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#3235546 - 04/30/13 12:24 PM Rage Hypodermic
Bootlegger
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I ordered a new pack this morning. Going to try them out. I'm a Swhacker & Muzzy guy....lol. I liked the looks of them. They cost more than the chisel tips. Gave $38 shipped for these.
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#3236107 - 05/01/13 07:47 AM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Bootlegger]
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Good luck with them. Let us know how they work. I just can't fork over close to $40.00 for 3 broadheads any more.

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#3236295 - 05/01/13 11:51 AM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Spikes Tactical]
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The msrp was like $45....that's crazy. I like my $26 swhackers...lol
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#3236418 - 05/01/13 03:36 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Bootlegger]
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I've seen some talk on the forums about them. Myself...I've learned to stay away from anything with Rage on the package. But that's just me.
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#3236714 - 05/01/13 08:53 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Crow Terminator]
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I've had great luck with the Rage Chisel Tips. I only shoot Muzzy Mx3's and Swhackers most of the time. Gonna try this out...hopefully they will be as nasty as the Chisel tips were...lol.
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#3255746 - 05/27/13 02:31 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Bootlegger]
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Im sure they are going to be awesome! I shot chisel tips last year. I killed 4 deer with them last year. Over 20 in last 6 years with a rage broadhead and never had any go over 40 yards with massive blood trails. People will say this and that about penetration. Blah blah blah! Its all about shot placement! I have a 26" draw length and shoot 62#. I have shot thru shoulders too, although i dobt reccommend that with any broadhead! I live the new design bc of the stainless ferrul instead alunimum. Good luck!
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#3256807 - 05/28/13 11:05 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Crow Terminator]
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 Originally Posted By: Crow Terminator
I've seen some talk on the forums about them. Myself...I've learned to stay away from anything with Rage on the package. But that's just me.


I used to be (4yrs ago) die hard Rage until I started having little to no blood trails after good shot placement and later found out they replaced the blade pins with another to save money. I was done after that. Just me but I'd rather want a Rage than to buy one. I hope you have the best of luck with them


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#3256813 - 05/28/13 11:23 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Poleaxe]
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Put a rage in his cage and you will have venison on the table,i started shooting the 3 blade a few yrs back and if you want to watch your deer go down in your sight give them a try,Out of the last 9 deer 8 of them i seen fall from my stand.The proof is in my freezer and on my wall.
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#3257269 - 05/29/13 03:02 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: TENN.BOY]
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Used Rage broadheads for several years and killed several deer including my first deer with them. I got tired of them flopping around, always having to check the o ring etc. Also, the blades themselves are very low quality steel and difficult to sharpen and I seldom got pass throughs. I used to defend them, but now I'm in the "they are junk" camp. I went old school with some single forged broadheads and I am much happier now.
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#3257430 - 05/29/13 06:45 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Poser]
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The Hypodermics don't have the O-ring...that is what I like about them. I shoot Swhackers most of the time..but have had great luck with Rage. Some nasty blood trails. Not sure how anyone don't get a good blood trail with them...lol.
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#3257431 - 05/29/13 06:47 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Living2Hunt]
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 Originally Posted By: Living2Hunt
Im sure they are going to be awesome! I shot chisel tips last year. I killed 4 deer with them last year. Over 20 in last 6 years with a rage broadhead and never had any go over 40 yards with massive blood trails. People will say this and that about penetration. Blah blah blah! Its all about shot placement! I have a 26" draw length and shoot 62#. I have shot thru shoulders too, although i dobt reccommend that with any broadhead! I live the new design bc of the stainless ferrul instead alunimum. Good luck!
I agree...love the no 0 rings as well.
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#3258008 - 05/30/13 01:30 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Bootlegger]
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 Originally Posted By: Bootlegger
The Hypodermics don't have the O-ring...that is what I like about them. I shoot Swhackers most of the time..but have had great luck with Rage. Some nasty blood trails. Not sure how anyone don't get a good blood trail with them...lol.


Another thing with the Rage's is that the blades often get bent beyond repair after hitting bone. I've seen blades bent and severely knicked.
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#3258040 - 05/30/13 02:15 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Poser]
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i dont buy all the rage hating crap! shot buck from 18 yards on ground entered low neck high brisket (ohh no a frontal shot with a bow!!!) arrow was hanging out butt by the fletchings, deer ran total of 28 yards this was with rage 2 blade a 55lb pse brute x.blood looked like it had been poured out of bucket.every angle that i have put a rage through a deer it has been out the other side with a huge hole on both sides!!!i do limit my shots to 35 yards and have never had problem with 55lb and rage 2 blade!! let the hateing begin lol
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#3258844 - 05/31/13 05:55 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: knightrider]
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 Originally Posted By: knightrider
i dont buy all the rage hating crap! shot buck from 18 yards on ground entered low neck high brisket (ohh no a frontal shot with a bow!!!) arrow was hanging out butt by the fletchings, deer ran total of 28 yards this was with rage 2 blade a 55lb pse brute x.blood looked like it had been poured out of bucket.every angle that i have put a rage through a deer it has been out the other side with a huge hole on both sides!!!i do limit my shots to 35 yards and have never had problem with 55lb and rage 2 blade!! let the hateing begin lol


No hating from me...lol. I've had great luck with them. I shoot Swhackers more and lots hate them...lol. All the new heads like Rage, Killzone and others seem to work great to me. I've never had an issue with a Mechanical head. I don't like the over the top heads though...but that is just me. I don't how anyone could shoot a Rage and not have a nasty blood trail. I think it's one of those things where someone hears something bad...then gets on the wagon...lol.
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#3258854 - 05/31/13 06:14 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Bootlegger]
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 Originally Posted By: Bootlegger
 Originally Posted By: knightrider
i dont buy all the rage hating crap! shot buck from 18 yards on ground entered low neck high brisket (ohh no a frontal shot with a bow!!!) arrow was hanging out butt by the fletchings, deer ran total of 28 yards this was with rage 2 blade a 55lb pse brute x.blood looked like it had been poured out of bucket.every angle that i have put a rage through a deer it has been out the other side with a huge hole on both sides!!!i do limit my shots to 35 yards and have never had problem with 55lb and rage 2 blade!! let the hateing begin lol


No hating from me...lol. I've had great luck with them. I shoot Swhackers more and lots hate them...lol. All the new heads like Rage, Killzone and others seem to work great to me. I've never had an issue with a Mechanical head. I don't like the over the top heads though...but that is just me. I don't how anyone could shoot a Rage and not have a nasty blood trail. I think it's one of those things where someone hears something bad...then gets on the wagon...lol.


No hating from me either....try utter disgust and hellfire and brimstones for the darn things. Used them twice when they first came out, even though I knew better. First was admittedly a poor shot that was too far back,a liver shot that left virtually no blood trail and the doe ran off with the darn thing inside of her—it can't even penetrate a gut shot...LOL (hate on that). Second, was a good hit right in the crease—once again....virtually no blood and no exit and the doe exited stage left with my arrow and she ran 400 yards. It appeared only one blade opened from the size of the hole. Got home threw the other in trash and trash them every chance I get—the only thing they do good is marketing IMO.
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#3259010 - 05/31/13 10:19 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: TNDeerGuy]
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#3259123 - 06/01/13 08:25 AM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: UTGrad]
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All I can speak from is experience I have had...and mine was nasty holes,entry & exit on all of mine and bloodtrails. I have only shot the Chisel tips so far. I'm sure I'll have the same great luck with the Hypodermics. Not sure what kinda bow everyone is shooting...but I would not suggest a low poundage slow shooting bow.
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#3259505 - 06/01/13 08:39 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Bootlegger]
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Ive shot over 20 deer since 07 with them. Never had one problem. I shoot 62 pounds and mine pass thru almost all the time. Its all about shot placment and ke. Most shoot too light of an arrow. I shoot epics. 26" arrow. Most people that make bad shots blame the broadhead. There all made to kill if u hit the deer where ur suppose too! And i shapern my blades too! I get alot of use out of mine. Ive killed 4 yotes and 4 turkeys with them too. All died quick! SHOT PLACEMENT!
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#3259507 - 06/01/13 08:43 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: UTGrad]
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 Originally Posted By: UTGrad
Fear the Reaper lol





Ut, have i not given u enough proof to shoot a rage!! Lol! That grim is a good broadhead too!

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#3259544 - 06/01/13 09:22 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Living2Hunt]
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 Originally Posted By: Living2Hunt
Ive shot over 20 deer since 07 with them. Never had one problem. I shoot 62 pounds and mine pass thru almost all the time. Its all about shot placment and ke. Most shoot too light of an arrow. I shoot epics. 26" arrow. Most people that make bad shots blame the broadhead. There all made to kill if u hit the deer where ur suppose too! And i shapern my blades too! I get alot of use out of mine. Ive killed 4 yotes and 4 turkeys with them too. All died quick! SHOT PLACEMENT!


Couldn't agree more..!
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#3260967 - 06/03/13 10:17 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Bootlegger]
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I have never and I mean ever shot a deer with a rage that didnt leave a a blood trail like it was hit with an axe. IMO the rage leaves a path of absolute destruction. If I ever have a bad experience with them I will change, but so far you couldnt pay me to shot anything else. The deer I have shot, look like they have had a chainsaw run into them.
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#3261029 - 06/04/13 01:38 AM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: DMAG]
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Man oh man, there sure are some Rage fanboys on here ain't they lol. The TV "pro staff" shooters are reason enough for me not to shoot them.

Broadheads are suppose to kill via ultra sharp blades by hemorrhaging of arteries and blood vessels...not by tearing hide or ripping flesh. Every Rage I have ever felt of, wasn't really that sharp out of the package and required sharpening to suit me (as in cutting a taunt rubber band by just touching it).

So take the design of the Rage...which is actually an old design by Rocky Mtn Broadheads, called the Snyper...and put ultra sharp thicker blades on it...do away with the stupid o-rings...and you have something worth shooting. That would be the NAP Killzone. \:\) I bought a pack of them last yr and they were perhaps the sharpest out of pack mechanical broadheads I've ever bought. Zero touch up from me...straight out of the pack and into the arrow.

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#3261084 - 06/04/13 06:41 AM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Crow Terminator]
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hard not to be a fanboy when they have treated me so good!!!
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#3261368 - 06/04/13 01:21 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Spikes Tactical]
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 Originally Posted By: Spikes Tactical
Good luck with them. Let us know how they work. I just can't fork over close to $40.00 for 3 broadheads any more.

JayP



I was at BPS the other day killing some time and took a peak at the Rage Hypodermic broadheads - they look pretty slick.

I will admit, last year I purchased some of the regular Rage broadheads because I had a $25 gift card and $10 reward card at Dicks Sporting Goods.

I have shot one and made a good shot on the deer - it went less than 30 yards with a great blood trail. The blades on the broadhead were all mangled up as they must of hit bone.

Those Rage must be a one-time use broadheads.

Again - good luck with them. If they work for you and make you happy that is all that really matters.

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#3261671 - 06/04/13 09:05 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Spikes Tactical]
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I don't care what they shoot on TV...heck I don't even got any station that shows hunting...lol. Now the Chisel tips were one and done...thats for sure. I like the Hypodermics more though...like the no rubber O-Ring. I shoot 3 kinds of heads. Muzzy's Swhacker, and Rage. Everyone of them leave a nasty blood trail 99% of the time. As far as sharp...I've never seen a blade that I haven't sharpened on some before I hunted with it. I've killed more with my Swhackers than any mechanical I have ever used though. Only killed a handful with the Rage Chisel tips. Won't use them anymore since I got the Hypodermics though.
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#3263708 - 06/07/13 07:49 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Bootlegger]
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X2^ chisel was awesome compared to origonal which i never had problems with. The hyperdermic is my gavorite so far. Cant wait to see how they do. Im not sure why everyone hates the o rings? Never bothered me? Mine still worked perfect.
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#3263818 - 06/08/13 04:59 AM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Living2Hunt]
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Have never lost a deer with a rage and never not had a blood trail that a blind man could follow. I have shot around 20 deer with them, coons, ground hogs, rabbits and squirrels. Only lost sight of 2 deer that I can recall and the only reason I lost sight is because I was in the thick stuff. Good in my book until I have a bad experience with them. Also, only 1 time on a deer that I didn't have a pass through and that was a frontal shot but deer dropped in sight.
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#3263828 - 06/08/13 05:41 AM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: hunter0925]
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Was not a fan of them until I saw first hand what they do to a deer and good God it was in real. I will shoot them. But on the other hand I have heard some absolute horror stories about them. Just hope it doesn't happen to me!
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#3263847 - 06/08/13 07:16 AM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: deerhunter10]
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The O-Rings are disliked because on the Rage broadhead, the little notch/groove that the O-Ring sets on to hold the blades in place, is too small, and it doesn't take much for the o-ring to slip off of it and then your blades are sliding around and not being held in place. On the first pack of Rages I had, ever time I got to the tree stand or blind, I had to pull arrows out of my quiver to slide the o-ring back on. This may or may not have been addressed since then, but I know on the first pack of them I tried, it was a pain in the rear.

I will say this and you can take it however you want to take it. Bow hunting and bow shooting are a huge part of my life. Most all of my hunting buddies and tournament buddies hunt...and hunt all kinds of animals with a bow from all over the country. From elk and moose, to bull frogs and everything in between. None of them...I repeat...NONE of them that I know that are serious about hunting and bow shooting, shoot a Rage broadhead. Most all have tried them...but none of them stuck with them. But the folks I know that pick their bow up around late August-early September and bow hunt a weekend or two out of the year...nearly all of them hunt with a Rage and swear by them. That is saying a lot IMO.

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#3263926 - 06/08/13 11:12 AM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Crow Terminator]
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how is that saying a lot? I have never lost a deer with a rage head, but that makes me stupid for using because they work for me!!! wow thanks, you don't know as many things as you think chief!! I shoot as much as any one on here or pretty close I would say ,and have been shooting for the last 23 years and I have shorter blood trails that lead to a deer with a massive hole In both sides of it!!
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#3264004 - 06/08/13 02:42 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: knightrider]
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Very well stated Crow! All but one person I know that swear by Rage use these because of the wide margin of error due to the cutting diameter, that they believe makes up for their lack of practice/proficiency with the weapon, which is what your "alot" statement was leaning to if I'm correct in my interpretation of your post—just to clear it up for some \:\) .

knightrider, if they work for you, and I'm glad they do, and you have confidence in them, then by all means use them—I've said it before, and I'll say it again....go with what you have the most confidence in, for that is they key to becoming a successful archer. However, do not discredit those of us that have had and/or seen very bad things from them, or issues that surround the use that we have witnessed—we are entitled to give our negative opinion, and what we have seen, just as much as your entitled to give your side....however fanboyish it is LOL \:D .

This is a public forum, and many open-minded/inexperienced archers may be gathering information and they need the truth from people that have used them—good or bad, so they can come to a conclusion about what equipment they would like to try. In all honesty, it would not hurt my feelings at all if every mechanical broadhead were banned, and just go with the fixed blade heads were it is all in the archers ability—no one has never heard of a fixed blade failing to open, or opening prematurely. \:\)
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#3264014 - 06/08/13 03:03 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: hunter0925]
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 Originally Posted By: hunter0925
Have never lost a deer with a rage and never not had a blood trail that a blind man could follow. I have shot around 20 deer with them, coons, ground hogs, rabbits and squirrels. Only lost sight of 2 deer that I can recall and the only reason I lost sight is because I was in the thick stuff. Good in my book until I have a bad experience with them. Also, only 1 time on a deer that I didn't have a pass through and that was a frontal shot but deer dropped in sight.


the last 3 lost deer I have been in on were hit with a rage.
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#3264150 - 06/08/13 08:18 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: stik]
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I shoot a whole lot don't shoot to many tournaments but I do consider myself a very serious bow hunter. so I personally I don't think you have a valid argument with that statement. but that's just me though. im I saying they are the best no but every broad head I have shot have there pros and cons. and I have shot a whole lot and tried a whole lot. and its just a matter of finding one that works with your set up and one that you trust. and as of now I trust rage (for now) n.a.p spit fire and the trusty g5 fix blades. but every single broad head out there as a down fall or two. just my two cents. but tndeerguy is right its nice seeing everyone opinion about them. again they haven't failed me but it sure does make me a little worried about them.
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#3264260 - 06/08/13 11:53 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: deerhunter10]
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You fanboys are too easy to stir up \:\)

I've been bowhunting for 20+ years. I don't know everything about bows or bow hunting...but I know enough to have podium finished in national 3D tournaments and have ASA and IBO state titles over the yrs. I'm not the most serious but I am way more serious than the average Joe that may shoot a few hundred arrows a year at most.

I've killed deer with Rage broadheads myself. The first one I killed, I was blown away by the gore on the ground. The second one I hit in nearly the same spot, and the blood was spotty at best. Most of the bleeding on that particular deer was internal...the whole chest cavity was filled with blood. Had I not of been decent at tracking a deer via kicked up leaves, hoove prints, etc, I might not have even found it because there were times there was 20+ yards between spots of blood smaller than a dime. The third deer I shot with them is what done me in on them. I hit it a touch high but still in the rib cage under the spine...where all the good stuff is anyway. My bow was 70# draw shooting a 415 total weight arrow...Easton N-Fused Axis shaft in 340 spine. The shot was 17 yards. I watched in amazement as my shaft did not blow through that deer like hot butter. It didn't even drive up to the fletching. Half and half was sticking out when that deer took off. I watched it and listened for it to crash...never heard the crash. I gave it 2 hrs before climbing down. About 40 yards into the tracking job of very small droplets...I found half of my arrow where she had broke it running between two saplings. Long story short. I started tracking this deer at around 11 a.m. or so. I found it about 4:00 that evening after crawling through a clearcut on every deer trail I could find. I found her piled up on the other side of the clearcut near a tree that the tornados had blown down...some 300 yards from my last droplet of blood. I had honestly given up and was trying to find my way back to my stand and not having to go through the clearcut again and saw white belly laying. Here is the pic of the hit. Now you tell me...what would be in this spot, that would hinder 70# and over 400 grns from not blowing right through this deer at 17 yards?



Once again I will leave you with something to ponder on:

I'm friends with the owners of two archery shops locally. Both of them carry the Rage in their stores. They have a choice of anything in the store that they could shoot....of all the brands they carry, they could shoot any of them. Neither of them shoot a Rage. They'll sell them to folks and even give their honest opinion of them to those that ask before hand (both have really negative things to say about them) but you wont ever find one on the end of their arrows during hunting season. Think about that.

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#3264416 - 06/09/13 09:57 AM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Crow Terminator]
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I am sure there have some deer lost with a rage that were the broadheads fault. However, I would also guess that on the majority of deer lost shot with rage, the broadhead was not a fault. I would say a lot are a bad shot where the shooter thinks he made a good shot but didn't or really has no idea where he hit the deer and doesn't want to admit to himself and his buddy's that he made a bad shot. So they just blame the head. IMO I would say this is the case with the majority of all deer lost that were who with a mechanical head, not just rage. Also, if a lot of the deer are lost by people who pick up there bow and shoot it a few times before season & go hunting and make a bad shot, that isn't the broadheads fault. As I said before this is my opinion on what the majority of cases is, not all of them.
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#3264583 - 06/09/13 02:39 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: knightrider]
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For the people who shoot the COC & Chisel tip Rage...do you all not use the shock collars they come with? Just wondering. I did on my Chisel tips and they did very well. The extreme shock collar is all thats on the Hypodermics. I will try them out a few times this year and see how they do. I normally only shoot Muzzy Mx3's. Swhackers if I shoot mechanical heads. I've had great luck from Swhackers....and I only shoot the 1.75" 100gr. ones. I've only been Bow hunting 20 years or so...i'm not a big time tournament shooter, master of disaster deer hunter or anything like that. I just hunt and end of killing about 5 a year or so. I have seen good shots with all kinds of Broadheads and the deer run much farther than you would think and not much blood. The worst heads I have truly had any Bad experience with was those over the top mechanical ones. I think they were called Grim Reapers or something to that nature. I mainly shoot Muzzy & Swhacker. Didn't think this thread would of turned into a bashing not it all type of thing or I wouldn't have posted it...lmao! The way I see it...shoot what works best for you!
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#3265147 - 06/10/13 10:16 AM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Bootlegger]
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I have never shot a Rage or any mechanical for that matter. I have helped many hunters track their deer that was shot with a mechanical of some sort. I have yet to find any deer that was shot with a mechanical head. I am not the greatest tracker out there but I have done my share of tracking and like to think of myself as a decent tracker. My opinion of mechanicals is just that "my opinion". I do think that most folks use them are using them for their lack of practice and their lack of having their bow tuned. For me I won't use them, ever. PERIOD.
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#3265166 - 06/10/13 10:35 AM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Toxophilite Phil]
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 Originally Posted By: Toxophilite Phil
I have never shot a Rage or any mechanical for that matter. I have helped many hunters track their deer that was shot with a mechanical of some sort. I have yet to find any deer that was shot with a mechanical head. I am not the greatest tracker out there but I have done my share of tracking and like to think of myself as a decent tracker. My opinion of mechanicals is just that "my opinion". I do think that most folks use them are using them for their lack of practice and their lack of having their bow tuned. For me I won't use them, ever. PERIOD.


Well said!! I'm not the best tracker but I am the guy my buddies will call or text when they need help tracking one. I have a pretty good track record for recovery when they had all but lost hope.

Bad hits are gonna happen with any broadhead you shoot and that's not the point I've been trying to make. All you can do is try to not take iffy shots, and minimize everything on your part that might cause a bad hit. However, it's not the bad hits I'm referring to that make me not a fanboy. It's the pretty good hits that are the eye openers IMO...the ones that if/when you find the deer, they had a horrible blood trail leading to them...that when you get to the deer you're scratching your head wondering why all the bleeding was internal, why the arrow didn't go through nothing but hide, rib bones, and vital organs with a somewhat heavy arrow and plenty of KE. It's so common of a problem that many outfitters wont allow the use of them on their properties...not just Rage but all mechanicals. Rage is just the poster child now because of the fanboy base.

My wife shoots a bow at 38 lbs with a 26.5" draw length. She shot completely through a 1.5 yr old 3 pointer at 25 yards with a Gold Tip Ultralite 600 shaft with an 85 grn Slick Trick on the front. If a 38# bow can do it, a 400+ grain arrow with 70# propelling it ought to not be a problem either when hitting the same area on a broadside deer...especially on a smaller bodied deer.

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#3265386 - 06/10/13 03:18 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Crow Terminator]
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I shoot year round and have a string and cable put on atleast once a year. I use to shoot asa when i was younger and hunt with my bow year round. I use rage for all my hunting. Never one problem! I dont use rage bc it allows to to miss a little. I use rage bc of the quick human kills and blood trails to help me recover the animal. Like i have stated before, every broadhead is made to kill. Shot placement is everything!
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#3265504 - 06/10/13 06:14 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Living2Hunt]
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 Originally Posted By: Living2Hunt
I shoot year round and have a string and cable put on atleast once a year. I use to shoot asa when i was younger and hunt with my bow year round. I use rage for all my hunting. Never one problem! I dont use rage bc it allows to to miss a little. I use rage bc of the quick human kills and blood trails to help me recover the animal. Like i have stated before, every broadhead is made to kill. Shot placement is everything!


Well said...I hunt with Muzzy Mx3's 90% of the time but the one's I have shot with Swhackers and the few with Rage fell over just as fast.
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#3265584 - 06/10/13 07:57 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Living2Hunt]
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 Originally Posted By: Living2Hunt
I shoot year round and have a string and cable put on atleast once a year. I use to shoot asa when i was younger and hunt with my bow year round. I use rage for all my hunting. Never one problem! I dont use rage bc it allows to to miss a little. I use rage bc of the quick human kills and blood trails to help me recover the animal. Like i have stated before, every broadhead is made to kill. Shot placement is everything!


I'm gonna stay away from you in the woods..something about you shooting a Rage and those quick "human" kills worries me lol

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#3266171 - 06/11/13 05:11 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: sneakybow]
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 Originally Posted By: sneakybow
 Originally Posted By: Living2Hunt
I shoot year round and have a string and cable put on atleast once a year. I use to shoot asa when i was younger and hunt with my bow year round. I use rage for all my hunting. Never one problem! I dont use rage bc it allows to to miss a little. I use rage bc of the quick human kills and blood trails to help me recover the animal. Like i have stated before, every broadhead is made to kill. Shot placement is everything!


I'm gonna stay away from you in the woods..something about you shooting a Rage and those quick "human" kills worries me lol


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#3268130 - 06/14/13 01:06 PM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Living2Hunt]
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Shot placement is everything. But it has been my experience with anything mechanical something is bound to fail. Yes I shoot a release and a compound bow. I check them every time I pick them up. The broadhead is the single most important piece of equipment you as a bowhunter uses. The second is the arrow because it is what delivers the head to do the work. So why leave it up to chance that "it may not open up" or "the blades opened up in flight". the expandable head is not new invention. I have expandable heads that were made in the 40's and 50's. Not one of them have stood the test of time. The Bear heads and Zwickeys have stood the test of time and are still around.
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#3268492 - 06/15/13 09:29 AM Re: Rage Hypodermic [Re: Toxophilite Phil]
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Shot placement is everything, but I'd prefer not to have my shot placement represented by cheap, flimsy Chinese steel.
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