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#3227935 - 04/21/13 02:59 PM Re: Beat a dead horse, then kick it some more.... [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
Well heckster, BSK, didn't you know a crossbow is lethal out to 100 yards or more. Bubba tolt me he seent some guy shoot a dime at 80-yards down at the Snatch and Grab bow shop. Them guy what shoot em will kill the hole heard.


Yup, goes right along with the old stories from Europe of the English Longbow being lethal at 1,000 yards.
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#3227952 - 04/21/13 03:39 PM Re: Beat a dead horse, then kick it some more.... [Re: BSK]
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NEVER, should we have moved on from the spear.
Back when we used spears, there was a real challenge to hunting, and one HAD to practice to be good with his spear.

But now, so-called hunters head afield with an entire quiver full of arrows (or bolts as some call them).

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#3228327 - 04/22/13 07:14 AM Re: Beat a dead horse, then kick it some more.... [Re: Wes Parrish]
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You tell 'em Wes! \:D
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#3228410 - 04/22/13 08:25 AM Re: Beat a dead horse, then kick it some more.... [Re: BSK]
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One of the BIGGEST challenges in being succesful at very close range with a Bow, is getting drawn undetected with the deer at very close range! This IS NOT a problem with a Xbow any more than it is with a rifle. Simply pull the trigger!!!
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#3228596 - 04/22/13 11:35 AM Re: Beat a dead horse, then kick it some more.... [Re: Winchester]
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 Originally Posted By: Winchester
One of the BIGGEST challenges in being succesful at very close range with a Bow, is getting drawn undetected with the deer at very close range! This IS NOT a problem with a Xbow any more than it is with a rifle. Simply pull the trigger!!!
I agree with that,you usually have to stand up and draw a regular compound,but I dont care if people hunt with a cross bow.
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#3228676 - 04/22/13 01:18 PM Re: Beat a dead horse, then kick it some more.... [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
 Originally Posted By: redheadshooter
 Originally Posted By: morgancountry
That being said, hunting with it is a lot harder; its heavy, cumbersome, and loud.


I am completely off the subject of bow vs crossbow. I don't care what people hunt with. But this has absolutely no truth to it. Sure, each method has its own difficulties; but you cannot tell me that a crossbow is harder to hunt with than a compound when at the end of your sentence you say you use it because you don't have time to practice.


His statement is completely accurate. It is harder to hunt with as in more difficult in terms of usage. Having or not having to practice has nothing to with how hard it is to hunt with. Apples and oranges.

There are only two advantages to a crossbow. They require less practice-none for most. And once sighted in, can be mastered by almost anyone. That is it.

I have several decades invested in archery. I got my first bow in the late '60s. The last few have years have been with a crossbow. For a few years, I could pull a compound back enough to shoot once or twice, not enough to practice and stay sharp. Then, I could not pull one at all.

In my six or seven years of crossbow hunting, I came to hate them for their weight and cumbersome qualities. Also, you cannot bend around a tree and shoot one. Therefore, they cost you shots. I have to hang mine on a hook. I cannot hold it in my lap. Getting it down has cost me far more deer than pulling a vertical bow ever did.

They are no more accurate, have no greater range or kill any better than a compound.
You do not have to practice with them and they are quite easy to learn to shoot. That is it and anyone who says otherwise either has not hunted with one or is just lying. Big difference between hunting with one and shooting or seeing someone shoot one from a bench in a shop. I believe my longest shot to date is about 38-yards-far less than my longest with a compound.

I am not compensated by any crossbow company and don't give a flying circus what laws may or may not be passed. The above is just the plain, unvarnished facts of the matter from someone who has shot and hunted with everything from longbows to the most sophisticated crossbows.


I completely agree about shooting behind the tree. I didn't even think about that until I was up in the tree, watching the deer behind me, crossbow in my hand wondering how in the world I was was going to shoot it...lol. I am saving money now to buy a compund to hunt from a stand with and still use my crossbow on the ground.

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#3229431 - 04/23/13 12:51 PM Re: Beat a dead horse, then kick it some more.... [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: Winchester
One of the BIGGEST challenges in being succesful at very close range with a Bow, is getting drawn undetected with the deer at very close range! This IS NOT a problem with a Xbow any more than it is with a rifle. Simply pull the trigger!!!
I agree with that,you usually have to stand up and draw a regular compound,but I dont care if people hunt with a cross bow.


If you have never hunted with a crossbow, you may believe this to be true. However, it is completely inacurate. If you are sitting down and shoot a target, then it is somewhat true. If you are hunting a live animal, it is completely false. It may well be, only those who have hunted with a crossbow will undertand.
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#3229433 - 04/23/13 12:55 PM Re: Beat a dead horse, then kick it some more.... [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: Winchester
One of the BIGGEST challenges in being succesful at very close range with a Bow, is getting drawn undetected with the deer at very close range! This IS NOT a problem with a Xbow any more than it is with a rifle. Simply pull the trigger!!!
I agree with that,you usually have to stand up and draw a regular compound,but I dont care if people hunt with a cross bow.


i never stand. i don't recall ever standing to shoot from a treestand.
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#3229586 - 04/23/13 04:39 PM Re: Beat a dead horse, then kick it some more.... [Re: stik]
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Stik-when I was using a vertical bow, I probably shot 90% of my deer from a sitting position. I practiced that way and only stood when I had to lean around the tree. I can also recall very few times I got caught drawing. I have never understood all the fuss about it.
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#3230326 - 04/24/13 10:56 AM Re: Beat a dead horse, then kick it some more.... [Re: stik]
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 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: Winchester
One of the BIGGEST challenges in being succesful at very close range with a Bow, is getting drawn undetected with the deer at very close range! This IS NOT a problem with a Xbow any more than it is with a rifle. Simply pull the trigger!!!
I agree with that,you usually have to stand up and draw a regular compound,but I dont care if people hunt with a cross bow.


i never stand. i don't recall ever standing to shoot from a treestand.
Assuming your right handed,how would you shoot at a deer to your extreme right,with a bow,without standing to turn that way?
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