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#3236422 - 05/01/13 03:39 PM Rural King deer feed recall
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#3236440 - 05/01/13 04:00 PM Re: Rural King deer feed recall [Re: Poser]
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WHAT?! Corn contaminated with potentially deadly aflatoxin being packaged and sold as "deer corn?!" VERY common practice and a major reason not to feed this stuff to wildlife.
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#3236442 - 05/01/13 04:02 PM Re: Rural King deer feed recall [Re: Poser]
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I wonder what other brands the same batch of corn was sold under?
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#3236455 - 05/01/13 04:14 PM Re: Rural King deer feed recall [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
I wonder what other brands the same batch of corn was sold under?


Just remember that every state has different laws about corn/grains tainted with aflatoxin. Some states have very strict rules about how it can be sold (not for animal feed), hence tainted corn/grains is transport from strictly regulated states and dump onto the animal/wildlife feed market in states with less strict laws.

Again, this is an amazingly common practice.
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#3236462 - 05/01/13 04:23 PM Re: Rural King deer feed recall [Re: BSK]
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It is also well documented that aflatoxin infected corn can have a dramatic effect on survival in turkeys, especially the poults.

Yet another reason I would like to see feeding of all wildlife outlawed unless you are within 50yds of your personal dwelling.
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#3236685 - 05/01/13 08:32 PM Re: Rural King deer feed recall [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
It is also well documented that aflatoxin infected corn can have a dramatic effect on survival in turkeys, especially the poults.

Yet another reason I would like to see feeding of all wildlife outlawed unless you are within 50yds of your personal dwelling.


What difference would that make. it is either bad for them or not.
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#3236732 - 05/01/13 09:11 PM Re: Rural King deer feed recall [Re: Bone Collector]
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 Originally Posted By: Bone Collector
 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
It is also well documented that aflatoxin infected corn can have a dramatic effect on survival in turkeys, especially the poults.

Yet another reason I would like to see feeding of all wildlife outlawed unless you are within 50yds of your personal dwelling.


What difference would that make. it is either bad for them or not.


It would allow people to have bird feeders, but no one would be running trail cams or hunting over it. There would not be any doubt about food placed in the woods where you are hunting. That is what difference it would make. The prospect of outlawing bird feeders would bring all the little old ladies that like to watch birds in their back yard out of the wood work.

BTW, it is also well documented that bird feeders are terrible for song birds, but you can't fight the entire populace at once now can you?
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#3236915 - 05/02/13 07:30 AM Re: Rural King deer feed recall [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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What Diehard Hunter said.
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#3236927 - 05/02/13 07:53 AM Re: Rural King deer feed recall [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
 Originally Posted By: Bone Collector
 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
It is also well documented that aflatoxin infected corn can have a dramatic effect on survival in turkeys, especially the poults.

Yet another reason I would like to see feeding of all wildlife outlawed unless you are within 50yds of your personal dwelling.

What difference would that make. it is either bad for them or not.

It would allow people to have bird feeders, but no one would be running trail cams or hunting over it. . . . . . . . The prospect of outlawing bird feeders would bring all the little old ladies that like to watch birds in their back yard out of the wood work.

BTW, it is also well documented that bird feeders are terrible for song birds, but you can't fight the entire populace at once now can you?

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My opinion has only become stronger over time, that those who regularly "feed" deer corn (per feeders or scattering on the ground), and talking specifically about TENNESSEE, are doing more harm than good, both to "their" deer (and turkey), and to their ability to become better hunters. Show me a guy hunting over a corn pile, and I'll show you a guy who is more a shooter than a hunter, and he's sabotaging his own opportunity to become a more accomplished hunter.

There is another issue that few have considered: Increased predation that comes when one regularly feeds wildlife in a specific spot. Having a deer feeder out in the woods is a great way to lose more button bucks to bobcat, dog, and coyote predation ----- and you'll never know about most of your losses.

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#3236930 - 05/02/13 08:03 AM Re: Rural King deer feed recall [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
 Originally Posted By: Bone Collector
 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
It is also well documented that aflatoxin infected corn can have a dramatic effect on survival in turkeys, especially the poults.

Yet another reason I would like to see feeding of all wildlife outlawed unless you are within 50yds of your personal dwelling.


What difference would that make. it is either bad for them or not.


It would allow people to have bird feeders, but no one would be running trail cams or hunting over it. There would not be any doubt about food placed in the woods where you are hunting. That is what difference it would make. The prospect of outlawing bird feeders would bring all the little old ladies that like to watch birds in their back yard out of the wood work.

BTW, it is also well documented that bird feeders are terrible for song birds, but you can't fight the entire populace at once now can you?


I guess I was looking at it like you were saying go ahead and put corn out so long as it is within 50 feet of your house. If that is what you are saying, I don't see the point, as it will still get the toxins into the herd and people in the country shoot off their back/front porch. \:D
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