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#3212309 - 04/03/13 11:47 AM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
For me, it's easy (for what I'm trying to accomplish). If it's not a true white, post, red or black oak, it dies!
Wow,Hickorys and Cherries bring good money,poplars too,but dont feed deer.
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#3212411 - 04/03/13 01:48 PM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: BSK
For me, it's easy (for what I'm trying to accomplish). If it's not a true white, post, red or black oak, it dies!
Wow,Hickorys and Cherries bring good money,poplars too,but dont feed deer.


Whacking down anything other than an oak does simplify things, don't it? And I can't argue too much against it either for deer management purposes. Although one buck I shot years ago had a stomach packed full of hickory nuts and I do mean packed full.

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#3213171 - 04/04/13 07:49 AM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: BSK
For me, it's easy (for what I'm trying to accomplish). If it's not a true white, post, red or black oak, it dies!
Wow,Hickorys and Cherries bring good money,poplars too,but dont feed deer.


Let me clarify "what I'm trying to accomplish." I'm only killing standing trees in areas that have already been logged. I'm trying to remove even more of the canopy than the loggers did, to increase sunlight on the ground and produce more early-stage regrowth. The trees I'm killing are trees that the loggers deemed of low marketable value and left standing. I'm protecting high habitat value oaks for their reseeding value (oak regeneration), while killing most everything else. In addition, 75% of the property is still mature timber that includes beeches, poplars, cherry, hickory, etc.

If I were attempting to improve 100% of the timber, I would be using a different system.
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#3214604 - 04/05/13 06:25 PM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: BSK
For me, it's easy (for what I'm trying to accomplish). If it's not a true white, post, red or black oak, it dies!
Wow,Hickorys and Cherries bring good money,poplars too,but dont feed deer.


Let me clarify "what I'm trying to accomplish." I'm only killing standing trees in areas that have already been logged. I'm trying to remove even more of the canopy than the loggers did, to increase sunlight on the ground and produce more early-stage regrowth. The trees I'm killing are trees that the loggers deemed of low marketable value and left standing. I'm protecting high habitat value oaks for their reseeding value (oak regeneration), while killing most everything else. In addition, 75% of the property is still mature timber that includes beeches, poplars, cherry, hickory, etc.

If I were attempting to improve 100% of the timber, I would be using a different system.
Thats makes sense,when I get rid of all my Beeches,if ever,WOW,trees will release,and browse will grow,going at it again tomorrow.
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#3215637 - 04/07/13 08:57 AM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: Football Hunter]
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Wow, after a day of cutting beeches to improve hunting visibility, and then double-girdling trees in timber thinned areas, I've come to the conclusion that girdling is NOT the way to kill hundreds of trees. Dozens, yes; hundreds, no. Way too physically demanding (and dangerous) on steep terrain.

I don't think I'll be able to lift my left arm for a few days! That chainsaw gets heavy after a full day of cutting, especially holding it at the height and angle necessary for girdling.
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#3216560 - 04/08/13 10:23 AM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Wow, after a day of cutting beeches to improve hunting visibility, and then double-girdling trees in timber thinned areas, I've come to the conclusion that girdling is NOT the way to kill hundreds of trees. Dozens, yes; hundreds, no. Way too physically demanding (and dangerous) on steep terrain.

I don't think I'll be able to lift my left arm for a few days! That chainsaw gets heavy after a full day of cutting, especially holding it at the height and angle necessary for girdling.
You aint kidding,decided this one was too big,but it wasnt easy just doing this.
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#3217673 - 04/09/13 01:59 PM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: Football Hunter]
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Check out this weeks http://www.growingdeer.tv show. Grant Woods talks most of the episode about the very topic.
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#3217901 - 04/09/13 07:10 PM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: Obsession]
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 Originally Posted By: Obsession
Check out this weeks http://www.growingdeer.tv show. Grant Woods talks most of the episode about the very topic.


X2 i was gonna just post the same thing!
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#3219133 - 04/11/13 07:22 AM Re: Hack and squirt? [Re: Obsession]
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 Originally Posted By: Obsession
Check out this weeks http://www.growingdeer.tv show. Grant Woods talks most of the episode about the very topic.


I have not used Roundup as a hack and squirt chemical. I wish Grant had mentioned what concentration he is using.

And the other downside is hack and squirt doesn't work well in spring or early summer.
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