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#3229245 - 04/23/13 09:02 AM Pine distance from fruit trees?
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A couple of years ago I planted a plot of apples and persimmons. They seem to be doing well.

They are on a hillside from a highway. Further back is a barn that is in view of the highway. It has been broken into twice in the last couple years.....as it appears an easy target of opportunity from the highway.

I intend to plan 50 loblollies on the barn side of the fruit trees to screen it from the road. I don't have a whole lot of space to work with, but enoght to get in the loblollies and leave a doublewide tractor lane between the trees and the barn. What is the least amount of space I should leave between the pines and the fruit trees, in order to keep the fruit trees healthy as the pines grow? Is 15' enough?

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#3229321 - 04/23/13 10:30 AM Re: Pine distance from fruit trees? [Re: pass-thru]
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What side are the pines gonna be on?Will they shade your fruit trees?
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#3229430 - 04/23/13 12:46 PM Re: Pine distance from fruit trees? [Re: Football Hunter]
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The fruit trees are on a south facing slope, and the pines will be above them on the north end. My intent is to give them enough space so as not to have shading issues down the road.
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#3229443 - 04/23/13 01:19 PM Re: Pine distance from fruit trees? [Re: pass-thru]
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My thinking is The acid from the needles and roots of the Pines will eventually run downhill to the Fruit trees. The Pines will grow fast 60'-100' height with 25-35' spread. A good rule of thumb is the roots will be as wide as the tree.I would guess 5 to 10 years down the road the fruit trees would be gone.
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#3229458 - 04/23/13 01:35 PM Re: Pine distance from fruit trees? [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
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I cant see 15 ft being enough. Its very site specific but at least you do have a decent orientation to work with. Another thing to think of... are these fruit trees on standard roots, semi dwarf, or dwarf? I swear Id want a good 90 ft or more. If the pines spread to 30 ft wide, that leaves 75ft accounting for that half. If your fruit tree hits 20ft then that leaves 65ft accounting for that half. That would be about 20 yards for light penetration. The more light, the better for the fruit trees.
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#3230128 - 04/24/13 08:18 AM Re: Pine distance from fruit trees? [Re: smstone22]
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Also consider virginia pine which may keep it's lower branches longer if that is important. They don't grow as fast though. Another option is to plant a row of shrubs under the loblolly after the branches start to die.
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#3230665 - 04/24/13 05:37 PM Re: Pine distance from fruit trees? [Re: treefarmer]
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How tall is your barn ?? You might consider Arborvitae or Leyland Cyprus.Some of the Bamboos or Privet's might work also.
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#3231020 - 04/24/13 11:24 PM Re: Pine distance from fruit trees? [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
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I looked into a couple different trees and ordered the loblollies because I know they do well at that location, and I figure in 2-3 years they will give a decent screen. I don't think they will be much threat to the fruit trees for a good 10 years, at which time hopefully the fruit trees will be big enough to fend for themselves. If not, I will cut the pines back. I ordered 50 3rd generation loblollies Monday...they got there today. Maybe should have gotten spruce but I have no experience with them. I will look it over good before planting and take some pics.
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#3231424 - 04/25/13 11:28 AM Re: Pine distance from fruit trees? [Re: pass-thru]
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 Originally Posted By: pass-thru
I looked into a couple different trees and ordered the loblollies because I know they do well at that location, and I figure in 2-3 years they will give a decent screen. I don't think they will be much threat to the fruit trees for a good 10 years, at which time hopefully the fruit trees will be big enough to fend for themselves. If not, I will cut the pines back. I ordered 50 3rd generation loblollies Monday...they got there today. Maybe should have gotten spruce but I have no experience with them. I will look it over good before planting and take some pics.
I dont think you can cut pines back,well you can,but if you top em,Im pretty sure they are goners.
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#3231784 - 04/25/13 07:46 PM Re: Pine distance from fruit trees? [Re: Football Hunter]
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I would suggest testing the soil around your fruit trees regularly as the pines grow. They will need some Lime as the Pines grow.
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