 3D? Seems like anything beyond a silhouette is overkill.
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#3242790 - 05/09/13 10:27 AM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
That, and you still got to see some big bucks.... standing in front yards... with dogs, people and camera crews standing 10 yards away.
...as well as several scenes with a high fence in the background.
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#3242795 - 05/09/13 10:41 AM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
One thing that occurred to me when they did the experiment with the coyote silhouettes is why people go to the trouble of using deer decoys that are all mocked up like a deer with brown and white patches or even 3D? Seems like anything beyond a silhouette is overkill.
More or less agree,but have seen a few bucks freak out when circling them,and basically they "disappear" when they get head on or straight behind them.
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#3242814 - 05/09/13 11:01 AM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: Andy S.]
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 Originally Posted By: Andy S.
 Originally Posted By: Poser
That, and you still got to see some big bucks.... standing in front yards... with dogs, people and camera crews standing 10 yards away.
...as well as several scenes with a high fence in the background.


Watching the deer jump the garden fences was kind of funny. I think I told you last year how I saw a doe jump right between the cables of the high fenced orchard there by Ames. -deer didn't even skip a beat, just jumped between the fencing at full speed.
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#3242866 - 05/09/13 12:22 PM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
I think I told you last year how I saw a doe jump right between the cables of the high fenced orchard there by Ames. -deer didn't even skip a beat, just jumped between the fencing at full speed.
I've seen that one time myself while hunting near one of the fenced orchards at Ames. I walked up on a lone doe one afternoon while headed to my stand. She threaded the strands perfectly and never checked up as she bolted away from me.
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#3242964 - 05/09/13 02:14 PM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
I would rather watch that than a hunting show, that's for sure.


THAT I agree with.
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#3242967 - 05/09/13 02:18 PM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: Andy S.]
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 Originally Posted By: Andy S.
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For what it was, I thought it was fine.
Agree, it reminded me of something more directed at the lay person who has little to no knowledge of deer and how they interact in the wild, whether it be with each other, humans, other animals, etc.


I agree with that assessment Andy, but how could they get simple facts so wrong, such as their statement about deer having such bad eyesight that, from a Human perspective, deer are virtually blind. WHAT?! Deer have excellent eyesight. They can't see things as sharply defined as we humans do (due to their lack of a UV filter in their eyes), but they see just fine, just as well as a cow or a horse does. Deer are virtually blind? HIGHLY erroneous statement.
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#3242971 - 05/09/13 02:22 PM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: BSK]
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Did they have some monster suburban bucks on cam or what! Wow, there were some real whoppers!!!
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#3242975 - 05/09/13 02:26 PM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
One thing that occurred to me when they did the experiment with the coyote silhouettes is why people go to the trouble of using deer decoys that are all mocked up like a deer with brown and white patches or even 3D? Seems like anything beyond a silhouette is overkill.


Pretty worthless experiment considering it's been established that no mammal species beyond primates and canids can actually identify another animal by its "silhouette." All those deer were reacting to was something "new" in the yard.

If those silhouettes had been shaped like deer, they would have elicited the exact same response as what was observed.
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#3242983 - 05/09/13 02:34 PM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Poser
One thing that occurred to me when they did the experiment with the coyote silhouettes is why people go to the trouble of using deer decoys that are all mocked up like a deer with brown and white patches or even 3D? Seems like anything beyond a silhouette is overkill.


Pretty worthless experiment considering it's been established that no mammal species beyond primates and canids can actually identify another animal by its "silhouette." All those deer were reacting to was something "new" in the yard.

If those silhouettes had been shaped like deer, they would have elicited the exact same response as what was observed.


Based on that, would the way Western hunters use cattle silhouettes to stalk close to Antelope be technically not offering any advantage on a stalk?
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#3243025 - 05/09/13 03:33 PM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: Poser]
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One thing that occurred to me when they did the experiment with the coyote silhouettes is why people go to the trouble of using deer decoys that are all mocked up like a deer with brown and white patches or even 3D? Seems like anything beyond a silhouette is overkill.


Pretty worthless experiment considering it's been established that no mammal species beyond primates and canids can actually identify another animal by its "silhouette." All those deer were reacting to was something "new" in the yard.

If those silhouettes had been shaped like deer, they would have elicited the exact same response as what was observed.


Based on that, would the way Western hunters use cattle silhouettes to stalk close to Antelope be technically not offering any advantage on a stalk?


The only advantage is concealment. The antelope don't think the silhouettes are cattle. They just think they are not something dangerous.
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#3243154 - 05/09/13 08:30 PM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: BSK]
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I also found the fact that they almost seemed to encourage the practice of human interaction and contact as a good thing was disturbing. I think that they should have let people know of the dangers of deer attacking humans, disease transmittal, etc. The woman who raised the fawn in her home and let it continue to come in such close contact should have raised biological red flags.
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#3243229 - 05/09/13 09:52 PM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
I was disappointed. I was hoping a program with the reputation of "Nature" would produce a more accurate depiction of the species and its interactions with Man. Yet throughout, the program was plagued with biological inaccuracies.

Pretty sad when many hunting groups--who are seen by environmentalists as the "enemies" of deer--could have easily produced a far more biologically accurate description of deer, deer behavior, and the species interaction with Man.


The 'Nature' series began a steep dive to the left when George Page left the program- not sure if that was a coincident or not.

As for the show- I get the feeling most who watched it simply said "ooooh, I wish I lived there".
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#3243571 - 05/10/13 11:53 AM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: EastTNHunter]
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I also found the fact that they almost seemed to encourage the practice of human interaction and contact as a good thing was disturbing. I think that they should have let people know of the dangers of deer attacking humans, disease transmittal, etc. The woman who raised the fawn in her home and let it continue to come in such close contact should have raised biological red flags.


I only saw the last bit of it, but this is exactly what I thought too. Why would they seemingly promote somebody raising a deer in their house??

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#3243863 - 05/10/13 06:23 PM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: Poser]
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Any idea when it will be back on TV?
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#3245668 - 05/13/13 06:56 PM Re: The Private Life of Deer series on PBS [Re: de novo]
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Any idea when it will be back on TV?

You can watch it on computer
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