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#3233056 - 04/27/13 11:28 AM Smokeless Powder Muzzleloading
IRISH HUNTER
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I would appreciate any recommendations for getting started.
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#3233080 - 04/27/13 11:51 AM Re: Smokeless Powder Muzzleloading [Re: IRISH HUNTER]
hayman
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Go to Dougs message board lots of information there
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#3233116 - 04/27/13 12:40 PM Re: Smokeless Powder Muzzleloading [Re: hayman]
fullstream
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 Originally Posted By: hayman
Go to Dougs message board lots of information there


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The cheapest way to get into it would be a 45-70 conversion.
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Edited by fullstream (04/27/13 12:48 PM)

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#3233157 - 04/27/13 01:42 PM Re: Smokeless Powder Muzzleloading [Re: fullstream]
pressfit
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Buy a savage...
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#3233172 - 04/27/13 02:00 PM Re: Smokeless Powder Muzzleloading [Re: pressfit]
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I'd also recommend getting a single shot 45-70 and haveing it threaded for a breech plug and haveing the barrel crowned.I'd pass on the savage 10ml.But i am a little biased,towards the 10ml,i must have gotten a lemon,cause I couldn't get mine to shoot any better than 2 inch groups at 100yds.
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#3233191 - 04/27/13 02:32 PM Re: Smokeless Powder Muzzleloading [Re: cecil30-30]
hayman
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Iwas not impressed by the Savage either. I tried several loads and bullets and never did under 2 inch groups either...
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#3234143 - 04/28/13 08:17 PM Re: Smokeless Powder Muzzleloading [Re: hayman]
Roost 1
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Love my Savage!!!!!!!!
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#3234210 - 04/28/13 09:16 PM Re: Smokeless Powder Muzzleloading [Re: Roost 1]
Tar12
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I have shot and set up a bunch of stock Savages...barrel quality can be a hit and miss proposition with them. Having said that I never had one that I could not get 1.5 @ 100 yds with. Some were easy and a few required a lot of tinkering to get that. There can be a rather large learning curve with the stock Savage.There is a learning curve with smokeless period.You have several options here....take a chance on a stock Savage(approx $600) and hope it shoots well and if it does not you either move it or invest another approx. $460 in a Pac-Nor barrel and then it will shoot lights out for sure to the tune of approx $1150 plus the price of whatever glass you put on it.Or you go with the aforementioned 45-70 route and guaranteed results out of the box so to speak and cheaper. And by all means visit Dougs and ask lots of questions as it is arguably the birth place of the Savage and smokeless shooting in general as we know it now.
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#3236783 - 05/01/13 10:02 PM Re: Smokeless Powder Muzzleloading [Re: Tar12]
ewc
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Tar12 is right - the Savage takes some work and thought.

I've said all along, it's not a gun for beginners.

If you can't understand the thought/science about a load vs. pressure and what it takes to create pressure - then you need to re-think the whole smokeless thing and just buy pellets and a wolverine.

I've never had a Savage that I did not make shoot moa or better. I've set up 9. MOA success with a Savage smokeless is easy.

For a challenge, Steve needs to get me a 7mm season (hint for scn).

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#3237198 - 05/02/13 02:05 PM Re: Smokeless Powder Muzzleloading [Re: ewc]
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I still want to build a 338 ml which is legal

Edited by Deer Assassin (05/02/13 02:05 PM)
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