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#3240615 - 05/06/13 05:09 PM Re: Silence. [Re: redblood]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
if you were a real "turkey killer", you wouldnt need to be calling anything this weekend cause you would be tagged out by now

Many avid turkey hunters, including myself, will purposefully "pace" their turkey harvests so they end up with a tag AND CAN CONTINUE TO HUNT right up to the last day of the season, not to mention taking less experienced friends out and calling up turkeys for them.

There's quite a huge segment of both deer and turkey hunters who each year kill whatever's the annual limit, minus one, that one opportunity they hold on to, just to continue hunting with that opportunity. We often fail to kill anything on that last day we hunt, so we often fail to limit out for the season.

Whereas many deer hunters kill 2 bucks annually under a 3-buck limit, many among this group would only take 1 buck annually under a 2-buck limit. And same is true with the turkey bag limit. There's going to be a significant segment killing one less than the annual limit.

Of course, there's also a segment that limits out as soon as possible. Regardless of which you prefer, if we reduced the annual limit, there would be more longbeards surviving, upping the ante for better turkey hunting ongoing.

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#3240619 - 05/06/13 05:11 PM Re: Silence. [Re: woodsman87]
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 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
 Originally Posted By: Roost 1
 Originally Posted By: Lawrence
 Originally Posted By: curdogtn
Always got to laugh at the "their done" crowd. Typical of so many who don't know any better.


LOL
I would beg to differ
about those who dont know any better


Remember.....you are talking to "real turkey killers"!!! They prolly know what they are talking about.
I am just waiting for their report on how many they call in this last week....Just because they gobble and strut don't mean they want to hear a call.....I have been doing this too long for anyone to tell me any different but there are always exceptions to the rule and location and hunting pressure do make a difference. But I did learn something....real turkey killas always have a tag in their vest.....LMAO


I done it plenty long and know better too. The last two to three weeks is the best.


I agree the last of the season can be a great time to hunt, but there comes a time when the birds are just not interested anymore. Usually you can tell when the gobblers and jakes start grouping back up. They still gobble but at each other. When I start hearing reports of birds ignoring calls and or going the other way when called too and also you see them with hens and they are no longer strutting then that's when I kno it's about over.... Like I said there are exceptions to the rule and time timing is different depending on location. Around here they are about done. Sure you can still bushwhack one but that's not what we are talking about.
I am not an expert, nor a killer since I don't have any tags left but I would bet there's not many on here that's hunted them harder, longer, and in more places than I have......I am fairly confident in what I am talking about.
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#3240903 - 05/06/13 11:07 PM Re: Silence. [Re: Wes Parrish]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: redblood
if you were a real "turkey killer", you wouldnt need to be calling anything this weekend cause you would be tagged out by now

Many avid turkey hunters, including myself, will purposefully "pace" their turkey harvests so they end up with a tag AND CAN CONTINUE TO HUNT right up to the last day of the season, not to mention taking less experienced friends out and calling up turkeys for them.

There's quite a huge segment of both deer and turkey hunters who each year kill whatever's the annual limit, minus one, that one opportunity they hold on to, just to continue hunting with that opportunity. We often fail to kill anything on that last day we hunt, so we often fail to limit out for the season.

Whereas many deer hunters kill 2 bucks annually under a 3-buck limit, many among this group would only take 1 buck annually under a 2-buck limit. And same is true with the turkey bag limit. There's going to be a significant segment killing one less than the annual limit.

Of course, there's also a segment that limits out as soon as possible. Regardless of which you prefer, if we reduced the annual limit, there would be more longbeards surviving, upping the ante for better turkey hunting ongoing.
I limited out soon as possible, and kind of regret it. Well I don't regret it, I had an unforgettable season and called one in for a buddy after tagging out. but I might pace myself next year, and hopefully draw a quota hunt for a potential 5th bird.

As for bucks, I did exactly what you said, last year. Killed 2 and held out for an older buck, let young ones walk, and then never killed the 3rd. With bucks I would like to kill older ones if I can, so I will hold out. With turkeys, I only pass jakes and I had a good year this spring and killed 4 longbeards within a week. The only way I could draw out my turkey season longer is to not be as successful, or not hunt as often, or hunt with people and let them pull the trigger first if we don't get a double. Will see how next spring goes. I guess you could say my #1 goal is to enjoy myself and hopefully tag out. Now that I know what it's like to be done in a week, I'm not so sure I want to tag out so early. I thought I would just get to fish sooner, but after tagging out I was not in the mood to fish at all. I still wanted to hunt gobblers. Now I am finally getting into the fishing mood. good luck to all of those hunting this last week of season, hope you all fill another tag.
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#3241039 - 05/07/13 07:56 AM Re: Silence. [Re: catman529]
woodsman87
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Just because somebody kills 4 the first week or so of the season don't make them good or better than anyone else. IMO, that means that hunter gets to hunt alot more and has good spots.
I am not able to hunt as much as a like, in the mornings anyway I get to go in the afternoons but we all know those aint as good. My spots also are below average for most of what TN hunters have.
I have hunted along time, and when I was in high school got to go alot, and my spots were better than average. I have been through good and bad. I know what I am talking about and know what it is all about.

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#3241054 - 05/07/13 08:13 AM Re: Silence. [Re: catman529]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
. . . . . I had a good year this spring and killed 4 longbeards within a week. The only way I could draw out my turkey season longer is to not be as successful, or not hunt as often, or hunt with people and let them pull the trigger first if we don't get a double.

You could also make a little adjustment in how you define a "successful" hunt, maybe to be more about the quality of the hunt (and the opportunities provided), and not as heavily weighted on the number of kills? \:\)

Many of my most enjoyable hunts (for both deer & turkey) did not involve me killing anything.

Thinking back to 1987, that was the most enjoyable deer season I ever had, the first one I didn't kill a buck (in my adult life), and the first time I had ever passed up a buck larger antlered than anything I'd ever killed. But I "saw" bigger and saw lots, and the totality of that season made it my best ever. It was the best "hunting" opportunity I had ever experienced. Back then, there was limited opportunity to kill a doe, but I did get a doe for the freezer in January 1988. In fact, on that same morning, I and my two best friends each killed the largest does any of us had ever killed, concluding a fantastic deer season in which each of us had gone "buckless" without regret.

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#3241071 - 05/07/13 08:29 AM Re: Silence. [Re: Wes Parrish]
woodsman87
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: catman529
. . . . . I had a good year this spring and killed 4 longbeards within a week. The only way I could draw out my turkey season longer is to not be as successful, or not hunt as often, or hunt with people and let them pull the trigger first if we don't get a double.

You could also make a little adjustment in how you define a "successful" hunt, maybe to be more about the quality of the hunt (and the opportunities provided), and not as heavily weighted on the number of kills? \:\)

IMO a successful hunt is one that I have fun while doing. Wheter I kill, miss, spook, cant't get a shot or whatever, if I leave that day laughing at myself, thanking the Lord, smiling, or just happy it is successful.
In my 100% honest opinion my favorite hunt is when I hunt with my favorite hunting buddy, my dad, and he shoots one even though he has killed 2x as many turkeys as I have and taught me everything, I still rather him shoot than me.

Many of my most enjoyable hunts (for both deer & turkey) did not involve me killing anything.

Thinking back to 1987, that was the most enjoyable deer season I ever had, the first one I didn't kill a buck (in my adult life), and the first time I had ever passed up a buck larger antlered than anything I'd ever killed. But I "saw" bigger and saw lots, and the totality of that season made it my best ever. It was the best "hunting" opportunity I had ever experienced. Back then, there was limited opportunity to kill a doe, but I did get a doe for the freezer in January 1988. In fact, on that same morning, I and my two best friends each killed the largest does any of us had ever killed, concluding a fantastic deer season in which each of us had gone "buckless" without regret.

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#3241813 - 05/08/13 04:59 AM Re: Silence. [Re: woodsman87]
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Like the rut, turkey my hunting has seen CRAZY variations from area to area. I've heard tons of gobbling where I think a 5 year old could call in a gobbler with his voice (Trousdale Co)to Hamilton County in the mountain areas that had so little gobbler activity that I can count the number of times I have worked a bird on one hand. And when I did get on a bird, a simple purr sent him packing.

Hunted till 11 yesterday and heard ONE bird.



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#3244436 - 05/11/13 06:17 PM Re: Silence. [Re: 102]
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I agree they are "done"...whatever "done" means, to me they are just educated at this point and/or tired along with most hens on nest. Some places the "good" part of the season starts later so therefore the "done" comes later.
But you do have exceptions, it is simple logic (later season, most breeding is done, hunter pressure, etc). Today was the first morning in TN I did not hear one gobble and did not hear any hens either. It appears just about every hen is on nest now (NW Dickson Co). Thursday morning my granddad heard two gobble behind the house and this morning they were silent, but we did see them around 8:30 and they were together and briskly feeding and looking for hens. Didnt try to hunt them because we had some other things to do.

Tomorrow morning I hope I find one of the exceptions because I am not "done".
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