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#3239544 - 05/05/13 02:25 PM Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt
varminthunter123
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I am wanting to do a black bear hunt this fall in Tennessee. Does anyone know of or could recommend a good reliable guide service?

I am wanting to do an archery hunt, no dogs. Stand hunting.

Any help will be appreciated.

If you are a guide, please pm me with information concerning dates, accommodations and pricing.

Thank Again!!

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#3239579 - 05/05/13 03:51 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: varminthunter123]
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There is a archery only bear season in south Cherokee before the dog hunts start and there is plenty of bears around here. Bears are not like deer, they do not have regular travel routes and trails, they more or less wonder randomly in their home territory and you just got to hunt the gaps, leads and natural funnels. With that being said, no way I would pay a guide if hunting without dogs. Other than knowing the country, a guide couldn't help you kill a bear. You could study some topo maps and do just as well on your own. If you need a general vicinity to hunt, I can help, been stomping around Ocoee for close to forty years but killing a bear without dogs in Tennessee is just pure luck, bottom line!
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#3239619 - 05/05/13 04:36 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: CATCHDAWG]
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#3239919 - 05/05/13 09:02 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: fredfred]
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What kind of range does a bear have? Do they typically stay in the same area?
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#3240138 - 05/06/13 07:49 AM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: varminthunter123]
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 Originally Posted By: varminthunter123
What kind of range does a bear have? Do they typically stay in the same area?


They cover huge areas. If there is a hot food source, they might stay on it for a few days. Otherwise, they may be many miles away next week. They have a great ability to cover a large amount of ground in a short amount of time.
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#3240152 - 05/06/13 08:14 AM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: varminthunter123]
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#3240159 - 05/06/13 08:19 AM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: Buzzard Breath]
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 Originally Posted By: Buzzard Breath
Put lots of miles on your boots and call them in like coyotes. With a name like varminthunter123 you should be capable of that. It's the most fun you can have with your pants on. It's easy to get them in range, tough to hold your composure long enough for a shot.

Be forewarned, some of the bear hunters do not like the archery hunters. It doesn't sound as though TWRA is all for bow hunting them either.

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Archery hunts are primarily used by the agency to control the bear populations on private lands. As much as we'd like to provide opportunity for everyone, the archery hunts on public lands have not been embraced by the public.


Where in that quote do you get that TWRA is not for bow hunting them. His exact words were....the archery hunts on public lands have not been embraced by the PUBLIC.
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#3240186 - 05/06/13 08:39 AM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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Edited by Buzzard Breath (05/06/13 02:24 PM)

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#3240374 - 05/06/13 12:55 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: Buzzard Breath]
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He put that there because most private land is not available to people hunting with dogs. The vast majority of bears are killed with the aid of dogs. If a landowners does not want dogs on their land, what other option is there? Oh yeah...the one they have given the general public. Joe blow is much more likely to get permission as a bow hunter than he is as a houndsman.

If you have a better alternative to increasing bear hunting opportunities for the general public, I would sure love to hear them. BTW, many of those same areas also have a season where dogs are allowed, but the chances of getting permission is slim. The parcels of land are just too small to use dogs without getting onto neighboring property where they may not appreciate it.

I might add that the entire north Cherokee is open with the statewide seasons. The south Cherokee does not have a bow season, they go straight to gun, but you can use a bow if you would like. There are many hunts with no quota where dogs are allowed, but not required.


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#3240453 - 05/06/13 02:26 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: varminthunter123]
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varminthunter123, I apologize for hijacking your thread. That was not the intent of my original post. I went ahead and edited it.
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#3240462 - 05/06/13 02:34 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: Buzzard Breath]
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So am I hearing this right, bears can be brought in with predator calls? If so, what range would the bear have to be in in order to hear the call?
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#3240480 - 05/06/13 02:53 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: varminthunter123]
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 Originally Posted By: varminthunter123
So am I hearing this right, bears can be brought in with predator calls? If so, what range would the bear have to be in in order to hear the call?

Yes they can, I have had them come in to a piglet in distress on a e caller while predator hunting.
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#3240506 - 05/06/13 03:20 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: CATCHDAWG]
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What about a Fawn Distress?
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#3240508 - 05/06/13 03:22 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: varminthunter123]
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Does anyone know any specific areas by trail names that are know to be good for bear? What about camping sites in the same area?
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#3240514 - 05/06/13 03:29 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: varminthunter123]
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I've only called them in a couple times by accident so I can't suggest specific calls, I'm sure there is a lot of info on the net.
If you decide on south Cherokee on the southern side of the Hiawassee river, I know it like the back of my hand, every trail, campsites, whatever you need to know.
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#3240515 - 05/06/13 03:31 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: CATCHDAWG]
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And btw, the wma does go straight into the dog hunts. The archery only is for private land. Doesn't mean you can't hunt it.
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#3240519 - 05/06/13 03:35 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: CATCHDAWG]
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I can help you out with the Tellico ranger district, north of where catch dawg is talking about. They have a lot of open hunts there.

As far as how far they can hear? That would depend on the terrain and vegetation. In some areas sound will not travel far at all, but there are some other areas where it would not surprise me if they could hear you from a mile away. They have a pretty good sense of hearing, but it is their nose that is really outstanding.
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#3240525 - 05/06/13 03:38 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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I am willing to bet a fawn distress would work pretty good early on in the season. The hunts on south Cherokee start in September.
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#3240536 - 05/06/13 03:51 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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Looks like it started the weekend prior to the opening of the state archery season.

According to the state harvest record from last year, the best counties are Cocke and Sevier. It also stated that the archery only was for all counties listed for the dog hunts too.
That would be considered North Cherekee NF, Correct??

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#3240538 - 05/06/13 03:52 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: varminthunter123]
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I would also think that if your trying to call the in you would probably want to be in a tree stand and not hunting on the ground???
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#3240552 - 05/06/13 04:04 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: varminthunter123]
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 Originally Posted By: varminthunter123
I would also think that if your trying to call the in you would probably want to be in a tree stand and not hunting on the ground???

I was on the ground. I just stood up and shood them away without any problems. The counties you mentioned have a higher density as well as the pressure that goes with it.
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#3240558 - 05/06/13 04:08 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: CATCHDAWG]
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The problem with sevier county is the lack of public land. The vast majority is private or national park.
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#3240565 - 05/06/13 04:11 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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I was just thinking that if you trying to call one in and shoot with a bow, being up in a tree might make it easier to draw that if you were on the ground.

I figured that if the were to see you, they would be out of their in a flash.

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#3241001 - 05/07/13 07:15 AM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: Buzzard Breath]
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I have saw dozens of bears while stalking but usually the season isn't open. Find white oaks and you will find bears. I understand that everyone has there preference as to how they like to hunt and I respect that however hound hunting isn't a "chip shot". I have pretty good dogs and it still took me over 20 straight days and 200 miles of boot leather to get a legal bear in a tree.
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#3245150 - 05/12/13 10:27 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: varminthunter123]
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Varmint hunter if you want to kill a bear with your bow, look at public land in Unicoi County. Although alot of land is bear reserve there is still ample oppurtunity on public land here. Killed my first in 2010 a 200lb sow, with my bow on private land, but I hunt public also and see them about every time I go in the early fall. Seems like the sightings decrease once the hound hunts open up. Good luck
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#3245676 - 05/13/13 07:14 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: 1shot1kill]
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Is that still part of Cherokee National Forest or are there some WMA land?
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#3245686 - 05/13/13 07:26 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: varminthunter123]
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That's a pretty large county, any specific areas? You know like roads, trail names to get a guy started.
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#3252968 - 05/22/13 04:56 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: Buzzard Breath]
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You are going the wrong way. Look at Arkansas. Closer, way bigger bears, probably better population.
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#3281838 - 07/03/13 06:59 PM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: tickweed]
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I am planning a trip to Tellico this fall myself. I got within 75 yards of a sow and cub the last time I was there in 2010. I always still hunt roads that are closed to traffic during the dog hunts. I don't see many hound and hopefully the bears know that too. If I had more time to hunt I think I could have tagged one already. This fall it looks like I am gonna get 3 days in.
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#3282860 - 07/05/13 08:41 AM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: varminthunter123]
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 Originally Posted By: varminthunter123
What about a Fawn Distress?


Don't know if southern bears will respond very well to a fawn distress call or not, but the ones on Prince of Wales Island in AK will come a running to it. The blacktails are dropping fawns around the first of June and they are a favorite meal for the bears. When I say dropping, I mean they are everywhere you look. We saw several does giving birth on the side of the road. Took my grandson up a few years ago for a DIY hunt and had a ball.


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#3290964 - 07/14/13 10:42 AM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: varminthunter123]
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Pretty much all of North Cherokee is good bear habitat. Unicoi is loaded with them. But so is Washington, Greene, Carter, Cocke, Johnson and Sullivan counties. If you can find an area next to one of the bear reserves, you can increase your odds. My advise is to spend a little time scouting, looking for scat, another good sign is in the fall they really seek out yellow jacket and hornet nests in the ground. You can see where they dig holes in the ground and when you start seeing several around an area your in a good spot. Even better if you got good deer and turkey sign. Because it's all open during archery. With the exception of Unicoi not having turkey open.
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#3290967 - 07/14/13 10:45 AM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: varminthunter123]
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If you to hunt the biggest bears in the country, check out coastal North Carolina. Where talking in the 700 to 800 lbs. range. They a huge down in the low country swamps.
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#3318856 - 08/11/13 07:30 AM Re: Tennessee 2013 Black Bear Guided Hunt [Re: Buzzard Breath]
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Come to Unicoi County and kill them all, please!
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