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#3224635 - 04/17/13 04:25 PM Re: In All My Years... [Re: ferg]
Bigg'un4214
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I took a journalism class in the late 70's. One of the papers I wrote was so red lined that it was totally opposite of what I intended to mean.
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#3224718 - 04/17/13 05:34 PM Re: In All My Years... [Re: Bigg'un4214]
bowriter
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Could at least spell it right. It is dino sour.

I recal one J-class. The only thing you had to remember was W-W-W-W-H. Who, What, When, Where, Why and How. Those had to be 100% accurate or you got an F.

An inverted pyramid was used with the main facts at the top. That way, a story couold be edited for space from the bottom. I proably cut a thousand inches of AP and UPI wire copy when I was a sports editor. Could never do that now.

Thankfully I write a lot of nostalgic fiction. I don't have to pay much attention to writing "tight" anymore. It was tough when you were told you had three inches of space and nine inches of copy. A column inch was gold to a newspaper reporter. I thought I was in Heaven when I got 12-inches above the fold on the front page. Somewhere, I still have a copy of that paper.
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#3224720 - 04/17/13 05:37 PM Re: In All My Years... [Re: ferg]
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Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
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#3224721 - 04/17/13 05:38 PM Re: In All My Years... [Re: moondawg]
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 Originally Posted By: moondawg
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.



ding ding ding
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#3224769 - 04/17/13 07:01 PM Re: In All My Years... [Re: RUGER]
bowriter
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That is the outdoor writer creed, not a newspaper reporter or any reporter supposedly conveying facts to the public. Don't confuse reporting with writing. 95% of the awards Ihave won for journalism were for writing, not reporting. I hate reporting. That is why I do so little of it. But I can when I want to. R Simms does it better. \:\) When it comes to fiction, I do it better.
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#3224847 - 04/17/13 08:10 PM Re: In All My Years... [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
I sold my first outdoor story in 1959. I have been around the reporting game a long time. Never, ever, have I seen such sloppy reporting as I have regarding the Boston bombing. It is just deplorable. CNN is the absolute worst!

Do they not teach anything in J-school anymore?


Equally deplorable was the number of people here and elsewhere eagerly lapping it up and posting and commenting on it as fact. That's one of the major reasons why CNN and the others continue to get away with it.

More on the phenomenon, of which the Boston bombings is only the most recent example.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20130417/US--Boston.Marathon-Media/
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#3225105 - 04/18/13 05:27 AM Re: In All My Years... [Re: Bambi Buster]
bowriter
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I agree but this is not a news agency so people are not expected to adhere to certain standards when it comes to veracity.
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#3225108 - 04/18/13 05:34 AM Re: In All My Years... [Re: RUGER]
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 Originally Posted By: RUGER
 Originally Posted By: moondawg
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.



ding ding ding



Apparently this is the liberal way as well.
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#3225109 - 04/18/13 05:36 AM Re: In All My Years... [Re: Bambi Buster]
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 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
 Originally Posted By: bowriter
I sold my first outdoor story in 1959. I have been around the reporting game a long time. Never, ever, have I seen such sloppy reporting as I have regarding the Boston bombing. It is just deplorable. CNN is the absolute worst!

Do they not teach anything in J-school anymore?


Equally deplorable was the number of people here and elsewhere eagerly lapping it up and posting and commenting on it as fact. That's one of the major reasons why CNN and the others continue to get away with it.

More on the phenomenon, of which the Boston bombings is only the most recent example.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20130417/US--Boston.Marathon-Media/


There is no way anyone should believe anything reported by any news agency period, over any length of time. If you weren't there, you do not and will not know what happened, period.
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#3225752 - 04/18/13 05:36 PM Re: In All My Years... [Re: MUP]
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How accurate is the media?

LOL


Reuters published George Soros' Obituary today. We can conveniently fill in the proper dates when the event actually arrives.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/18/soros-george-b-aug-idUSL2N0CR1TF20130418
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