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#3241315 - 05/07/13 01:05 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: YEKRUT]
Boll Weevil
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 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
I doubt they have any answers now either since they never chime in on the threads here or elsewhere when people discuss it.

I've been curious as to whether anyone from TWRA was monitoring this discussion and sort of wish an authority would offer some input in these regards. I've gotten the feeling that there's a good many of us that are perfectly open and willing to offer input, share observations, pariticipate in creating/executing an action plan...whatever it takes.

I'm actually a little disappointed noone from the game department has contributed to the different discussions that have popped up lately.

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#3241359 - 05/07/13 02:04 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Boll Weevil]
woodsman87
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Registered: 09/27/12
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Loc: south TN

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 Originally Posted By: Boll Weevil
 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
I doubt they have any answers now either since they never chime in on the threads here or elsewhere when people discuss it.

I've been curious as to whether anyone from TWRA was monitoring this discussion and sort of wish an authority would offer some input in these regards. I've gotten the feeling that there's a good many of us that are perfectly open and willing to offer input, share observations, pariticipate in creating/executing an action plan...whatever it takes.


I'm actually a little disappointed noone from the game department has contributed to the different discussions that have popped up lately.


I know what you mean, I would like to hear a real biologist talk about this.

But about these populations, I still believe that it is just a cyclical thing, and we are all in just a tough spot right now. Most of it may be out of our hands, but we can still do our part by creating quality turkey habitat.
That doesn't mean feeding them corn year round either.

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#3241451 - 05/07/13 04:01 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: YEKRUT]
Lawrence
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Registered: 10/03/07
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 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
I've been telling them for years we had a problem and they looked at me like I was crazy. NOW 6 or 7 years later when they are almost nonexistant in a big portion of southern middle TN do they want to have a meeting to discuss it. It's a little late for discussion now. I try talking to twra in nashville every year and they don't seem concerned or have any answers. I doubt they have any answers now either since they never chime in on the threads here or elsewhere when people discuss it.


Hey Brandon how has your season been
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#3241641 - 05/07/13 08:18 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Lawrence]
YEKRUT
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Registered: 08/22/06
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 Originally Posted By: Lawrence
 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
I've been telling them for years we had a problem and they looked at me like I was crazy. NOW 6 or 7 years later when they are almost nonexistant in a big portion of southern middle TN do they want to have a meeting to discuss it. It's a little late for discussion now. I try talking to twra in nashville every year and they don't seem concerned or have any answers. I doubt they have any answers now either since they never chime in on the threads here or elsewhere when people discuss it.


Hey Brandon how has your season been


Great until I got to my places in TN. Ain't nothing there to hunt, hasn't been in a few years. We smoked em in Alabama this year. How about yours?
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#3241647 - 05/07/13 08:24 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
YEKRUT
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 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
 Originally Posted By: Boll Weevil
 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
I doubt they have any answers now either since they never chime in on the threads here or elsewhere when people discuss it.

I've been curious as to whether anyone from TWRA was monitoring this discussion and sort of wish an authority would offer some input in these regards. I've gotten the feeling that there's a good many of us that are perfectly open and willing to offer input, share observations, pariticipate in creating/executing an action plan...whatever it takes.


I'm actually a little disappointed noone from the game department has contributed to the different discussions that have popped up lately.


I know what you mean, I would like to hear a real biologist talk about this.

But about these populations, I still believe that it is just a cyclical thing, and we are all in just a tough spot right now. Most of it may be out of our hands, but we can still do our part by creating quality turkey habitat.
That doesn't mean feeding them corn year round either.


If it was a cycle wouldn't they eventually cycle back up? This isn't a cycle, this is a die off for some reason or another. Other places in the state and not cycling like we are. The counties that border AL are terrible. The counties that border them in AL are the same as the TN counties. Something drastic has happened, to much trapping and relocating to private farms, chickens, disease, I don't know but it is not normal. I used to hold hundreds of birds in the winter and on any given day I could let you listen to 20 gobblers on a spring morning. I have heard one gobbler in TN thus year, and one last year on 3000+ acres spread out over 2 counties.
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#3241845 - 05/08/13 06:41 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: YEKRUT]
elkman
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i dont know how true this is, but i was talking to a man last night and once again he pointed the problem toward chicken houses. BUT, his reason was difference than all the other i have heard. He said they put something in the feed at the chicken houses that when i gobbler eats it out in a field that the waste has been spread over, they become sterile thus the reason i have not seen a poult in years.
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#3241896 - 05/08/13 07:41 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: elkman]
Rockhound
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 Originally Posted By: elkman
i dont know how true this is, but i was talking to a man last night and once again he pointed the problem toward chicken houses. BUT, his reason was difference than all the other i have heard. He said they put something in the feed at the chicken houses that when i gobbler eats it out in a field that the waste has been spread over, they become sterile thus the reason i have not seen a poult in years.


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#3241931 - 05/08/13 08:20 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: YEKRUT]
Lawrence
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Registered: 10/03/07
Posts: 1923
Loc: MT. Juliet Tennessee

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 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
 Originally Posted By: Lawrence
 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
I've been telling them for years we had a problem and they looked at me like I was crazy. NOW 6 or 7 years later when they are almost nonexistant in a big portion of southern middle TN do they want to have a meeting to discuss it. It's a little late for discussion now. I try talking to twra in nashville every year and they don't seem concerned or have any answers. I doubt they have any answers now either since they never chime in on the threads here or elsewhere when people discuss it.



Hey Brandon how has your season been


Great until I got to my places in TN. Ain't nothing there to hunt, hasn't been in a few years. We smoked em in Alabama this year. How about yours?


I only was able to hunt a few days due to coaching softball
but it was pretty slow I hunted Marshall Co Tn
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#3241934 - 05/08/13 08:21 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: YEKRUT]
woodsman87
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Registered: 09/27/12
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 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
 Originally Posted By: Boll Weevil
 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
I doubt they have any answers now either since they never chime in on the threads here or elsewhere when people discuss it.

I've been curious as to whether anyone from TWRA was monitoring this discussion and sort of wish an authority would offer some input in these regards. I've gotten the feeling that there's a good many of us that are perfectly open and willing to offer input, share observations, pariticipate in creating/executing an action plan...whatever it takes.


I'm actually a little disappointed noone from the game department has contributed to the different discussions that have popped up lately.


I know what you mean, I would like to hear a real biologist talk about this.

But about these populations, I still believe that it is just a cyclical thing, and we are all in just a tough spot right now. Most of it may be out of our hands, but we can still do our part by creating quality turkey habitat.
That doesn't mean feeding them corn year round either.


If it was a cycle wouldn't they eventually cycle back up? This isn't a cycle, this is a die off for some reason or another. Other places in the state and not cycling like we are. The counties that border AL are terrible. The counties that border them in AL are the same as the TN counties. Something drastic has happened, to much trapping and relocating to private farms, chickens, disease, I don't know but it is not normal. I used to hold hundreds of birds in the winter and on any given day I could let you listen to 20 gobblers on a spring morning. I have heard one gobbler in TN thus year, and one last year on 3000+ acres spread out over 2 counties.


They would cycle back up, and agree with most all of you, something is wrong in southern TN. I hunt North AL as well, and it has been down for a several years too.
North AL used to be bad (first turkey season there was in 1997) then it was good about 99-06. South TN was good about this same time. It has gone down significantly. Giles and Lawrence counties used to be in the top 5 of harvest yearly, while some of the other TN counties were down. Now they have alot of fruit and we have few.

I hunt alot in South AL and central AL, and they have gone through cylces. Have 1,200 acres in Randolph county AL, and 900 acres in Chambers county. I have seen ups and downs in each of those the past several years. Not so much in Chambers though, too much good nesting habitat. IMO, that is why AL has so many more turkeys. Less people, less houses, less chickens, less hunters, less buildings, less subdivisions, and more woods. You get what I am saying.

Something is wrong, but to be optimistic, I just think it is cyclical and something wierd has happen. Hopefully we will rebound. One day we will hear the downfall of the mid-state birds.

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#3241943 - 05/08/13 08:27 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
woodsman87
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Some of you say about trapping and relocating, I have never heard such. Who do hear that from? And if that is the case, be thankful that is it. That means there is nothing wrong with the turkeys or environment. Be thankful that other people get to enjoy turkey hunting.
I grew up in North AL, and we didn't have a turkey season until 1997. They trapped turkeys from Clarke County AL and released them where I grew up. After a few years, we had a turkey season, and they flourished well until the past about 6-7 years. I didn't know any TN folk to take me to their places, so we traveled to FL, south AL and central AL.

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