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#3211009 - 04/01/13 09:57 PM The hornet's nest I love to poke!
Greg M
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Registered: 02/11/10
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Loc: Riverview, FL/ Bluff City, TN

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Okay, so a heated debate took place at the shop today about rebluing guns, with a non-customer mind you. Here's the 2 sided argument.

"Rebluing a gun destroys the value."
"No it doesn't. What makes you think that?"
"Because it's not the original finish"
"It's exactly the same as the original finish"
"But it's not the original finish".
"Okay, so if I have a 1953 Corvette that has rusted out fenders and faded paint, I sand it down to bare metal, prime it and paint it the exact same color and type of paint that GM used in 1953, did I destroy the value, or did I 'restore' the car?"
"Well, that's different"
"How?"
"Because the car was neglected"
"So was this gun"
"But it's not original if you reblue it"
"Neither is the Corvette"
"It's not the same"
"So, if I buy a run down 4000 square foot plantation house, gut it and rebuild it, did I hurt the value, or help it?"
"well, you helped it, but that's different"

This was when I threw my hands in the air and returned to my work. Hopefully, you laughed. Now, all of you hard cores can tell me how I'm destroying history's artifacts.
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#3211061 - 04/02/13 04:59 AM Re: The hornet's nest I love to poke! [Re: Greg M]
rdl65
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Registered: 03/08/08
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All depends on the gun. Re-bluing can decrease the value.
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#3211073 - 04/02/13 05:35 AM Re: The hornet's nest I love to poke! [Re: rdl65]
Model70Man
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Registered: 09/30/05
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Loc: Knoxville, TN

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I'm not rebluing my Pre-64 M70. It will decrease the value.
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#3211081 - 04/02/13 06:04 AM Re: The hornet's nest I love to poke! [Re: Model70Man]
KPH
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Registered: 08/06/05
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Loc: Hendersonville Tenn

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The trouble is most people thinks it does, so there for it does. Got a friend who had one reblued one day decided he didn't want it it any longer and it was a real good blue job. Nobody wanted it it because it had been reblued.
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#3211099 - 04/02/13 07:19 AM Re: The hornet's nest I love to poke! [Re: KPH]
Wildcat
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It depends on the gun. If it's a regular run of the mill gun that someone takes hunting and shooting all the time then by all means go for it.

But if it's a history artifact then leave it alone. On certain guns you CAN lower the value by re-bluing or ever re-finishing the stock.

There is a difference between old houses and old guns. If protected and taken care of old guns will last forever. A house on the other hand will rotten and decay in just a few years.
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#3211121 - 04/02/13 07:49 AM Re: The hornet's nest I love to poke! [Re: Wildcat]
WestTn Huntin'man
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Registered: 11/19/06
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A well kept original will always have more value on the open market.If something has not been well maintained Refurbishing may be the best way to preserve the item.Personally I hate rust.I know it is eating away and slowly destroying the metal.If it's rusting and it's mine I'm going to do something about it.
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#3211129 - 04/02/13 08:03 AM Re: The hornet's nest I love to poke! [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
paincave_2000
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Registered: 08/21/05
Posts: 2503
Loc: Bedford Co.

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I didn't know a Corvette had metal fenders, learn something new everyday.
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#3211143 - 04/02/13 08:28 AM Re: The hornet's nest I love to poke! [Re: Greg M]
gtk Moderator
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Registered: 01/26/01
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Loc: Mississippi

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 Originally Posted By: Greg M

"Okay, so if I have a 1953 Corvette that has rusted out fenders and faded paint, I sand it down to bare metal, prime it and paint it the exact same color and type of paint that GM used in 1953, did I destroy the value, or did I 'restore' the car?"

you increased the value of the car, as it sits in its "current condition". Butttttt. if that same car was all original AND in good shape, it would be worth a lot more that it would be as restored.

i understand reblueing a gun that is in poor condition, but if I had a collecter, I wouldn't reblue unless it was in terrible shape.
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#3211162 - 04/02/13 08:40 AM Re: The hornet's nest I love to poke! [Re: gtk]
Sako
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Registered: 01/19/05
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Loc: Knoxville

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if something is reblued I will always pass unless I buy it as a beater...

Keep this in mind... if it is a collector gun, Value is gone as it is not original... if t is a newer gun, I would not want it anyway since if it had to be relued someone did not take care of it... rebluing can cover up a significant amount of stuff and this often make people very weary.
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#3211276 - 04/02/13 10:23 AM Re: The hornet's nest I love to poke! [Re: Sako]
BigD_625
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Registered: 09/30/09
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IMO, the value depends on the buyer, not the gun. It's worth what you can get for it, or what it's worth to you as the owner (sentimental value and all). There's a trend in cars now that peopled would rather have a clear coated original paint job on a collector car than a restored original color paint job. I can't see why, but that's what people are buying. Collectors would probably rather have the original condition, where others might want the restored look.
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