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#3239912 - 05/05/13 08:58 PM Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties...
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State representatives have called a meeting for the public Tuesday May, 7 2013, at the loretto civic center for the TWRA to discuss the steep turkey decline in the 3 counties. Everyone needs to show up, I think it will be interesting.
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#3239916 - 05/05/13 09:02 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
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Wowwwww. Very very interested to hear about the outcomes.
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#3239931 - 05/05/13 09:07 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Boll Weevil]
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im sure its been asked before but why has the turkey populations declined like crazy in those counties? anyone have an ideas
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#3239932 - 05/05/13 09:07 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Boll Weevil]
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I hope this is the beginning for what a lot of folks are hoping for... Units, possible lower limits? who knows... Im all for helping our states flock.
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#3239938 - 05/05/13 09:11 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: wwa7]
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I think they moved to Robertson county....I have never seen so many turkeys on my lease like I have this year.
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#3239951 - 05/05/13 09:18 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Recoil]
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If they think they are in decline..they need to watch this video I posted on here a little while back...LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYMfDxsifZ4
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#3239963 - 05/05/13 09:32 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: pressfit]
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 Originally Posted By: pressfit
If they think they are in decline..they need to watch this video I posted on here a little while back...LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYMfDxsifZ4


You sure won't find that many in Lawrence, especially south of 64
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#3239971 - 05/05/13 09:41 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
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Harvest in Wayne and Lawrence county are over half of what they have been in years past
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#3239974 - 05/05/13 09:43 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
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Somebody please report back after this meeting. Very interested to hear what TWRA says. Our numbers in South Giles are way off this year.
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#3239989 - 05/05/13 09:58 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Jarred525]
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We got them every where in the north end.. they are like the deer are.. I dont even check up now when I see them.. I got 2 gobblers that wake me up 2-3 times a week gobbling in my back yard.. i'm fixing to kill them both so i can get a little more shut eye..LOL
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#3240021 - 05/05/13 10:30 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: pressfit]
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 Originally Posted By: pressfit
We got them every where in the north end.. they are like the deer are.. I dont even check up now when I see them.. I got 2 gobblers that wake me up 2-3 times a week gobbling in my back yard.. i'm fixing to kill them both so i can get a little more shut eye..LOL


I can help... \:\)
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#3240024 - 05/05/13 10:37 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
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Laurel hill WMA harvest this season -14
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#3240087 - 05/06/13 06:41 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
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let us all know what they say barkley i will be at work.
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#3240093 - 05/06/13 06:59 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: pressfit]
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I never thought they would decline
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#3240149 - 05/06/13 08:05 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Jarred525]
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 Originally Posted By: Jarred525
Somebody please report back after this meeting. Very interested to hear what TWRA says. Our numbers in South Giles are way off this year.


They have been going down since 2007. Don't know how many people I have talked to about this, but it is for sure true. North of highway 64 seems to be the same or on the rise.

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#3240200 - 05/06/13 09:04 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
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 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
 Originally Posted By: Jarred525
Somebody please report back after this meeting. Very interested to hear what TWRA says. Our numbers in South Giles are way off this year.


They have been going down since 2007. Don't know how many people I have talked to about this, but it is for sure true. North of highway 64 seems to be the same or on the rise.


I can attest to that. But I would say the most rapid decline has been from last year to this year. Used t, you could ride up and down the road and see tons of turkeys out in fields. I am just not seeing that anymore.

On our place, we have killed one bird this year. In a normal year we kill at least 5 or 6. Amazing how big a difference if you drive 10 miles north our east of our place. My dad hunts a farm in Lincoln that is loaded! Only 10 miles away as the crow flies.

I have heard rumors of disease, birds being trapped out, etc... Will be glad to hear what TWRA has to say. Wish I could be there. Somebody take good notes.

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#3240228 - 05/06/13 09:45 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Jarred525]
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 Originally Posted By: Jarred525
 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
 Originally Posted By: Jarred525
Somebody please report back after this meeting. Very interested to hear what TWRA says. Our numbers in South Giles are way off this year.


They have been going down since 2007. Don't know how many people I have talked to about this, but it is for sure true. North of highway 64 seems to be the same or on the rise.


I can attest to that. But I would say the most rapid decline has been from last year to this year. Used t, you could ride up and down the road and see tons of turkeys out in fields. I am just not seeing that anymore.

On our place, we have killed one bird this year. In a normal year we kill at least 5 or 6. Amazing how big a difference if you drive 10 miles north our east of our place. My dad hunts a farm in Lincoln that is loaded! Only 10 miles away as the crow flies.

I have heard rumors of disease, birds being trapped out, etc... Will be glad to hear what TWRA has to say. Wish I could be there. Somebody take good notes.


Im not sure of where your spots is, but I believe the most drastic drop from what I could tell was 2006-2007 or 07-08. I think we had one good year in '10. but since 2007 numbers have dropped.
Some people say "well alot of people do not even check their turkeys in, and the new check-in procedures have the numbers off."
Another statement is, "the weather was bad on opening day, therefore harvest numbers is way down."
I agree with both arguments people make, they are legitimate. But I am a "full-time turkey hunter" I am out there observing alot, and I know for sure with my observations and other big-time turkey hunters observations that turkey numbers in giles county, south of highway 64 and pulaski, have gone down.

I don't drive through lincoln daily, but my spot northeast of fayetteville is still a good place, but it has also declined since 06-07, still better than sourthern giles though.

I haven't heard any rumors of disease or trapped out, although that could be real stuff. I just think we have, for whatever reason, have had bad hatches for several years in a row. The hen killing during sept.-oct. also effects it drastically.

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#3240232 - 05/06/13 09:47 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
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 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
State representatives have called a meeting for the public Tuesday May, 7 2013, at the loretto civic center for the TWRA to discuss the steep turkey decline in the 3 counties. Everyone needs to show up, I think it will be interesting.


what time please?

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#3240330 - 05/06/13 11:50 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
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 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
State representatives have called a meeting for the public Tuesday May, 7 2013, at the loretto civic center for the TWRA to discuss the steep turkey decline in the 3 counties. Everyone needs to show up, I think it will be interesting.


what time please?


7 p.m.
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#3240397 - 05/06/13 01:16 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
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woodsman87 is correct. I have hunted turkey on two farms seperated by a common fence for 18 years. One is in Lincoln County and the other is in Moore County. You can get back a mile or more from public roads, there is good habitat,and not the pressure some places have. The numbers seen and heard have decrease over the last few years. The few hunters that hunt the place all expressed the view that the birds are not there in the numbers they uesed to be.
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#3240399 - 05/06/13 01:17 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
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Im glad they are raising awareness, thats a good thing. Yall think you have it bad though, Lawrence is like 120 birds over my county on the harvest right now. Giles is 500 birds over! Wayne is 300 over, sounds like a turkey paradise compared to what Im used to.
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#3240408 - 05/06/13 01:24 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: smstone22]
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 Originally Posted By: smstone22
Im glad they are raising awareness, thats a good thing. Yall think you have it bad though, Lawrence is like 120 birds over my county on the harvest right now. Giles is 500 birds over! Wayne is 300 over, sounds like a turkey paradise compared to what Im used to.


I understand what your saying, but the thing is this is not what typical Lawrence, Wayne, and Giles people are used to. I am still thankful that I have turkeys to hunt. I am just worried that the population is spiraling down out of control, and one year I will no longer be able to hunt the wild bird.

I am a dramatic extremeist though. Hopefully and probably this isn't going to happen anytime soon.


Edited by woodsman87 (05/06/13 01:26 PM)

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#3240412 - 05/06/13 01:30 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
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Oh I understand just putting it into perspective. The people are going to have to start raising awareness just like you all are doing, I think its great, because Im not sure our wildlife agency will really respond to any problems in time to fix anything before it just gets really bad.
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#3240413 - 05/06/13 01:33 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: smstone22]
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West Tennessee in general is not experiencing the turkey numbers like they should be. While Middle Tennessee, Maury County in particular, has had an explosion in their turkey numbers.
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#3240415 - 05/06/13 01:34 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: smstone22]
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 Originally Posted By: smstone22
Oh I understand just putting it into perspective. The people are going to have to start raising awareness just like you all are doing, I think its great, because Im not sure our wildlife agency will really respond to any problems in time to fix anything before it just gets really bad.


Yes I remember reading your thread a few weeks ago about them ignoring your black bear emails or something. I think TWRA does a good job, I am from Alabama and deer/turkey hunting IMO is about 10x better.
I wonder if our opinions will be heard at this upcoming meeting or just pretend to be heard?

I have said I am not a biologist, and many of us are not. But what alot of us are is people that are out there daily observing, and knowing what is happening daily in their respective areas. I don't see how some graduate real biologist could tell us what is wrong or not wrong on our property when they have never been there.

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#3240487 - 05/06/13 02:57 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: smstone22]
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 Originally Posted By: smstone22
Im glad they are raising awareness, thats a good thing. Yall think you have it bad though, Lawrence is like 120 birds over my county on the harvest right now. Giles is 500 birds over! Wayne is 300 over, sounds like a turkey paradise compared to what Im used to.


The thing people dont see when looking at harvest numbers is, the north 1/3 of the counties mentioned are carrying 90-95% of the total harvest leaving the other 5-10% to the rest of the county
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#3240493 - 05/06/13 03:07 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
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 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
 Originally Posted By: smstone22
Im glad they are raising awareness, thats a good thing. Yall think you have it bad though, Lawrence is like 120 birds over my county on the harvest right now. Giles is 500 birds over! Wayne is 300 over, sounds like a turkey paradise compared to what Im used to.


The thing people dont see when looking at harvest numbers is, the north 1/3 of the counties mentioned are carrying 90-95% of the total harvest leaving the other 5-10% to the rest of the county


Yep exactly right. If they do indeed have units, south of 64 will probably be a different unit.

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#3240546 - 05/06/13 04:01 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
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woodsman, did you see this article this past weekend:

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/05/turkey_hens_sitting_nests_full.html

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#3240618 - 05/06/13 05:11 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Jarred525]
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Just read the article; thanks for posting. I never considered one possibility that was mentioned. Not enough gobblers to breed all the hens? Never thought of that before...or even heard of it for that matter.

In a sense this might support the lower limit philosophy. Some say reducing the limit doesn't really have an impact, but what if there's only 1 tom per square mile to service scores of hens? Combine 2 poults per hen (of those hens he even gets around to), predation, and a possible load of #6s at some point during the spring.

Food for thought I guess.

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#3240799 - 05/06/13 08:25 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Jarred525]
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 Originally Posted By: Jarred525
woodsman, did you see this article this past weekend:

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/05/turkey_hens_sitting_nests_full.html


Did not, but just now read it. Goes along with several of the things I have already said, and I also have been noticing the downfall for a few years. The only thing I have changed my mind about is harvest limits. Looks to me like bag limit should be lowered. That isn't the only problem though. Something is killing hens, poults, and eggs.

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#3240836 - 05/06/13 09:04 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
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 Originally Posted By: Jarred525
woodsman, did you see this article this past weekend:

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/05/turkey_hens_sitting_nests_full.html


Did not, but just now read it. Goes along with several of the things I have already said, and I also have been noticing the downfall for a few years. The only thing I have changed my mind about is harvest limits. Looks to me like bag limit should be lowered. That isn't the only problem though. Something is killing hens, poults, and eggs.


Yep something is definitely happening with the hens, poults, and eggs. Where are you from?
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#3240852 - 05/06/13 09:30 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
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The only thing I did not agree with in the article was his statement that coyotes did not have an impact.

Just finished checking my trail cams that I had running the entire month of April. Not a lot of turkey pics \:\(

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#3240892 - 05/06/13 10:45 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Jarred525]
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Coyotes have an impact no doubt but not to theextent of what we are experiencing
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#3240893 - 05/06/13 10:46 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Jarred525]
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I wish they would get rid of the fall season. Giles, Lawerence, and Wayne are all 3 either sex. Over here in Lincoln its a 6 bird limit, that to me is ridiculous. A few places I hunt are still pretty good, but I have definitely noticed a pretty sharp decline in the last 4 to 5 years in other areas that used to hold pretty good numbers.
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#3241043 - 05/07/13 07:58 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
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 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
 Originally Posted By: Jarred525
woodsman, did you see this article this past weekend:

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/05/turkey_hens_sitting_nests_full.html


Did not, but just now read it. Goes along with several of the things I have already said, and I also have been noticing the downfall for a few years. The only thing I have changed my mind about is harvest limits. Looks to me like bag limit should be lowered. That isn't the only problem though. Something is killing hens, poults, and eggs.


Yep something is definitely happening with the hens, poults, and eggs. Where are you from?


I live in southern Giles County. Used to be turkey heaven, now about 1 gobbler per 5,000 acres.

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#3241047 - 05/07/13 08:04 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: darn2ten]
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 Originally Posted By: darn2ten
I wish they would get rid of the fall season. Giles, Lawerence, and Wayne are all 3 either sex. Over here in Lincoln its a 6 bird limit, that to me is ridiculous. A few places I hunt are still pretty good, but I have definitely noticed a pretty sharp decline in the last 4 to 5 years in other areas that used to hold pretty good numbers.


I agree. I like fall turkey hunting, but not as much as spring. They should at least abandon hen shooting all together.
Look at this, I could go to Lincoln county, kill six hens atdaylight, then drive over to Giles, shoot three more, Get on Highway 64 drive west to Lawrenceburg and kill 3 more, and just keep going down the line.
I don't even remember when they started letting people shoot 3-6 hens a day but it seems like it is correlating with all of these problems we are having. I wouildnt doubt in a few years people in Maury and Marshall started seeing decline just like us because hunters are shooting so many hens, just because they can and its legal.

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#3241050 - 05/07/13 08:10 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
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I believe the article is right about coyotes. I do not think they are a major problem. I am sure they catch some turkeys. But think about how good at surviving an adult bird is. A coyote would have to get mighty lucky to catch a turkey. I have first hand see a coyote in the same cow pasture with a flock of hens and a strutting gobbler. The Gobbler never broke strut, then hens didn't pay it attention, and the coyote just kind of circled them and then went away. The only turkeys I believe that a coyote, bobcat, or fox could catch are wounded/sick birds, hens sitting on nest, and poults.
The main problem is nest getting animals like skunks, possums, and racoons.

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#3241069 - 05/07/13 08:27 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
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not sure if the dates are crossed or if they are 2 different meetings. Someone please help me out?

http://www.wlxonline.com/news5.html
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#3241072 - 05/07/13 08:32 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: elkman]
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 Originally Posted By: elkman
not sure if the dates are crossed or if they are 2 different meetings. Someone please help me out?

http://www.wlxonline.com/news5.html


Good you let me know that. I was planning on going to Loretto tonight.
Anybody know for sure if it is tonight, the 28th, or both?

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#3241075 - 05/07/13 08:34 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
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I was telling my dad about the meeting and that we needed to go, and he said he heard on the radio it was the 28th. So after some research i found this.
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#3241077 - 05/07/13 08:35 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: elkman]
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I would think it is on the 28th since the radio and website said so.
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#3241081 - 05/07/13 08:37 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
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 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
I would think it is on the 28th since the radio and website said so.


Yeah, i would think so too. But, who knows? \:D
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#3241086 - 05/07/13 08:39 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: elkman]
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I sent SCN a PM to try and help clear this up. I will post his answer after i hear from him.
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#3241159 - 05/07/13 09:52 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: elkman]
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Crap let me make a phone call and mind out
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#3241162 - 05/07/13 09:56 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: pressfit]
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Turkey meeting is MAY 28

My source was confused as well, sorry about the misinformation
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#3241206 - 05/07/13 10:48 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
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 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
Turkey meeting is MAY 28

My source was confused as well, sorry about the misinformation


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#3241216 - 05/07/13 10:59 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: elkman]
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I may be at this one, we need to get this out to everyone and have a good showing.
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#3241226 - 05/07/13 11:17 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: YEKRUT]
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 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
I may be at this one, we need to get this out to everyone and have a good showing.


we might have to set up a TNDEER corner in case things dont suit our liking \:D


Edited by elkman (05/07/13 11:18 AM)
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#3241236 - 05/07/13 11:33 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: elkman]
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#3241267 - 05/07/13 11:53 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
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I've been telling them for years we had a problem and they looked at me like I was crazy. NOW 6 or 7 years later when they are almost nonexistant in a big portion of southern middle TN do they want to have a meeting to discuss it. It's a little late for discussion now. I try talking to twra in nashville every year and they don't seem concerned or have any answers. I doubt they have any answers now either since they never chime in on the threads here or elsewhere when people discuss it.
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#3241302 - 05/07/13 12:44 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: YEKRUT]
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I will offer my farm for restocking and take the penalty of not hunting for 2 years if that helps get them back around. BUT, the TWRA will have to help me keep an eye on it for all the people who would decline to follow their rules.
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#3241315 - 05/07/13 01:05 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: YEKRUT]
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 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
I doubt they have any answers now either since they never chime in on the threads here or elsewhere when people discuss it.

I've been curious as to whether anyone from TWRA was monitoring this discussion and sort of wish an authority would offer some input in these regards. I've gotten the feeling that there's a good many of us that are perfectly open and willing to offer input, share observations, pariticipate in creating/executing an action plan...whatever it takes.

I'm actually a little disappointed noone from the game department has contributed to the different discussions that have popped up lately.

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#3241359 - 05/07/13 02:04 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Boll Weevil]
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 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
I doubt they have any answers now either since they never chime in on the threads here or elsewhere when people discuss it.

I've been curious as to whether anyone from TWRA was monitoring this discussion and sort of wish an authority would offer some input in these regards. I've gotten the feeling that there's a good many of us that are perfectly open and willing to offer input, share observations, pariticipate in creating/executing an action plan...whatever it takes.


I'm actually a little disappointed noone from the game department has contributed to the different discussions that have popped up lately.


I know what you mean, I would like to hear a real biologist talk about this.

But about these populations, I still believe that it is just a cyclical thing, and we are all in just a tough spot right now. Most of it may be out of our hands, but we can still do our part by creating quality turkey habitat.
That doesn't mean feeding them corn year round either.

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#3241451 - 05/07/13 04:01 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: YEKRUT]
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 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
I've been telling them for years we had a problem and they looked at me like I was crazy. NOW 6 or 7 years later when they are almost nonexistant in a big portion of southern middle TN do they want to have a meeting to discuss it. It's a little late for discussion now. I try talking to twra in nashville every year and they don't seem concerned or have any answers. I doubt they have any answers now either since they never chime in on the threads here or elsewhere when people discuss it.


Hey Brandon how has your season been
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#3241641 - 05/07/13 08:18 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Lawrence]
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 Originally Posted By: Lawrence
 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
I've been telling them for years we had a problem and they looked at me like I was crazy. NOW 6 or 7 years later when they are almost nonexistant in a big portion of southern middle TN do they want to have a meeting to discuss it. It's a little late for discussion now. I try talking to twra in nashville every year and they don't seem concerned or have any answers. I doubt they have any answers now either since they never chime in on the threads here or elsewhere when people discuss it.


Hey Brandon how has your season been


Great until I got to my places in TN. Ain't nothing there to hunt, hasn't been in a few years. We smoked em in Alabama this year. How about yours?
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#3241647 - 05/07/13 08:24 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
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 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
 Originally Posted By: Boll Weevil
 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
I doubt they have any answers now either since they never chime in on the threads here or elsewhere when people discuss it.

I've been curious as to whether anyone from TWRA was monitoring this discussion and sort of wish an authority would offer some input in these regards. I've gotten the feeling that there's a good many of us that are perfectly open and willing to offer input, share observations, pariticipate in creating/executing an action plan...whatever it takes.


I'm actually a little disappointed noone from the game department has contributed to the different discussions that have popped up lately.


I know what you mean, I would like to hear a real biologist talk about this.

But about these populations, I still believe that it is just a cyclical thing, and we are all in just a tough spot right now. Most of it may be out of our hands, but we can still do our part by creating quality turkey habitat.
That doesn't mean feeding them corn year round either.


If it was a cycle wouldn't they eventually cycle back up? This isn't a cycle, this is a die off for some reason or another. Other places in the state and not cycling like we are. The counties that border AL are terrible. The counties that border them in AL are the same as the TN counties. Something drastic has happened, to much trapping and relocating to private farms, chickens, disease, I don't know but it is not normal. I used to hold hundreds of birds in the winter and on any given day I could let you listen to 20 gobblers on a spring morning. I have heard one gobbler in TN thus year, and one last year on 3000+ acres spread out over 2 counties.
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#3241845 - 05/08/13 06:41 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: YEKRUT]
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i dont know how true this is, but i was talking to a man last night and once again he pointed the problem toward chicken houses. BUT, his reason was difference than all the other i have heard. He said they put something in the feed at the chicken houses that when i gobbler eats it out in a field that the waste has been spread over, they become sterile thus the reason i have not seen a poult in years.
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#3241896 - 05/08/13 07:41 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: elkman]
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i dont know how true this is, but i was talking to a man last night and once again he pointed the problem toward chicken houses. BUT, his reason was difference than all the other i have heard. He said they put something in the feed at the chicken houses that when i gobbler eats it out in a field that the waste has been spread over, they become sterile thus the reason i have not seen a poult in years.


I have wandered that myself!
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#3241931 - 05/08/13 08:20 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: YEKRUT]
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 Originally Posted By: Lawrence
 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
I've been telling them for years we had a problem and they looked at me like I was crazy. NOW 6 or 7 years later when they are almost nonexistant in a big portion of southern middle TN do they want to have a meeting to discuss it. It's a little late for discussion now. I try talking to twra in nashville every year and they don't seem concerned or have any answers. I doubt they have any answers now either since they never chime in on the threads here or elsewhere when people discuss it.



Hey Brandon how has your season been


Great until I got to my places in TN. Ain't nothing there to hunt, hasn't been in a few years. We smoked em in Alabama this year. How about yours?


I only was able to hunt a few days due to coaching softball
but it was pretty slow I hunted Marshall Co Tn
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#3241934 - 05/08/13 08:21 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: YEKRUT]
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 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
 Originally Posted By: Boll Weevil
 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
I doubt they have any answers now either since they never chime in on the threads here or elsewhere when people discuss it.

I've been curious as to whether anyone from TWRA was monitoring this discussion and sort of wish an authority would offer some input in these regards. I've gotten the feeling that there's a good many of us that are perfectly open and willing to offer input, share observations, pariticipate in creating/executing an action plan...whatever it takes.


I'm actually a little disappointed noone from the game department has contributed to the different discussions that have popped up lately.


I know what you mean, I would like to hear a real biologist talk about this.

But about these populations, I still believe that it is just a cyclical thing, and we are all in just a tough spot right now. Most of it may be out of our hands, but we can still do our part by creating quality turkey habitat.
That doesn't mean feeding them corn year round either.


If it was a cycle wouldn't they eventually cycle back up? This isn't a cycle, this is a die off for some reason or another. Other places in the state and not cycling like we are. The counties that border AL are terrible. The counties that border them in AL are the same as the TN counties. Something drastic has happened, to much trapping and relocating to private farms, chickens, disease, I don't know but it is not normal. I used to hold hundreds of birds in the winter and on any given day I could let you listen to 20 gobblers on a spring morning. I have heard one gobbler in TN thus year, and one last year on 3000+ acres spread out over 2 counties.


They would cycle back up, and agree with most all of you, something is wrong in southern TN. I hunt North AL as well, and it has been down for a several years too.
North AL used to be bad (first turkey season there was in 1997) then it was good about 99-06. South TN was good about this same time. It has gone down significantly. Giles and Lawrence counties used to be in the top 5 of harvest yearly, while some of the other TN counties were down. Now they have alot of fruit and we have few.

I hunt alot in South AL and central AL, and they have gone through cylces. Have 1,200 acres in Randolph county AL, and 900 acres in Chambers county. I have seen ups and downs in each of those the past several years. Not so much in Chambers though, too much good nesting habitat. IMO, that is why AL has so many more turkeys. Less people, less houses, less chickens, less hunters, less buildings, less subdivisions, and more woods. You get what I am saying.

Something is wrong, but to be optimistic, I just think it is cyclical and something wierd has happen. Hopefully we will rebound. One day we will hear the downfall of the mid-state birds.

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#3241943 - 05/08/13 08:27 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
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Some of you say about trapping and relocating, I have never heard such. Who do hear that from? And if that is the case, be thankful that is it. That means there is nothing wrong with the turkeys or environment. Be thankful that other people get to enjoy turkey hunting.
I grew up in North AL, and we didn't have a turkey season until 1997. They trapped turkeys from Clarke County AL and released them where I grew up. After a few years, we had a turkey season, and they flourished well until the past about 6-7 years. I didn't know any TN folk to take me to their places, so we traveled to FL, south AL and central AL.

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#3241969 - 05/08/13 08:44 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
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I believe the article is right about coyotes. I do not think they are a major problem. I am sure they catch some turkeys. But think about how good at surviving an adult bird is. A coyote would have to get mighty lucky to catch a turkey. I have first hand see a coyote in the same cow pasture with a flock of hens and a strutting gobbler. The Gobbler never broke strut, then hens didn't pay it attention, and the coyote just kind of circled them and then went away. The only turkeys I believe that a coyote, bobcat, or fox could catch are wounded/sick birds, hens sitting on nest, and poults.
The main problem is nest getting animals like skunks, possums, and racoons.


I agree nest predators are a bigger problem. Wonder if TWRA would consider opening up trapping year around in the hardest impacted areas? I could care less about making moeny off furs, just want to get rid of some of the predators.

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#3241978 - 05/08/13 08:48 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Jarred525]
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 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
I believe the article is right about coyotes. I do not think they are a major problem. I am sure they catch some turkeys. But think about how good at surviving an adult bird is. A coyote would have to get mighty lucky to catch a turkey. I have first hand see a coyote in the same cow pasture with a flock of hens and a strutting gobbler. The Gobbler never broke strut, then hens didn't pay it attention, and the coyote just kind of circled them and then went away. The only turkeys I believe that a coyote, bobcat, or fox could catch are wounded/sick birds, hens sitting on nest, and poults.
The main problem is nest getting animals like skunks, possums, and racoons.


I agree nest predators are a bigger problem. Wonder if TWRA would consider opening up trapping year around in the hardest impacted areas? I could care less about making moeny off furs, just want to get rid of some of the predators.


I agree Jarred. I don't care about making money of furs, its hard to do now days anyways. I just don't know how well it would work. I don't know of many people that would trap. I would like to give a try, but I don't know if I would be able to catch them daily.

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#3241981 - 05/08/13 08:53 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
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 Originally Posted By: Jarred525
 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
I believe the article is right about coyotes. I do not think they are a major problem. I am sure they catch some turkeys. But think about how good at surviving an adult bird is. A coyote would have to get mighty lucky to catch a turkey. I have first hand see a coyote in the same cow pasture with a flock of hens and a strutting gobbler. The Gobbler never broke strut, then hens didn't pay it attention, and the coyote just kind of circled them and then went away. The only turkeys I believe that a coyote, bobcat, or fox could catch are wounded/sick birds, hens sitting on nest, and poults.
The main problem is nest getting animals like skunks, possums, and racoons.


I agree nest predators are a bigger problem. Wonder if TWRA would consider opening up trapping year around in the hardest impacted areas? I could care less about making moeny off furs, just want to get rid of some of the predators.


I agree Jarred. I don't care about making money of furs, its hard to do now days anyways. I just don't know how well it would work. I don't know of many people that would trap. I would like to give a try, but I don't know if I would be able to catch them daily.


It is a time commitment to check traps daily. Luckily my brother and dad live right on the farm so they could probably check them daily. Trapping is not as hard as you might think.

I am scratching my head though on why the northern part of Giles is doing so well why the southern part is struggling?

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#3242025 - 05/08/13 09:29 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Jarred525]
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 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
 Originally Posted By: Jarred525
 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
I believe the article is right about coyotes. I do not think they are a major problem. I am sure they catch some turkeys. But think about how good at surviving an adult bird is. A coyote would have to get mighty lucky to catch a turkey. I have first hand see a coyote in the same cow pasture with a flock of hens and a strutting gobbler. The Gobbler never broke strut, then hens didn't pay it attention, and the coyote just kind of circled them and then went away. The only turkeys I believe that a coyote, bobcat, or fox could catch are wounded/sick birds, hens sitting on nest, and poults.
The main problem is nest getting animals like skunks, possums, and racoons.


I agree nest predators are a bigger problem. Wonder if TWRA would consider opening up trapping year around in the hardest impacted areas? I could care less about making moeny off furs, just want to get rid of some of the predators.


I agree Jarred. I don't care about making money of furs, its hard to do now days anyways. I just don't know how well it would work. I don't know of many people that would trap. I would like to give a try, but I don't know if I would be able to catch them daily.


It is a time commitment to check traps daily. Luckily my brother and dad live right on the farm so they could probably check them daily. Trapping is not as hard as you might think.

I am scratching my head though on why the northern part of Giles is doing so well why the southern part is struggling?


Do not know why either. Go north of Pulaski and it's a different world. I bet out of the 522+ turkeys killed in Giles, 450 were killed north of 64. I have no way of finding that out, just a pure guess off of observations of seeing turkeys and hunters talkin

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#3242097 - 05/08/13 10:58 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
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The statement I'm about to make is gonna come off as hypocritical because I'm a data nut. I always trust the research data...well...almost always.

There was a study conducted by Lovett Williams in FL some years ago that showed preator control actually did very little to improve recruitment and survival. I don't mean killing a skunk or coon here and there, I mean they absolutely worked on the furbearers for the duration of the study.

(Insert hipocrisy here) Regardless of what the research says I just cannot believe that killing each and every one of the varmints I can doesn't help. I know it seems like ya'kill 1 and 3 comes to his funeral but for my part...every coyote I see...fire in the hole.

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#3242123 - 05/08/13 11:36 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Boll Weevil]
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I shoot coyotes I see too Boll Weevil, but its the racoons and such that hurt the turkeys so much, not coyotes.
Shooting coyotes may even have a negative impact, since they probably eat lots of racoons, possums, skunks, etc.

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#3242176 - 05/08/13 12:54 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
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I shoot them too but seasons are more of a limitation. Everything I can legally do to help the birds.
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#3242186 - 05/08/13 01:07 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Boll Weevil]
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The statement I'm about to make is gonna come off as hypocritical because I'm a data nut. I always trust the research data...well...almost always.

There was a study conducted by Lovett Williams in FL some years ago that showed preator control actually did very little to improve recruitment and survival. I don't mean killing a skunk or coon here and there, I mean they absolutely worked on the furbearers for the duration of the study.

(Insert hipocrisy here) Regardless of what the research says I just cannot believe that killing each and every one of the varmints I can doesn't help. I know it seems like ya'kill 1 and 3 comes to his funeral but for my part...every coyote I see...fire in the hole.


Interesting research data. I spoke with Grant Woods at the last QDMA conference and asked him if he had any research data to show the impact of predator control (specifically nest predators) on the turkey population on his farm. He did not have anything as of yet but without a doubt said it was one of the best things he had done (trapping) along with habitat improvement and his turkey numbers have boomed.

Woodsman, check out growingdeer.tv Love the videos and Grant does a good job with his trapping episodes. The Duke Dog Proof Coon traps are awesome!

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#3242227 - 05/08/13 02:03 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Jarred525]
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Hardin county should be added to the list.
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#3242235 - 05/08/13 02:22 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: 8 POINTS OR BETTER]
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Hardin county should be added to the list.
As well as McNairy and Hardeman.

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#3242241 - 05/08/13 02:40 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: CAMARO12]
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Hardin county should be added to the list.
As well as McNairy and Hardeman.


I was wondering about those. I have never hunted west of Waynesboro, and I knew that Hardin, Hardeman, and Mcnairy were all three great turkey counties, traditionally.

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#3242246 - 05/08/13 02:45 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
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Hardeman's 2013 harvest is down over 200 birds from 2010 and almost 200 birds from 2011 and down over 100 from 2012. And McNairy's harvest has declined over the past 3 years.
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#3242443 - 05/08/13 07:53 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: CAMARO12]
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Any one know what years we went from 2 to 3 limit and from 3 to 4.
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#3242871 - 05/09/13 12:26 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
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Like I said... Fayette, Hardeman, and McNairy should be added to the list for west TN. I had the pleasure of hunting a new farm in Fayette county this year that should be LOADED with birds. Its the right area, right habitat, everything... One turkey was heard the whole season and I killed him the first week of the season. Kind of regret it now. I had told myself I would take 1 bird of this farm and be done. That is what I did. I did go several other times, just to listen. Silence. Hardeman County is the same way. A dear friend of mine has a place not too farm Ames Plantation. Five or Six years ago, it was nothing to hear 5- 8 birds on daylight. He has heard 1 bird on it this year... No sign, no scratching, nothing. He has not killed a bird on this place in 3 years. McNairy is in extremely bad shape. I hunt a very large tract in Western McNairy close to Big Hill Pond. The place has gone down hill major. Years ago, it was nothing to hear 10+ birds at daylight. Again, we have done everything we could think of to better the property for turkeys. Planting of Milo, Corn, Chuffa, and clover. Again, a bird has not been killed off of it in a few years now.

I have heard more hunters this year very concerned about it. West TN should be BOOMING with birds. The lay of the land, habitat, and food sources are perfect for the wild turkey. In my observations, I know without a doubt we had 3 years of bad hatches. Extremely wet springs and very abnormally cold springs have hurt the nesting hens. Also, you got to remember... For the hens to nest, they have to be bred! If the gobblers/young gobblers are not there, guess what... no breeding.

I believe West TN, as well as a lot of parts of Middle TN are in trouble. I also have friends who hunt North AL and are seeing the same thing.

Guys we have got to do something... I am not saying there will be a complete die off... No. But our flocks are not doing well. Can you imagine? Telling your kids and grand kids about how we "used" to be able to turkey hunt and how many turkey we used to hear? Its not just about us guys, its about our future generations.

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#3242974 - 05/09/13 02:25 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: wwa7]
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If the gobblers/young gobblers are not there, guess what...no breeding.

After being overrun by jakes and jennies this spring I got to thinking, "Wonder when they can actually breed?" Did a little studying and everything I've read says jakes CAN breed at 1 year old, it's just that they DON'T because typically an adult bird takes care of that business.

One morning I watched 7 jakes and 3 hens peck and scratch and preen till they finally just wandered off. I sure hope it finally clicked with'em that it was up to them to git'er done.

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#3244042 - 05/10/13 10:06 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Boll Weevil]
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Hope it changes. I still don't think it's disease, varmints, predators. I don't think harvest limit is a big factor, even though if it went down to three it would be good.
I think it has been the abnormally wet April/Mays we have had.

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#3254605 - 05/25/13 06:35 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: woodsman87]
YEKRUT
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Is this meeting still on for Tuesday? Anyone else going?
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#3254642 - 05/25/13 08:46 AM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: YEKRUT]
Rockhound
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Yep I'll be there good lord willing
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#3254746 - 05/25/13 01:53 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
YEKRUT
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 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
Yep I'll be there good lord willing


Well at least I won't be the ugliest one there. \:\)
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#3254959 - 05/25/13 09:24 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: YEKRUT]
Rockhound
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 Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
Yep I'll be there good lord willing


Well at least I won't be the ugliest one there. \:\)


Bahahaha.... shut up lol
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#3255954 - 05/27/13 08:11 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: Rockhound]
YEKRUT
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See yall tomorrow night, ill be the good looking guy if anyone wants to look me up. \:\)
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#3255961 - 05/27/13 08:16 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: YEKRUT]
tickweed
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Glad somebody is listening.
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#3256060 - 05/27/13 09:41 PM Re: Lawrence, Wayne, and giles counties... [Re: tickweed]
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Good luck guys. I really hope you get some good information and not just the run around. And please let them know that your neighbors to the west are having the same problems.
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