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#3227797 - 04/21/13 10:55 AM Re: Another bomber thread [Re: Bone Collector]
pass-thru
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In any regular criminal case, the remedy for failure to warn of Miranda rights is not to throw out the case, but to exclude the statements that were provided without warning. They have plenty of evidence to prosecute him here without his statements. He was shooting at the police they could have killed him. The intent is to inteview him for intelligence, not just for sake of prosecution.
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#3227800 - 04/21/13 11:06 AM Re: Another bomber thread [Re: pass-thru]
fishboy1
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I for one would like to see a legal procedure for determining a US citizen to be declared "enemy combatant" written into law, voted on, and passed.

It should REQUIRE a court hearing with evidence presented and the accused given an attorney to refute the evidence. This is NOT a full trial, simply a hearing by a judge to determine IF the government has cause to deny a citizen of their traditional rights.

As it stands (as I understand it) somebody in the government simply declares someone to be an "enemy combatant" and whooosh! the Constitution is suspended, and the person can be thrown into a gulag, jailed for years with no legal recourse or contact with ANYBODY in the outside world, given over to a foreign power without any due process, etc...

Basically the government can turn you into Edmond Dantès from the Count of Monte Cristo ( book/movie reference ) with no checks, balances, or legal recourse. THAT scares me a hel1 of a lot more than some Muslim wack job with an exploding crock pot.
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#3227819 - 04/21/13 11:28 AM Re: Another bomber thread [Re: fishboy1]
SALTMAN
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I got a question number 4 or maybe 5 ? Big bro number 1 was driving expensive cars , wearing expensive clothes , etc College for one or both ,, I have not heard one word about either having a job ? Someone had to be giving them money ! Sure as heck hope it wasn't us taxpayers on one of our entitlement programs ! If not who was fronting them the $$ ?
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#3227829 - 04/21/13 11:45 AM Re: Another bomber thread [Re: SALTMAN]
preds1
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Big bro was given his US citizenship on Sept. 11th of last year.

Technically, he would've been granted every constitutional right of someone born in
Iowa, Colorado, or any other state.

I'd hate to be the one responsible for making that call on citizenship.


Edited by preds1 (04/21/13 11:47 AM)
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#3227862 - 04/21/13 12:45 PM Re: Another bomber thread [Re: Bone Collector]
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just shoot him and save us all alot of money
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#3227864 - 04/21/13 12:45 PM Re: Another bomber thread [Re: LA man]
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ill supply the bullits, FREE
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#3227919 - 04/21/13 02:13 PM Re: Another bomber thread [Re: LA man]
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I believe if they determine he may have info about anything that could compromise the safety of other people they can do what they want US citizen or not.
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#3227960 - 04/21/13 04:03 PM Re: Another bomber thread [Re: mr.big]
Bowdacious
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It's pretty bad that he was granted citizenship after Russia called and warned the US about him. How bad would you need to be for a country to call and tell another country to keep an eye on you? Jeez
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#3228113 - 04/21/13 07:44 PM Re: Another bomber thread [Re: Bone Collector]
Redwing
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Registered: 11/15/04
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Turn him loose then....

Duck Season!, Rabbit Season!, Duck Season!, Rabit Season!, Terrorist Season.....

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#3228123 - 04/21/13 07:48 PM Re: Another bomber thread [Re: RUGER]
gator-n-buck
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 Originally Posted By: RUGER
Ok I have seen, heard or read where the second piece of trash may not have been read his miranda rights when he was taken into custody.

He was allegedly responsible for part of the bombings.
He was holed up and shooting at police.

He may or may not have been concious at the time he was taken into custody.

Will he be turned loose because of this?
Should he be ?

Non of the above... With what has happen and the bigger picture. LEO isn't worried about miranda.

It's more importsnt to find out if there is a bigger problem out there.... \:\)


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