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#3219713 - 04/11/13 05:55 PM "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War
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http://www.activistpost.com/2013/04/starve-beast-dont-join-military-war.html
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#3219927 - 04/11/13 09:19 PM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: Stalkhunter]
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I just deleted a very long reply that would alienate many with some pretty radical thoughts of mine regarding the use of US military by President Bush (post Afghanistan) and Barack Obama.

Suffice it to say that I pretty much agree with the intent of the man in the video.

Until this country rids itself of the elitists that have riddled it like a disease, maybe we should "starve the beast."

Until Al Qaeda attacked the mainland US, we hadn't had a true "fighting for our freedom" war since World War II.
They played our patriotism like a violin.

We put puppet regimes in place after we ourselves send our kids in to die fighting, instead of their own pathetic, cowardly excuses for "men".
Then the puppets turn on us.

For the past several years, since the main war against Al Qaeda, our GI's have being murdered, crippled, maimed, and sacrificed purely for political reasons, and to make money for others. Our veterans are dumped onto a Veterans Administration that cannot or will not adequately care for their wounds, disabilities, and the PTSD most of them suffer with.
An entire generation of veterans is at risk.

I see where this gentleman is coming from.
I really do.

Let Haji and Faroukh die for their own worthless sand, "for their freedom."




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#3219973 - 04/11/13 10:09 PM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: sgtwebb1]
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As much as it pains me to say it, it's difficult to find much to rebut in the linked video, or in your comments on it for that matter.
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#3220340 - 04/12/13 11:09 AM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: sgtwebb1]
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 Originally Posted By: sgtwebb1
I just deleted a very long reply that would alienate many with some pretty radical thoughts of mine regarding the use of US military by President Bush (post Afghanistan) and Barack Obama.

Suffice it to say that I pretty much agree with the intent of the man in the video.

Until this country rids itself of the elitists that have riddled it like a disease, maybe we should "starve the beast."

Until Al Qaeda attacked the mainland US, we hadn't had a true "fighting for our freedom" war since World War II.
They played our patriotism like a violin.

We put puppet regimes in place after we ourselves send our kids in to die fighting, instead of their own pathetic, cowardly excuses for "men".
Then the puppets turn on us.

For the past several years, since the main war against Al Qaeda, our GI's have being murdered, crippled, maimed, and sacrificed purely for political reasons, and to make money for others. Our veterans are dumped onto a Veterans Administration that cannot or will not adequately care for their wounds, disabilities, and the PTSD most of them suffer with.
An entire generation of veterans is at risk.

I see where this gentleman is coming from.
I really do.

Let Haji and Faroukh die for their own worthless sand, "for their freedom."




I totally agree
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#3220451 - 04/12/13 01:47 PM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: 280longshot]
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It is time to Starve it. I am military as you know but its time.

Wasnt suppose to be a standing Army anyway. Only a militia in this country us. Then Orginized if needed to fight on this soil not on other soil. Many have forgotten and discarded it,
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#3220458 - 04/12/13 01:53 PM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: Stalkhunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Stalkhunter
It is time to Starve it. I am military as you know but its time.

Wasnt suppose to be a standing Army anyway. Only a militia in this country us. Then Orginized if needed to fight on this soil not on other soil. Many have forgotten and discarded it,


I'm there.

The US should become Switzerland.
Armed to the teeth, trained citizens that can be called up like the Minutemen of old.
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#3220483 - 04/12/13 02:15 PM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: sgtwebb1]
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U.S. Constitution - Article I, Section 8


Clause 12:

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;


Guess we just ignored that now didnt we
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#3220567 - 04/12/13 04:34 PM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: Stalkhunter]
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This is a picture of my left arm. You're looking at roughly $1000 worth of patriotic ink. I come from a long line of veterans and I attended USMC Officer Candidate School before washing out with a broken leg. I take my American pride very seriously and loved this country enough to sign up to kill and die for this land. That said, if any of my 3 boys come to me in the future looking to join the military; I'm going to do my level best to talk them out of it.

I can't properly put into words how it GRIEVES me to make this next statement; but I dont believe this country is worth dying for any more. On a local level, my neighbors are worth dying for: I'd lay it all down for Allardt, TN. Even the state of TN. But on a federal level, the progressives have run off and left the good guys.
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#3220588 - 04/12/13 05:16 PM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: AndyW]
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 Originally Posted By: AndyW

This is a picture of my left arm. You're looking at roughly $1000 worth of patriotic ink. I come from a long line of veterans and I attended USMC Officer Candidate School before washing out with a broken leg. I take my American pride very seriously and loved this country enough to sign up to kill and die for this land. That said, if any of my 3 boys come to me in the future looking to join the military; I'm going to do my level best to talk them out of it.

I can't properly put into words how it GRIEVES me to make this next statement; but I dont believe this country is worth dying for any more. On a local level, my neighbors are worth dying for: I'd lay it all down for Allardt, TN. Even the state of TN. But on a federal level, the progressives have run off and left the good guys.


Andy, that's exactly the sort of thing I had typed out last night, and deleted before I posted my original reply.

"I don't believe this country is worth dying for anymore."

I never, EVER thought I'd say or agree with that statement, but I have to agree.
Her people, individually, or in some groups, absolutely.
But this country isn't the same anymore, it's been headed on a freight train to hell since Reagan left office, and all it's done is pick up steam every 4 years.
It slowed a bit after 9/11, but it's at warp speed now.

Like I said earlier, this government isn't sending our GI's to fight "for our freedom" anymore.
The missions are vague, the politics are twisted, and the outcomes are always, always against our best interests. We simply back the wrong people, again and again.

My youngest son talks all the time about joining the Army in a few years.
I made up my mind awhile back.

Over my dead body.
I WILL NOT sacrifice my son for these Progressive elites and their shadowy schemes.

It's time they went away, and let us rebuild our country.

But we all know that isn't going to happen.
They won't go away without a fight.
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#3220603 - 04/12/13 05:35 PM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: sgtwebb1]
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I served from '93 - '98 and sadly, I find myself agreeing with the replies. I have been an outspoken supporter of cutting the DoD budget along with entitlement spending. It infuriates me to see "conservatives" like Senator John McCain, Sean Hannity, etc. absolutely refuse to consider reigning in the giant, bloated, wasteful, big-government bureaucracy called the Department of Defense.
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#3220604 - 04/12/13 05:35 PM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: sgtwebb1]
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Andy/ Sgtweb. I agree, I will defend my family , friends to my death on this soil. I dont give a crap what goes on in those other countries. Let them kill each other. But if you set foot on this soil with a standing army get ready or send terrorist or if this Gov and Elitist Jerks keeps doing what its doing with this tyranical leadership. Get ready.

There is only one way to rebuild this country


Edited by Stalkhunter (04/12/13 05:37 PM)
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#3220667 - 04/12/13 07:20 PM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: Stalkhunter]
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Out of respect for those currently serving, I felt it absolutely necessary to return to this thread and post:

Brave Warriors,

I am sorry. You definitely deserve better and my heart aches for EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU. Godspeed and come home soon.

Sincerely,
AndyW
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#3220709 - 04/12/13 08:09 PM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: AndyW]
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I stand behind the military in Harms way, I just dont stand with the Gov sending them there and the Same adminastration said they would bring them home a long time ago.
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#3220725 - 04/12/13 08:27 PM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: Stalkhunter]
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Damnation boys those are strong statements and I admire your courage for speaking your minds.
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#3221028 - 04/13/13 10:33 AM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: 348Winchester]
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I just think we need to get them out of there and totally reassess how we deploy our warriors.
As I said before, and others have said, I totally and completely support the warriors themselves.
You get orders, you you follow them.

I'm just sick and tired of them wasting the lives of good men and women.
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#3221082 - 04/13/13 01:47 PM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: sgtwebb1]
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My belief now is the USA should be like the Swiss country. Armed to the teeth stay out of the world affairs, trade only and if other countries want their prodocts here to include USA companies that moved over seas's tax the crap out of them. Put the people here back to work and make everything we need right here in this country.( we can do it and the rest of the world knows it, thats what there scared of.) Bring the Industrial Giant back to life.

Then if you try to invade this country on this soil or shoot something at Us you will pay the ultimate price. No need to send troops anywere anymore. Only time a standing force is need is if we are attacked on our soil. Shut the boardes down you come in illegally at your own risk.


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#3221170 - 04/13/13 05:16 PM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: Vermin93]
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I agree with the Switzerland sentiment. My brother was telling me that there's one country-- can't remember, may Israel-- that mandates every male between ages of 18 and 20something serves at least two yrs in the miltary. Doesn't matter if you're Infantry, or a Janitor, you still serve. That way, if the country should come under attack, you have the skills to help defent
the country.

It's probably easy for me to say, as I have never served in the military, thanks to a few medical issues. I wanted to be an Army MP, but asthma and hearing loss changed that. I've always had respect and admiration for our military, and for those that have served. I have family and friends whohave served.

I support our military. I don't agree with the way our politicians have used them.
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#3222169 - 04/14/13 11:12 PM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: moondawg]
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#3222276 - 04/15/13 08:25 AM Re: "Starve The Beast, Don't Join The Military" - War [Re: deermechanic]
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