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#3254160 - 05/24/13 09:47 AM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: AT Hiker]
woodsman87
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 Originally Posted By: AT Hiker
 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
This is all a few miles south of Highway 64. You get north of Pulaski, birds everywhere all the time.


I know you say good habitat all around, but has there been any major timbering or burns in the areas that could have caused an issue?

What about increase in predators, be it wild critters or an increase of dogs running loose?


What about any major agriculture changes?

I'm not doubting your evaluation of the habitat at all, just curious if something major has happened that you never thought about affecting the population. We are having the same decline in SW Dickson County, not as drastic as yours though. I have been trying to look at all angels but I cannot come up with anything, other than an slight increase in timber harvest nothing major.


Nothing major in our general area of any kind except non-native animals.

I have said this on these population threads earlier. Since 2007, we have had fewer turkeys each year. 2006 was the first year we started seeing feral hogs throghout north AL and south TN. Do not remember the exact year, but armidillos started showing up around this time as well. We have had coyotes, skunks, coons, possums, hawks, and barred owls as long as I can remember. I would think that these same invasive species, besides hawks and owls, live in much of the state of TN. I just think there is more going on with just these animals. Very wet springs early summers we have had the past several years with the exception of last year.

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#3254164 - 05/24/13 09:51 AM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: woodsman87]
woodsman87
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Another animal that I just thought of, the Great Horned Owl. I started seeing these a few years ago too. I am pretty observent while I hunt, whether its deer or turkey or whatever. I have hunted these places for years, I can remember a few years ago while in a deer stand I heard a noise that sounded like some sort of owl I have never heard before. It eventually flew next to me and it happened to be a great horned owl.
I am not a scientist of any kind, but I thought these lived up in the northern Appalachians? I wonder if those are killing turkeys? If so, I still don't think it could be the one and only main factor.
Anybody else seen or heard of these?

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#3254183 - 05/24/13 10:13 AM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: woodsman87]
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You make mention of habitat but do you have some thick cover for nesting? On some of my places the turkeys shift from feeding areas in early spring to nesting areas closer to the end of season, in some instances this shift in pattern will cause some of my places to not have any birds either at the beginning or the end of season depending on the habitat on that particular place. Ideally you would like to have both so the birds would not leave.....I am not sure what is going on in your area but I am really surprised no one from the twra has chimed in on any of these threads.
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#3254197 - 05/24/13 10:28 AM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: Roost 1]
woodsman87
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Yes there are thickets around. I agree that the key to a good turkey place is having good nesting habitat. I have about 30 acres of pasture that I have cows in just to help make some money. We are thinking about selling the cows, and planting pines instead of using cows for some sort of income. If we planted pines it may help with more suitable nesting habitat.
I don't know why TWRA hasn't stated anything.

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#3254257 - 05/24/13 12:08 PM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: woodsman87]
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Same Argument, different species. Same people or people with the mindset to trophy hunt making the argument. I guess i should mention I'm not surprised. That being said, I believe that there are ares in this state that the limit needs to be dropped. Maybe even on both deer and turkey, but not the entire state.

The only real option IMO is to do like others said and make units based on species densities, hunter density, and available hunting land. Davidson, Rutherford, Sumner, Williamson, and Wilson County for instance should not be changed. JMO. those areas have tons of deer and turkey and not as many hunters, nor do the hunters have as many places to go. WHY SHOULD WE SUFFER because your area that is covered up with hunters (most of them seasoned) is now suffering because you shot all the birds, nature was unkind, or a combination of those things???

and before someone says that Williamson's kill #'s aren't that high, I would bet money it is because the land is being deer hunted, but not turkey hunted. I see more turkeys on the way to work than you can imagine. I personally turkey hunt Wilson and Rutherford though and can't remember, aside from opening day, not seeing a bird (yes i am counting hens as seeing a bird), but most times I saw male birds too.


Edited by Bone Collector (05/24/13 12:10 PM)
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#3254417 - 05/24/13 05:49 PM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: Bone Collector]
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You know we are starting to get armadillos real bad in my area, there seems to be a correlation with them and the drop in turkeys. Not saying its a cause and effect, just an observation.

I also have not witnessed many good hatches in the past several years, but we have had some cattle farms around us turn fallow which is good because of the extra cover, so the young critters may hang around them more. Our deer numbers have gone up but turkey numbers are down.
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#3254436 - 05/24/13 06:45 PM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: AT Hiker]
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Our area has a great all around habitat as far as feeding roosting and nesting but its not getting any better. WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO suffer because a lot of hunters are greedy.
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#3254502 - 05/24/13 08:53 PM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: Rockhound]
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Sounds like you need to find some different "areas" to hunt. ;\)
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#3254511 - 05/24/13 09:05 PM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: ]
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I do but I shouldn't have drive an hour and a half to hunt, since I'm looking formore spots, when you taking me?
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#3254560 - 05/24/13 10:35 PM Re: 2013 Harvest Comparison [Re: Rockhound]
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 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
I do but I shouldn't have drive an hour and a half to hunt, since I'm looking formore spots, when you taking me?
Surely there must be some public land in these counties that has turkeys to hunt.

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