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#3220808 - 04/12/13 09:47 PM Re: Lets see some Smokeless Muzzleloaders [Re: Rubberduck270]
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The top 2 sport custom Rayhill stocks.The top one is a custom .50 cal.Solid 300 yd MOA rifle. The second is a Pac-nor .45. It is my beanfield rifle. I just finished a Laminated .45 Pac-nor for my son and will post that pic later.They all sport Zeiss Conquest.


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#3220862 - 04/12/13 11:17 PM Re: Lets see some Smokeless Muzzleloaders [Re: Tar12]
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Very nice sir.
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#3222128 - 04/14/13 09:38 PM Re: Lets see some Smokeless Muzzleloaders [Re: Tenn.Guy]
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all these are nice guns
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#3224933 - 04/17/13 09:09 PM Re: Lets see some Smokeless Muzzleloaders [Re: ROUGH COUNTRY HUNTER]
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#3226564 - 04/19/13 01:36 PM Re: Lets see some Smokeless Muzzleloaders [Re: Tenn.Guy]
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Fullstream, how does that rifle shoot for you and what is the twist?

I looked at converting one but someone told me the twist wasn't good for a MZ. If I got some bad info I want to convert one like yours BAD.
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#3227467 - 04/20/13 08:28 PM Re: Lets see some Smokeless Muzzleloaders [Re: TX300mag]
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Late but as promised. This is a Sav/Pac .45 that I put together for my son.Bedded,third pillar,and Rossmans machined/knurled quick bolt release screw. It is sporting a 3x9x40 Zeiss Conquest.I also installed a Savage Target spring in the trigger assembly. A must have for a light touch as it will improve long range accuracy.Typical of all Pacnor barrels she shoots lights out!




Edited by Tar12 (04/20/13 08:55 PM)

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#3227489 - 04/20/13 08:50 PM Re: Lets see some Smokeless Muzzleloaders [Re: TX300mag]
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 Originally Posted By: TX300mag
Fullstream, how does that rifle shoot for you and what is the twist?

I looked at converting one but someone told me the twist wasn't good for a MZ. If I got some bad info I want to convert one like yours BAD.

You got some bad info. Both the CVA Stalker and the 45/70 Govt Encore twist rates are 1-20. No one that I know of has had any trouble getting them to shoot and shoot well.On the other extreme a 1-32 twist custom Douglas barrel on my buds Encore shoots lights out with 60 grn of Vit N120,290 grn barnes TMZ. This is a .50 cal mind you.

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#3227606 - 04/20/13 11:37 PM Re: Lets see some Smokeless Muzzleloaders [Re: Tar12]
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I had no idea ML had evolved so much.
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#3227769 - 04/21/13 10:13 AM Re: Lets see some Smokeless Muzzleloaders [Re: Tar12]
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 Originally Posted By: Tar12
 Originally Posted By: TX300mag
Fullstream, how does that rifle shoot for you and what is the twist?

I looked at converting one but someone told me the twist wasn't good for a MZ. If I got some bad info I want to convert one like yours BAD.

You got some bad info. Both the CVA Stalker and the 45/70 Govt Encore twist rates are 1-20. No one that I know of has had any trouble getting them to shoot and shoot well.On the other extreme a 1-32 twist custom Douglas barrel on my buds Encore shoots lights out with 60 grn of Vit N120,290 grn barnes TMZ. This is a .50 cal mind you.


Thanks Tar12! I'm happy to hear that. Since it's fairly budget friendly I think I'll bump this "want" up above the Savage 220 in priority.
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#3228087 - 04/21/13 07:18 PM Re: Lets see some Smokeless Muzzleloaders [Re: WGK]
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 Originally Posted By: WGK
I had no idea ML had evolved so much.

They have indeed evolved.With many areas around the country only allowing shotgun/muzzle loaders it was only a matter time. 3,000 fps has already been achieved safely. Many of the smokeless MLs will outperform center fires in both accuracy and terminal performance.Most settle for loads in the 2500-2700 fps range. Hold on hair to 300 yds.It aint grandads smokepole!

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