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#3238996 - 05/04/13 06:06 PM A Pathway to citizenship.....
Fordman
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I am getting a little sick of that statement. Lets worry about the state of the country rather than how we can legally import more democrat votes.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57582886/obama-no-reason-immigration-reform-cant-pass/


Edited by Crappie Luck (05/04/13 06:20 PM)

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#3239014 - 05/04/13 06:30 PM Re: A Pathway to citizenship..... [Re: Fordman]
citico_tim
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Obama cannot be trusted. Seal the borders, then we'll talk. He doesn't need any new legislation to do that.
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#3239059 - 05/04/13 07:44 PM Re: A Pathway to citizenship..... [Re: citico_tim]
Wes Parrish
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How can we even THINK about creating more laws, when not only do we have a serious problem in keeping up with the thousands already on the books, but worse, most of our laws are only selectively enforced?

When laws are not enforced, people lose respect for the law, and this leads to "progressively" less compliance with existing law, less and less respect for the law, and the eventually outcome of a lawless society.

What we need is fewer laws in this land, and more respect for the ones we have.

 Originally Posted By: citico_tim
Obama cannot be trusted. Seal the borders, then we'll talk. He doesn't need any new legislation to do that.

EXACTLY.
All Obama is focusing on is buying the votes of illegals, simply by REWARDING them with citizenship for BREAKING our laws.

We ALREADY have a legal path to citizenship for people who enter our country legally.

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#3239095 - 05/04/13 08:42 PM Re: A Pathway to citizenship..... [Re: Wes Parrish]
farmin68
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We already have a pathway to citizenship in place. Unless it was temporarily suspended during WW1 and WW2, I'm pretty sure we always have.

That phrase is just another code word for we are determined to pass a bill that adds several million Democrats to the voting rolls.
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#3239262 - 05/05/13 09:00 AM Re: A Pathway to citizenship..... [Re: farmin68]
redblood
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i say make all on the path reside in california. they seem to be the ones belly aching about it. we will never see those electorals anyway.
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#3239371 - 05/05/13 10:53 AM Re: A Pathway to citizenship..... [Re: redblood]
Pic IN the Casa
TurdFarmer2.0
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We've replaced legitimate US History and Civics classes with Homosexuality 101. It's been going on for 40 years which means four generations that have no idea about our laws.

Now we are reaping the benefits of the liberal agenda. Yes, we already have laws but four generations never were taught that.
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#3240235 - 05/06/13 09:50 AM Re: A Pathway to citizenship..... [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
savageman
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if you want to stop illegal crossing of our border. stop giving illegals jobs and govt support. They dont cross the line for nothing. Republicans business owners love to get the cheap labor.
that's why they keep saying close the border. They know it won't work. They refuse to talk about e-verify to stop them from working and coming here.

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#3240276 - 05/06/13 10:31 AM Re: A Pathway to citizenship..... [Re: savageman]
MUP
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I thought Rubio was a big proponent of the e-verify system?
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#3240320 - 05/06/13 11:37 AM Re: A Pathway to citizenship..... [Re: MUP]
Redfred16
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Immigration is easy to fix. Place a HUGE fine on anyone hiring illegals. Make it a felony after the 3rd time you are cought hiring a illegal. Then make it a felony to be caught in the country illegally, felony means no voting rights and no citizenship ever, 1 time illegal, you will never be allowed in legally again ever.

On top of that all illegals will work on a wall, 90 days hard labor before being sent back to thier country of origin. If you are caught again, it's 6 months and I'm talking GP medium tents, no AC, minimal rations(but plenty of water) and very hard labor. End the practice of anchor babies, any child born from an illegal will not have the birth rights of an American, they will be considered illegal as thier parents.

Then push governments to help stop illegal immigration by announcing that the cost to deport people back to thier home countries and the cost of thier time on the wall camps will be deducted from any and all funds promised or owed to that home country.

Watch how quick this ends the problem.
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#3240351 - 05/06/13 12:24 PM Re: A Pathway to citizenship..... [Re: savageman]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: savageman
if you want to stop illegal crossing of our border. stop giving illegals jobs and govt support. They dont cross the line for nothing.

Of course, with less incentives, illegals would be trying less often and with less fortitude to cross our borders illegally. While I agree with you on this, the rest of what you said was only the tip of an iceberg.

The main problem and the number one cause of all these illegals is the federal government so blatantly not enforcing our border laws ---- it is an open invitation to "come on over". This has become the number one reason our health care costs have soared. This has become the number one reason our prisons are full beyond capacity. And quite possibly, this could be the number one reason our nation has so much debt?

Don't believe me?
Check out what portion of all the people incarcerated in American prisons and jails are in our country illegally. Then note the shear number of them. Then consider that each costs more annually to feed, cloth, shelter, and secure than the average working American earns annually. Oh, they also get totally free healthcare, better than what most U.S. citizens are receiving.

But before they were incarcerated, what was the monetary costs of their crimes? The costs to our judicial system to give them fair trials? All of this is being paid by the American taxpayer.

Could go on and on about the cost of allowing foreign nationals to cross our borders illegally . . . . . .

But WHY is the federal government so "inviting"? Even to to the point of preventing border states from enforcing federal laws against crossing our borders illegally?

More puzzling, why are the big labor unions so supportive of those who break our laws and come into our country illegally? Doesn't increasing cheap labor run counter to what union members are paying their union leaders to represent (i.e. higher wages for union members)??? Especially with the prospects of millions of illegals being granted amnesty, won't these new "citizens" be taking many of the union jobs???

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