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#3199128 - 03/21/13 09:08 AM Re: Mississippi Considers All Weapon Season [Re: Wes Parrish]
Rick Dillard
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
The big flaw in the Mississippi change is that it doesn't apply to those public lands that are otherwise hunted "same as statewide".


I think that it depends on a hunter's perspective. The restriction to primitive weapons (especially muzzleloader only) to some public lands may actually deter some hunters from going there thereby reducing hunting pressure and improving the quality of the hunt for those willing to abide by the restrictions.

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#3199210 - 03/21/13 09:58 AM Re: Mississippi Considers All Weapon Season [Re: Rick Dillard]
Wes Parrish
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That's a good point, Rick.

But generally speaking, I see this change as divisive, and overall doing more harm than good to the future of hunting. No reason certain WMA's and public lands can't have "special" regs, but the default should be "same as statewide" being the "same" as the state rules on private lands for hunting a public resource.

Just to throw in another perspective, imagine how divisive if duck decoys were not allowed on public lands, but were allowed on private lands. Ducks are a public resource, and it would be unfair to restrict their hunting differently (generally speaking) on public lands.

Or how about this. Let's say TN did exactly what MS just did, and look at how that would effect the deer hunting at President's Island WMA. President's Island has a private huntable inholding that is not a part of the WMA. It is also bordered nearby by some private huntable lands. What if these private lands were being gun hunted during September & October, instead of our current archery-only season? Would that adversely effect the archery-only hunt on President's Island?

Of course, PI is not one of those "same as statewide" public lands, but consider one such as Natchez Trace, which is relatively long and narrow, with most of it's deer traveling onto adjoining private properties. Those hunting private property adjoining the public lands would have a great advantage being able to hunt the same deer herd with a rifle while the public land hunt was limited to archery only.

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#3199259 - 03/21/13 10:38 AM Re: Mississippi Considers All Weapon Season [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Mud Dauber
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Wes,

There actually is a private hunting club on PI that hunts with rifles.

I do see your point, however, about the public land deal. MS has numerous regulations like this regarding public land. On public land, for example, you cannot kill does after rifle season opens. Non residents cannot kill does on public land at all.

In my humble humble opinion, the doe regs for public land are stupid. The state has a estimated deer population of 2 million deer. Give me one reason why there should be doe seasons on public land that don't exist on private land and why non residents are not allowed to kill does unless they own or lease land? Makes no sense.
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#3199267 - 03/21/13 10:41 AM Re: Mississippi Considers All Weapon Season [Re: Poser]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
Give me one reason why there should be doe seasons on public land that don't exist on private land and why non residents are not allowed to kill does unless they own or lease land? Makes no sense.

Politics.
Politicians get off in making rules that control others. Anything to grow any form of government, rules, and their empowerment. The reality is Mississippi's deer management may have less to do with real deer management and more to do with politicians' wanting to control things.

Mississippi has a great bunch of wildlife professionals, so this is not meant to come across derogatorily towards them. The problem is the politicians that trump the advise of wildlife professionals.

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#3199279 - 03/21/13 10:47 AM Re: Mississippi Considers All Weapon Season [Re: Poser]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
Wes,

There actually is a private hunting club on PI that hunts with rifles.

I know.
But at least under current law, they don't do it during September & October when the season segment is "archery only" on both TN's public & private lands.

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#3199306 - 03/21/13 11:08 AM Re: Mississippi Considers All Weapon Season [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Mud Dauber
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: Poser
Wes,

There actually is a private hunting club on PI that hunts with rifles.

I know.
But at least under current law, they don't do it during September & October when the season segment is "archery only" on both TN's public & private lands.


Gotchya.
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#3199316 - 03/21/13 11:11 AM Re: Mississippi Considers All Weapon Season [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Mud Dauber
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: Poser
Give me one reason why there should be doe seasons on public land that don't exist on private land and why non residents are not allowed to kill does unless they own or lease land? Makes no sense.

Politics.
Politicians get off in making rules that control others. Anything to grow any form of government, rules, and their empowerment. The reality is Mississippi's deer management may have less to do with real deer management and more to do with politicians' wanting to control things.

Mississippi has a great bunch of wildlife professionals, so this is not meant to come across derogatorily towards them. The problem is the politicians that trump the advise of wildlife professionals.


Yeah, that's what I've always heard, too. Specifically, the law about non residents is because a MS politician is afraid that Louisiana hunters will kill all of MS's deer.
Most residents MS hunters are not even aware of the non residents regs and surprised when you tell them.
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#3199372 - 03/21/13 11:51 AM Re: Mississippi Considers All Weapon Season [Re: Poser]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
Specifically, the law about non residents is because a MS politician is afraid that Louisiana hunters will kill all of MS's deer.

Actually, this MS politician was afraid of a single coonass named Troy Landry. Truth is, Mr. Landry is perfectly content hunting in LA, but citing him as the reason is as good as any.

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#3199417 - 03/21/13 12:36 PM Re: Mississippi Considers All Weapon Season [Re: Poser]
TLRanger
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I do like Wes's idea of archery only until Nov 01, then any type equipment beginning Nov 01 till the end of season.
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#3201723 - 03/23/13 04:48 PM Re: Mississippi Considers All Weapon Season [Re: TLRanger]
W.Seay
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 Originally Posted By: TLRanger
I do like Wes's idea of archery only until Nov 01, then any type equipment beginning Nov 01 till the end of season.



That would definitely be what I wanted!!
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