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#3227692 - 04/21/13 07:46 AM Alabama Rig !!!!!!
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Is this thing real or just a passing fad? I have tried it several times with no success but I am still learning about this new set-up. I see and hear alot of fisherman talking and using this thing but really dont hear them saying they are real happy with the results! Kinda reminds me of that 90s lure that was all over the Tv and the fishing shows I think it was called the Flying Lure System or something like that where the lure would swim away from ya and right into the fishes mouth! Yeah Right!!!!Well I'm a Jig and Pig guy and like to fish slow and with several years of fishing the lakes here in East Tn. I have learned that when the temp heats up in the summer and the water gets warm and the sun goes down the best results is slow fishing with jigs and worm. But I am wondering what ya'll think about this new rig?
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#3227701 - 04/21/13 08:04 AM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: Tn Bowhunter]
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I've caught one fish off the rig in guntersville. I see hundreds of guys throwing it but I've haven't seen nanny hooked up. I have friends that claim they kill em on it but I haven't had much luck with it.
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#3227713 - 04/21/13 08:25 AM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: wobblegobble]
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I plan to find out,I have a 3 hook deal that I was told legal for here, its like any other artifical lure finding the best way to run it & then using it with confidence,its just another tool & tools cost $ lol
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#3228037 - 04/21/13 05:59 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: mike243]
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I have had fair success with it. I haven't thrown it that much but we did catch 5 or so a couple weeks ago in our tournament on Old Hickory. Still haven't gotten down yet. But it will still be in the boat for the upcoming tournaments.
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#3228088 - 04/21/13 07:19 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: Spoonbillmallard]
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My son recently caught 65 pounds of Bass on an al. rig on Chickamauga 3 day tournament. Most were using them. He came in 13# out of the money.
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#3228241 - 04/21/13 10:19 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: Craddock1]
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I will never use one, at least I can't foresee any good reason to try, but that's just me. I'd rather throw a good ol zoom lizard
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#3228405 - 04/22/13 08:20 AM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: catman529]
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I'm speaking from a tournament fisherman's perspective, so keep that in mind. If I only "fun fished", I wouldn't throw it near as much. If you fish the TVA River system, from the Fall to the Spawn, you better throw it or you will get beat. I was stubborn when they first came out, but I got tired of donating money so I learned to throw it. On Guntersville, you can't win without it. Yes, you can catch em without it, and yes, you might stumble upon a big bag from time to time, but if you look at the guys that are consistently winning, they throw the rig.

The reason people see everybody throwing it and not catching anything is because it's not a bait your gonna get alot of bites on. But the ones that bite are the ones that it takes to win a tournament.

It's like any other lure, there is a time and a place for it. But one thing I have learned, if the time and place are right, and you are not throwing it, your not going to beat the guys that are. Also, this lure is not as stupid proof as what people make it out to be. Just like a crankbait, spinnerbait, or a stick of dynamite, there are little tricks that help to get you more bites than those that just chunk and wind.....
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#3228419 - 04/22/13 08:32 AM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: Tennessee Todd]
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 Originally Posted By: Tennessee Todd
I'm speaking from a tournament fisherman's perspective, so keep that in mind. If I only "fun fished", I wouldn't throw it near as much. If you fish the TVA River system, from the Fall to the Spawn, you better throw it or you will get beat. I was stubborn when they first came out, but I got tired of donating money so I learned to throw it. On Guntersville, you can't win without it. Yes, you can catch em without it, and yes, you might stumble upon a big bag from time to time, but if you look at the guys that are consistently winning, they throw the rig.

The reason people see everybody throwing it and not catching anything is because it's not a bait your gonna get alot of bites on. But the ones that bite are the ones that it takes to win a tournament.

It's like any other lure, there is a time and a place for it. But one thing I have learned, if the time and place are right, and you are not throwing it, your not going to beat the guys that are. Also, this lure is not as stupid proof as what people make it out to be. Just like a crankbait, spinnerbait, or a stick of dynamite, there are little tricks that help to get you more bites than those that just chunk and wind.....

Well said and I agree! I too dont really like the A-rig but learned quickly to either throw it or get beat for the several months a year when it shines! As TT said, its not as easy as buying one and rigging just any baits and hooks and catching fish. There are many tricks, different style rigs, and bait selections that make your success go WAY up in different conditions!

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#3228434 - 04/22/13 08:44 AM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: Winchester]
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[quote=Winchester As TT said, its not as easy as buying one and rigging just any baits and hooks and catching fish. There are many tricks, different style rigs, and bait selections that make your success go WAY up in different conditions![/quote]

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It is not a miracle bait, but it will get bites when other similar baits won't during the right time.
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#3228585 - 04/22/13 11:26 AM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: TN Larry]
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Has worked pretty good for me at times.
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#3228589 - 04/22/13 11:29 AM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: Tennessee Todd]
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 Originally Posted By: Tennessee Todd
I'm speaking from a tournament fisherman's perspective, so keep that in mind. If I only "fun fished", I wouldn't throw it near as much. If you fish the TVA River system, from the Fall to the Spawn, you better throw it or you will get beat. I was stubborn when they first came out, but I got tired of donating money so I learned to throw it. On Guntersville, you can't win without it. Yes, you can catch em without it, and yes, you might stumble upon a big bag from time to time, but if you look at the guys that are consistently winning, they throw the rig.

The reason people see everybody throwing it and not catching anything is because it's not a bait your gonna get alot of bites on. But the ones that bite are the ones that it takes to win a tournament.

It's like any other lure, there is a time and a place for it. But one thing I have learned, if the time and place are right, and you are not throwing it, your not going to beat the guys that are. Also, this lure is not as stupid proof as what people make it out to be. Just like a crankbait, spinnerbait, or a stick of dynamite, there are little tricks that help to get you more bites than those that just chunk and wind.....


There sort of like cross bows..........er never mind TT would never have used them if they were. \:D
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#3228663 - 04/22/13 12:56 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
I will never use one, at least I can't foresee any good reason to try, but that's just me. I'd rather throw a good ol zoom lizard



That good ol Zoom lizard will get your teeth kicked in and your money taken at any tournament in the winter and early spring around here. \:D

Still an art to fishing it and you still have to find the fish it takes to win. Look at the PAA tourney on Douglas and the Southern Open a couple of weeks ago. Charlie Hartley was throwing it because everyone else was and he didn't weigh in much of anything.
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#3228677 - 04/22/13 01:22 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: mossyhorns300]
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 Originally Posted By: mossyhorns300
 Originally Posted By: catman529
I will never use one, at least I can't foresee any good reason to try, but that's just me. I'd rather throw a good ol zoom lizard



That good ol Zoom lizard will get your teeth kicked in and your money taken at any tournament in the winter and early spring around here. \:D

Still an art to fishing it and you still have to find the fish it takes to win. Look at the PAA tourney on Douglas and the Southern Open a couple of weeks ago. Charlie Hartley was throwing it because everyone else was and he didn't weigh in much of anything.


Charlie wasn't on any fish, that was the problem. It doens't matter what you throw, if the fish aren't there, they won't bite. That's why you see the same people winning tournaments now that was winning tournaments before the rig. Those guys find the right quality of fish and the rig just helps them get them to bite. If the rig wasn't invented, those guys would still be winning.

And then there's people like me who are a non-profit organization when it comes to fishing.... \:D
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#3228689 - 04/22/13 01:39 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: Tennessee Todd]
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 Originally Posted By: Tennessee Todd
 Originally Posted By: mossyhorns300
 Originally Posted By: catman529
I will never use one, at least I can't foresee any good reason to try, but that's just me. I'd rather throw a good ol zoom lizard



That good ol Zoom lizard will get your teeth kicked in and your money taken at any tournament in the winter and early spring around here. \:D

Still an art to fishing it and you still have to find the fish it takes to win. Look at the PAA tourney on Douglas and the Southern Open a couple of weeks ago. Charlie Hartley was throwing it because everyone else was and he didn't weigh in much of anything.


Charlie wasn't on any fish, that was the problem. It doens't matter what you throw, if the fish aren't there, they won't bite. That's why you see the same people winning tournaments now that was winning tournaments before the rig. Those guys find the right quality of fish and the rig just helps them get them to bite. If the rig wasn't invented, those guys would still be winning.

And then there's people like me who are a non-profit organization when it comes to fishing.... \:D

Im definitely in the non profit department when dealing with fishing, as it costs me way more than I make on it!!! \:\)

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#3228694 - 04/22/13 01:44 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
I will never use one, at least I can't foresee any good reason to try, but that's just me. I'd rather throw a good ol zoom lizard


I had rather do a lot of things than throw the a rig. It will absolutely wear you out if covering a bunch of water. However, as others have said above, on certain lakes and times of the year, you better be throwing it if you wanna win money. BUT, you also have to be on fish as stated above as well.
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#3228983 - 04/22/13 09:12 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: Tennessee Todd]
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 Originally Posted By: Tennessee Todd
 Originally Posted By: mossyhorns300
 Originally Posted By: catman529
I will never use one, at least I can't foresee any good reason to try, but that's just me. I'd rather throw a good ol zoom lizard



That good ol Zoom lizard will get your teeth kicked in and your money taken at any tournament in the winter and early spring around here. \:D

Still an art to fishing it and you still have to find the fish it takes to win. Look at the PAA tourney on Douglas and the Southern Open a couple of weeks ago. Charlie Hartley was throwing it because everyone else was and he didn't weigh in much of anything.


Charlie wasn't on any fish, that was the problem. It doens't matter what you throw, if the fish aren't there, they won't bite. That's why you see the same people winning tournaments now that was winning tournaments before the rig. Those guys find the right quality of fish and the rig just helps them get them to bite. If the rig wasn't invented, those guys would still be winning.

And then there's people like me who are a non-profit organization when it comes to fishing.... \:D


Exactly right, Todd. That's what I was getting at. You still have to be on the right fish. He wrote an article after the tourneys were over stating that he was so caught up in the craze of throwing the rig and feeling like you had to do so to feel like you had a chance to win, that he forgot all about what it takes to win a tournament because he was so caught up in what everyone else was doing with the rig. I just used him as an example since he was a pro and didn't fare well by throwing it, but everybody thinks its an automatic 25 lb bag just because you're throwing it. Reminds me of the old timers in our club. They all think its a end all-be all magic bait that everyone goes out and catches 30 lbs on just because its tied on. Ask Charlie how that worked out! Lol. Chris Lane never picked it up and finished near the top 5 if I'm not mistaken.
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#3229350 - 04/23/13 11:01 AM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: mossyhorns300]
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Here is one pro's (Randy Blaukat) perspective on the a rig.

http://www.bassfan.com/opinion_article.asp?ID=196#.UXRRbxzdnnc
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#3229394 - 04/23/13 12:10 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: TN Larry]
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Not sure I agree with everything Randy said, but most of it I do. Personally, I'm good either way. If they ban it, I'm fine. If they don't I'm fine. If I had a gun to my head and had to choose, I would say ban it. (except for the fact that I have $25,000 worth of the @#!$ things. :D)

The main thing I disagree with is the point that anyone can throw it across a secondary point and catch a big bass. That's just not my experience. Yes, it can happen, but as I've already said, you still have to be around the quality of fish that will win you tournaments when your throwing it.

Plus, this is only my opinion, but from experience, I can already tell that fish are becoming conditioned to the lure in areas where it's thrown day and night. That's what has made me tinker with different methods of throwing it and that has been fun. It will be fun to see how well the Elites fair next year on Guntersville's Bassmaster's Classic WITHOUT the A rig.

I'm also a little suprised that there hasn't been more controversy over the new electronics than the new lures such as the A rig. Wow, the detail of what the new electronics show is unreal. It's just suprising you don't hear much about that.
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#3229405 - 04/23/13 12:26 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: Tennessee Todd]
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 Originally Posted By: Tennessee Todd


I'm also a little suprised that there hasn't been more controversy over the new electronics than the new lures such as the A rig. Wow, the detail of what the new electronics show is unreal. It's just suprising you don't hear much about that.


I have heard a couple discussions about this.
From what I gather some of the new side view electronics pretty much show you exactly what is there.
Of course that comes with a price tag too.
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#3229477 - 04/23/13 02:11 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: RUGER]
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The new electronics are so much better than what we had 10 years ago. If you can read the electronics and learn how the picture on the screen relates to the boats current position, you can find fish. You have to spend time looking at it to understand what it is showing you.

I remember the old flashers and graphs. They are like comparing the old Pong video game to the modern video games.
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#3229508 - 04/23/13 03:02 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: Kirk]
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 Originally Posted By: Kirk
The new electronics are so much better than what we had 10 years ago. If you can read the electronics and learn how the picture on the screen relates to the boats current position, you can find fish. You have to spend time looking at it to understand what it is showing you.

I remember the old flashers and graphs. They are like comparing the old Pong video game to the modern video games.


Yup. The other evening I was looking at a side scan over a group of baitfish and I could tell the fish were feeding. We were fishing in about 40 foot of water, but the fish were feeding in about 20. We backed off, I casted my A rig and counted it down to 20 feet and BAM, a fish murdered it. It turned out to be a 10 lb catfish but it was cool to actually know there was a feeding fish in that spot and know actually where to throw to catch him. I wish I could get better at determining what is bass vs. other fish, but I can't tell yet. The guys that are really good can tell what is bass and what is feeding etc. It's pretty cool to fish with someone who can pull up to summer holes, turn on the side imaging and electronics and tell whether the fish are biting or not. If not, they move on.

That's way above my experience at this point, but it's pretty cool to learn that stuff. As Kirk said, alot different from the old flashers. But I tell ya, some of the old timers were really dang good at the flasher and still use them.
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#3229516 - 04/23/13 03:09 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: Tennessee Todd]
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 Originally Posted By: Tennessee Todd
Not sure I agree with everything Randy said, but most of it I do. Personally, I'm good either way. If they ban it, I'm fine. If they don't I'm fine. If I had a gun to my head and had to choose, I would say ban it. (except for the fact that I have $25,000 worth of the @#!$ things. :D)

The main thing I disagree with is the point that anyone can throw it across a secondary point and catch a big bass. That's just not my experience. Yes, it can happen, but as I've already said, you still have to be around the quality of fish that will win you tournaments when your throwing it.

Plus, this is only my opinion, but from experience, I can already tell that fish are becoming conditioned to the lure in areas where it's thrown day and night. That's what has made me tinker with different methods of throwing it and that has been fun. It will be fun to see how well the Elites fair next year on Guntersville's Bassmaster's Classic WITHOUT the A rig.

I'm also a little suprised that there hasn't been more controversy over the new electronics than the new lures such as the A rig. Wow, the detail of what the new electronics show is unreal. It's just suprising you don't hear much about that.


Agree.
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#3229702 - 04/23/13 07:10 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: TN Larry]
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I fished the paa as a coangler about a month ago on douglas ( i had used the a rig with a little success the past year) I was luckey enough to draw Timmy Horton, he caught 28 pounds that day and culled at least 21 pounds i never caught a fish using my set up. The next Tuesday i went to cherokee and used exactly the same set up that he had used and i caught 13 bass 11 being keepers I had a 18 pound sack. I have beeen killing them ever since( i have caught 2 doubles also) I said all this to say not every a rig is the same the fish will bite a certain setup better than others. I am hookeed
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#3229807 - 04/23/13 08:20 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: milkey]
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 Originally Posted By: milkey
I fished the paa as a coangler about a month ago on douglas ( i had used the a rig with a little success the past year) I was luckey enough to draw Timmy Horton, he caught 28 pounds that day and culled at least 21 pounds i never caught a fish using my set up. The next Tuesday i went to cherokee and used exactly the same set up that he had used and i caught 13 bass 11 being keepers I had a 18 pound sack. I have beeen killing them ever since( i have caught 2 doubles also) I said all this to say not every a rig is the same the fish will bite a certain setup better than others. I am hookeed


I agree and have seen the same. So what was his set up? \:\)
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#3229993 - 04/24/13 04:10 AM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: TN Larry]
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He did not use swim baits he used grubs. Also he used the fl;ash mob jr.
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#3230085 - 04/24/13 07:34 AM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: milkey]
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 Originally Posted By: milkey
He did not use swim baits he used grubs. Also he used the fl;ash mob jr.


Would you hush please sir......

\:D
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#3230178 - 04/24/13 08:46 AM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: Tennessee Todd]
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 Originally Posted By: Tennessee Todd
 Originally Posted By: milkey
He did not use swim baits he used grubs. Also he used the fl;ash mob jr.


Would you hush please sir......

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x2 lol

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#3230185 - 04/24/13 08:55 AM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: tophat]
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 Originally Posted By: tophat
 Originally Posted By: Tennessee Todd
 Originally Posted By: milkey
He did not use swim baits he used grubs. Also he used the fl;ash mob jr.


Would you hush please sir......

\:D



x2 lol


x3. Shouldn't have asked. \:\)
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#3230199 - 04/24/13 09:13 AM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: TN Larry]
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LOL This thread is a perfect example of how much difference just the type of a-rig makes, let alone where and how you throw it. I too am on the fence in the battle of allowing or outlawing the rig?? I dont think its the end all of fishing and dont think it will do much harm to the resource, reason being within a few years its effectiveness will definitely drop off some, just as many other new baits over the years have done. I think Blaukat is overreacting just like many other pros because this lure can definitely level the playing field some for wknd anglers vs the pros and they dont like it!
I also agree that Electronics have played a BIGGER role than ANYTHING else in recent years and increased catch weights! Its simply amazing what you can see with a good HDS unit and a properly set up structure scan!!!

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#3230229 - 04/24/13 09:41 AM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: Winchester]
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 Originally Posted By: Winchester
LOL This thread is a perfect example of how much difference just the type of a-rig makes, let alone where and how you throw it. I too am on the fence in the battle of allowing or outlawing the rig?? I dont think its the end all of fishing and dont think it will do much harm to the resource, reason being within a few years its effectiveness will definitely drop off some, just as many other new baits over the years have done. I think Blaukat is overreacting just like many other pros because this lure can definitely level the playing field some for wknd anglers vs the pros and they dont like it!
I also agree that Electronics have played a BIGGER role than ANYTHING else in recent years and increased catch weights! Its simply amazing what you can see with a good HDS unit and a properly set up structure scan!!!


Couldn't have said it better myself. I think that he is over reacting but does make some valid points as well. The rig and the presentation are key, however, WHERE is a big factor as said above. I can go throw it in my pond stocked with minnows only, throw the right rig with the right presenation and still not get bit. I have done this btw just doing some testing after tinkering to see the results. I didn't catch one though, and had it right. \:\)

In terms of electronics, one tournament that comes to mind is I think that it was the KY Lake FLW tour tournament last year where most of the fish were caught on ledges. People used to have to rely on looking at maps, depth finders, etc to find the ledges and then fish them to find out what was there, etc, etc. (Yes, many I mean most got help from locals but theoretically speaking). Then GPS units came along which made finding the ledges easier, but you still had to fish them to find the sweet spot, etc, etc. Well, last year in this tournament, many pros that did well spent their entire practice hardly wetting a line. They went around with the Scan units marking schools of fish, noting the size, etc. They would then pull up during the tournament and scan to relocate the schools and fish or not fish based on what they were seeing on the screens. I don't really care either way on either subject, but it seems like this tournament was swayed more by the guys that were technology advanced with their units than doing the actual work to find the fish and catch them. They still had to catch them, but if you know how to read your unit good enough to identify the fish and know what they are doing, it is game on with a school of feeding ledge fish.
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#3230333 - 04/24/13 11:04 AM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: TN Larry]
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Id rather throw an A rig,than a 10xd,have you seen them crazy things??????
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#3230386 - 04/24/13 12:16 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
Id rather throw an A rig,than a 10xd,have you seen them crazy things??????


Yeah, those are some sweet cranks. Get you an 8' cranking rod and a Revo Wench and you can throw it all day. Time will tell this summer when that bite gets here, but Strike King hit a homer with that bait in my opinion.
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#3230391 - 04/24/13 12:20 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: TN Larry]
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 Originally Posted By: TN Larry
[quote=Winchester] I don't really care either way on either subject, but it seems like this tournament was swayed more by the guys that were technology advanced with their units than doing the actual work to find the fish and catch them. They still had to catch them, but if you know how to read your unit good enough to identify the fish and know what they are doing, it is game on with a school of feeding ledge fish.


Yeah that's what I was referring to in my earlier posts. I'm just suprised that this issue hasn't been more heated than the A rig because at least for the most part, everyone can afford a $15 A rig but not everyone can afford the several thousand dollar Side imaging units.....
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#3230584 - 04/24/13 04:31 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: Tennessee Todd]
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I did not tell everything....ha ha
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#3231203 - 04/25/13 08:11 AM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: Tennessee Todd]
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 Originally Posted By: Tennessee Todd
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
Id rather throw an A rig,than a 10xd,have you seen them crazy things??????


Yeah, those are some sweet cranks. Get you an 8' cranking rod and a Revo Wench and you can throw it all day. Time will tell this summer when that bite gets here, but Strike King hit a homer with that bait in my opinion.

Then let out 200 yards of line and start cranking!!!
These plugs will go DEEP and will open a whole new ballgame on some lakes!!!!

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#3231268 - 04/25/13 08:56 AM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: TN Larry]
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 Originally Posted By: TN Larry
Here is one pro's (Randy Blaukat) perspective on the a rig.

http://www.bassfan.com/opinion_article.asp?ID=196#.UXRRbxzdnnc


And then Paul Elias's perspective. I wanna say, Paul, tell us how you really feel. \:\) He makes some valid points as well. I think that I agree more on his perspective than Blaukat's.

http://www.bassfan.com/opinion_article.asp?ID=197
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#3231493 - 04/25/13 01:15 PM Re: Alabama Rig !!!!!! [Re: TN Larry]
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I sure like my sidescan. Took me awhile to figure it out and know where I need to be throwing. Baitfish are easy to figure out and I can tell a school of Crappie on it now. Still have lots of water time to figure out the rest. I have also used it to find certain spots that produce due to structure where you would never think any is. Sidescan in conjunction with sonar can really get you on the fish quick.

I have had pretty good luck with the Bama Rig, its one of the best tools in my tackle box when used correctly. I just wish I got more time on the water to play with it!
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