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#3236584 - 05/01/13 06:55 PM 2013 Harvest Comparison
Boll Weevil
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Out of curiosity I checked the online harvest record for my county to see how we've fared so far in comparison to years past...yikes! \:o

For the whole state 27,784 have been checked in thus far. We were right at (or well over) 30,000 birds at this time for the last 3 years. For the season total there were 33,789 checked in 2012, 34,026 in 2011, and record 37,000ish birds in 2010.

There's still some time to hunt but I wonder if we'll even come up with the few thousand birds to break 30,000...much less another 10,000 birds to be anywhere near a record.

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#3236619 - 05/01/13 07:36 PM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: Boll Weevil]
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Where can I find this info? Curious about Madison county.
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#3236623 - 05/01/13 07:41 PM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: SEC]
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 Originally Posted By: SEC
Where can I find this info? Curious about Madison county.

Right here. Put your date range in, pick a critter, and county.

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#3236674 - 05/01/13 08:15 PM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: Boll Weevil]
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For the past two seasons I haven't seen near as many birds and not sure why. That said I wouldn't mind if they scaled the limit back to 3 if not 2.
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#3236688 - 05/01/13 08:33 PM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: Gravey]
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I would be glad to see them bring the limit down as well
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#3236694 - 05/01/13 08:37 PM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: Gravey]
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 Originally Posted By: Gravey
For the past two seasons I haven't seen near as many birds and not sure why.


It may likely have more to do with a couple of years of crappy hatches vs. harvest and can be VERY isolated by region. Another thing to consider is the ratio of gobblers to hens in a typical harvest year. The fall harvest (including hens) here on the west side is miniscule and in the spring 1 tom can take care of a herd of hens. With all the gals running around, if they had successful nests...one good hatch could negate years of poor hatches.

Around here, that's just what we got last year. Dang jakes and jennies everywhere (and hopefully makin'biddies every chance they get). Next year could be off the hook!

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#3236721 - 05/01/13 09:00 PM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: Boll Weevil]
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Some areas of the state have been going through this for years, to the point your lucky if you even hear a gobble in your county. People have laughed at me, called me a whiner, and told me I didn't know what I was talking. And its always people from different parts of the state who haven't experienced it. I hope it gets better and doesn't happen but with declines like that is say it won't be long before a lot of people get a taste of what I've been talking about.
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#3236733 - 05/01/13 09:12 PM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: Rockhound]
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 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
People have laughed at me, called me a whiner, and told me I didn't know what I was talking. And its always people from different parts of the state who haven't experienced it.

True...and not too much else to add to your comments, Rockhound. We simply MUST manage the resource locally and recognize that it can vary a whole lot from place to place.

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#3236740 - 05/01/13 09:15 PM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: Rockhound]
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Look at all the low lying counties there numbers are very low. I myself pretty much only have west TN bottom land to hunt and after the bad hatch in 2010-2011 we have fewer birds than I have seen in 15 years. With a 4 bird limit we never have any carry over birds in other words for the most part the two year old birds get wiped out every year in my area. With a 2 bird limit I cant help but think we would have a few 3 or 4 year old birds to hunt this year instead all we have is a few super jakes doing all the gobbling,strutting and breeding. What I am saying is how can the low lying counties have the same limits as middle TN.

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#3236916 - 05/02/13 07:31 AM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: Gobblrgttr]
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Turkey populations seem to vary greatly from year to year within very localized areas within any particular county, even when the turkey population for the county is the opposite of how it may appear to those hunting a localized area within a county.

Some of my personal worst years turkey hunting are often some of the best for the particular county hunting. Some of my personal best years turkey hunting are often some of the worst for the particular county hunting.

I've concluded that turkeys move around more over the course of a year than many hunters think. Where more or less turkeys end up during April (and particularly during the 1st two weekends of turkey season), may have more to do with recent weather patterns and food supply/preferences, plus whether spring is running a little early or late, than the actual turkey population for a county.

This year, spring has been late, and gobbler groups have been later than usual in breaking up and scattering across more vast areas of a county. On April 23, 2013, I walked up on a gobbler group of at least 7 birds --- that's something I more typically see in mid to late March.

My point is that when males are still in bachelor groups, they can't be scattered across as much territory, say within a 5 to 10 square-mile area. Take your favorite "spot" to turkey hunt. Wherever that is, if you place yourself in the middle of an area that's 2 miles in every direction, that's 16 square miles of territory (if 4 miles long x 4 miles wide). If there were only 7 longbeards within those 16 square miles, imagine your odds of seeing one if they were all within a single one square instead of being scattered over many. On the other hand, should your favorite "spot" be within that square mile that the entire group of gobblers is still hanging out . . . . . you may be seeing lots of gobblers.

This is just my opinion, so it is what it is.
I think this year's statewide turkey harvest is lower (so far, compared to prior years) mainly because of less turkey hunting. In particular, the intensity of hunters hunting collectively is often guided by their first outing or two for the season. If they are disappointed, they may not go hunting any more until the next year. If they see or hear something that excites them, they may hunt a lot more and a lot harder during the next few weeks after the opening weekend.

Note that in most areas the juvenile (jake) harvest is typically running between 10 and 25% of the spring turkey harvest. We wouldn't have that high of a carry-over of birds becoming longbeards each year if we were wiping out most of the males each spring.

 Originally Posted By: Gobblrgttr
I would be glad to see them bring the limit down as well

Again, just my personal opinion, but I also wish the spring limit were no more than 3, and would even prefer 2 rather than the current 4. I believe more hunters would enjoy better quality turkey hunting (hear more gobbling, see more longbeards, and more hunters would kill one or two), for some of the same reasons I favor a 2-buck deer limit over an 11-buck deer limit.

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