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#3206973 - 03/28/13 07:18 PM Hack and squirt?
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When is the best time,or when is it not worth doing?

How deep to cut? Complete circle?

Garlon or Arsenal seems to be whats reccomended?Co op? Or where?

There are a few Im not gonna try,TO BIG!
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#3207145 - 03/28/13 09:02 PM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: Football Hunter]
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I have always done it in the late/mid summer when the sap is not running up.

I used tsc big and tuff. One good whack with the old axe.

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#3207444 - 03/29/13 07:51 AM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: TS_13]
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Late summer and early fall, when water is going down the trunk into the roots.

I use a mixture of Garlon and Arsenal, hacks all the way around the trunk, 3-4 inches apart.
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#3207445 - 03/29/13 07:52 AM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: BSK]
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In spring, your best bet is girlding. You can make a single girdle into which you squirt herbicide, or a double girdle without herbicide.
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#3210460 - 04/01/13 01:57 PM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: BSK]
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How do you guys make the girdle cut? Just scuff the bark off with a chainsaw?
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#3210781 - 04/01/13 06:52 PM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: Hunter 257W]
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What BSK said. The worst times are March and April with the best times being during the winter.

I like a 50:50 mix of Garlon 3-A with water. Cuts every 3-4 inches should do the trick. As BSK said, larger trees can be killed with a single chainsaw girdle with herbicide.
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#3210782 - 04/01/13 06:53 PM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: Hunter 257W]
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 Originally Posted By: Hunter 257W
How do you guys make the girdle cut? Just scuff the bark off with a chainsaw?


You need to penetrate the cambium layer. A good 3/4 to 1 inch deep cut all the way around will be sufficient.
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#3211112 - 04/02/13 07:41 AM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: String Music]
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 Originally Posted By: String Music
 Originally Posted By: Hunter 257W
How do you guys make the girdle cut? Just scuff the bark off with a chainsaw?


You need to penetrate the cambium layer. A good 3/4 to 1 inch deep cut all the way around will be sufficient.


Yup. As long as you can see the "core" wood of the tree, you've cut deep enough (through the water carrying cambium layer). One cut all the way around if you plan to spray herbicide in the cut. Two cuts all the way around (one above the other) without herbicide.
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#3211197 - 04/02/13 09:10 AM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: BSK]
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OK, thanks String Music and BSK.

Now if I could get better at identifying tree species so I'm sure that I'm killing what I want to kill.

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#3211465 - 04/02/13 01:57 PM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: Hunter 257W]
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For me, it's easy (for what I'm trying to accomplish). If it's not a true white, post, red or black oak, it dies!
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