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#3194266 - 03/16/13 09:05 AM Re: IT'S TIME FOR RELIGION TO HAVE IT'S OWN FORUM [Re: Hardwoodmaterials]
BMan
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 Originally Posted By: Hardwoodmaterials
Gut Bucket has been chastised for nothing more than not believing the way the ones that have posted believe.

Gut Bucket is being chastised because he is trying to stifle others' ability to voice their opinions.

I can't speak for how his, or your, internet browser works, but mine only opens the topics I choose to read.

Don't want to read about religion or others' beliefs? Don't open the topic - but don't B&M that other people want to discuss those areas.
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#3194277 - 03/16/13 09:29 AM Re: IT'S TIME FOR RELIGION TO HAVE IT'S OWN FORUM [Re: RUGER]
GFY
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According to the logic of most posters, it would be okay for me to post a thread about kiddie porn and if folks don't like it, just don't open it... I don't think so.

To me, the bottom line is this:

 Originally Posted By: RUGER

About all I can do is say this.
Since I feel that way and I own the joint


The man runs the site like he see's fit. I personally like it, or I wouldn't be here. I would guess most folks here don't come because they don't like it.

-GFY

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#3194285 - 03/16/13 09:35 AM Re: IT'S TIME FOR RELIGION TO HAVE IT'S OWN FORUM [Re: Hardwoodmaterials]
Bottom Hunter
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 Originally Posted By: Hardwoodmaterials
 Originally Posted By: fishboy1

Where he gets off track is the arrogant, disrespectful, ignorant viewpoint that other people's opinions are inferior to his and should be silenced.

Silencing other people's opinions is a lame way of trying to "win" without even looking at your own cards. It is the way of the bully, the lazy, the tyrant, and the child.



This is the definition of religion! It's also why I refuse to participate in the whole thing! Some of you need to look back at the history of religion and you will see that religious groups have always tried to indoctrinate all people and dominate the world for their own benefit. They have also always tried to eliminate free thought and make sure there is a penalty for not bending to their way of thinking. Even this thread proves it.

Gut Bucket has been chastised for nothing more than not believing the way the ones that have posted believe. That is the way the Christian religion and it's followers try to force you in to their beliefs in this day and time. At different points in history they have used the threat of death, fear of eternal damnation and now they use the fear of being cast aside to get even non believers to donate to the church and say they believe anything the church says!

Some of you need to take a good look at the history of your religion before you assume that you are superior to anyone that has a different religious view point.

Religion in all forms historically has been good for one thing, WAR! I don't have to prove it to you. All you have to do is take a look at any historical documents. Now if most of you would stop "stoning" gut Bucket for a minute, step back and take a look at this whole thread I am pretty sure you will find what most are doing is no where near what the bible (that you all say you live by) teaches. I thought it taught acceptance, love and peace but then again they might have rewritten it to suit the times AGAIN!

Before anyone even asks I grew up with a religious family and think the bible has some good life lessons between the covers. I also think most of the 10 commandments are a good guideline to live your life by. BUT I just can't buy into religion as a whole and really find it odd that some try to force it on others just to try to make themselves feel better.



The Christian religions are the bloodiest of all the religions. They are also the most corrupt. I feel sorry for all the "honest" Christians because they seem to get lumped in to the whole "profitable" Christians.

I often wonder why Christians are so insecure .....? Their religion is still the most popular and most profitable of all religions. The three main churches in my tiny little town remodel and add on all the time....seemingly spending a great deal of money to outdo the other, while that money could do a lot of good in the community.

Those insecurities possess power that makes people protest and boycott everything from fast food joints to their fellow man.

And I agree that whether it is as God intended or not, religious groups do tend to bully all others.....contradicting everything religion SHOULD be about, imo.

Religion will not be the saving grace of man but more his downfall.

It is my belief that God will not destroy Earth, but instead Man will in the name of God.

When it comes to faith, those that possess it hold on to it with all their might, even if it means destroying everything around them to do so.

I have doubts about alot of things religions says....But, one thing I do not doubt is that if there truly is a God and He is all we hope that He is, then He is not pleased with how Christianity has changed since the days of Jesus.....

JMO
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#3194290 - 03/16/13 09:38 AM Re: IT'S TIME FOR RELIGION TO HAVE IT'S OWN FORUM [Re: Hardwoodmaterials]
44fanatic
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 Originally Posted By: Hardwoodmaterials
Religion in all forms historically has been good for one thing, WAR!


Lets not forget that religious values are the basic fundamentals of our basic laws. They establish good order within our societies. As for war, religion has been blamed many times, but if you look at the root of it, its the expansion of power and influence.
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#3194298 - 03/16/13 09:44 AM Re: IT'S TIME FOR RELIGION TO HAVE IT'S OWN FORUM [Re: Bottom Hunter]
GFY
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 Originally Posted By: Bottom Hunter
 Originally Posted By: Hardwoodmaterials
 Originally Posted By: fishboy1

Where he gets off track is the arrogant, disrespectful, ignorant viewpoint that other people's opinions are inferior to his and should be silenced.

Silencing other people's opinions is a lame way of trying to "win" without even looking at your own cards. It is the way of the bully, the lazy, the tyrant, and the child.



This is the definition of religion! It's also why I refuse to participate in the whole thing! Some of you need to look back at the history of religion and you will see that religious groups have always tried to indoctrinate all people and dominate the world for their own benefit. They have also always tried to eliminate free thought and make sure there is a penalty for not bending to their way of thinking. Even this thread proves it.

Gut Bucket has been chastised for nothing more than not believing the way the ones that have posted believe. That is the way the Christian religion and it's followers try to force you in to their beliefs in this day and time. At different points in history they have used the threat of death, fear of eternal damnation and now they use the fear of being cast aside to get even non believers to donate to the church and say they believe anything the church says!

Some of you need to take a good look at the history of your religion before you assume that you are superior to anyone that has a different religious view point.

Religion in all forms historically has been good for one thing, WAR! I don't have to prove it to you. All you have to do is take a look at any historical documents. Now if most of you would stop "stoning" gut Bucket for a minute, step back and take a look at this whole thread I am pretty sure you will find what most are doing is no where near what the bible (that you all say you live by) teaches. I thought it taught acceptance, love and peace but then again they might have rewritten it to suit the times AGAIN!

Before anyone even asks I grew up with a religious family and think the bible has some good life lessons between the covers. I also think most of the 10 commandments are a good guideline to live your life by. BUT I just can't buy into religion as a whole and really find it odd that some try to force it on others just to try to make themselves feel better.



The Christian religions are the bloodiest of all the religions. They are also the most corrupt. I feel sorry for all the "honest" Christians because they seem to get lumped in to the whole "profitable" Christians.

I often wonder why Christians are so insecure .....? Their religion is still the most popular and most profitable of all religions. The three main churches in my tiny little town remodel and add on all the time....seemingly spending a great deal of money to outdo the other, while that money could do a lot of good in the community.

Those insecurities possess power that makes people protest and boycott everything from fast food joints to their fellow man.

And I agree that whether it is as God intended or not, religious groups do tend to bully all others.....contradicting everything religion SHOULD be about, imo.

Religion will not be the saving grace of man but more his downfall.

It is my belief that God will not destroy Earth, but instead Man will in the name of God.

When it comes to faith, those that possess it hold on to it with all their might, even if it means destroying everything around them to do so.

I have doubts about alot of things religions says....But, one thing I do not doubt is that if there truly is a God and He is all we hope that He is, then He is not pleased with how Christianity has changed since the days of Jesus.....

JMO


I've heard.......
that.........................
using a lot.....of................
periods...........................................................................................................................
is a ...................
sign of ...... insecurity.........................


-GFY

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#3194307 - 03/16/13 09:55 AM Re: IT'S TIME FOR RELIGION TO HAVE IT'S OWN FORUM [Re: GFY]
Deer Whisperer
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I come here to sit around the campfire with my friends and family and talk about life in general. If someone wants to talk about religion or ask for prayers, I will not ask them to leave my campfire and go to another one.
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#3194309 - 03/16/13 10:04 AM Re: IT'S TIME FOR RELIGION TO HAVE IT'S OWN FORUM [Re: Bottom Hunter]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: Bottom Hunter
If this was a few years ago, you'd be reading a novel from me about now, or not...lol.

As for Gut Bucket's request....I don't see it as so "out of line"..

If this is indeed a christian based site, then what better way to show your faith than to have a religious forum for prayer requests, testimonials and passages from the Bible for people to read when they are feeling the need for some uplifting. It just seems that having all the threads right there, easy to find and read, then that would be better than having to search through pages and pages of some of the silly and hate driven topics there usually are in the general forum, right?

If so many OTHER topics deserve their own forum, why not religion?

To me, NOT having a forum specifically for religion, is basically saying that it is not worthy of it's own forum.

Simple prayer requests may still be fine on the general, but topics about religion and Bible verses...etc., might better serve the readers in need of strength if they are more easily accessible.

JMO....





explain to me why it is a bad idea for prayer and bible verses to be in the general forum.

I bet a separate forum would not be viewed as much and people would overlook things. "Saying that its not worthy of its own forum" - you are right, it's not worthy of its own forum, it deserves better than that. Everyone visits the general forum so everyone can see the prayer requests and verses and if they don't want to see them then they don't have to click on them.

If we need a separate religion forum then we also need a separate liberal forum so we don't have to read your twisted liberal ideals in the general forum. Oh but wait... Liberal ideals are not worthy of their own forum.

lol.....
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#3194316 - 03/16/13 10:13 AM Re: IT'S TIME FOR RELIGION TO HAVE IT'S OWN FORUM [Re: bigluresonly]
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Did you all notice that all the ones that want a religion forum also support Obama and the democrat politices??? Some of them ever came out right after Sandy Hook and supported the gun ban.

And now they want us off THEIR FORUM.
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#3194318 - 03/16/13 10:19 AM Re: IT'S TIME FOR RELIGION TO HAVE IT'S OWN FORUM [Re: Wildcat]
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 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
Did you all notice that all the ones that want a religion forum also support Obama and the democrast politices??? Some of them ever came out right after Sandy Hook and supported the gun ban.

And now they want us off THEIR FORUM.


I dont know why I am laughing at this post....great one WC.
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#3194319 - 03/16/13 10:20 AM Re: IT'S TIME FOR RELIGION TO HAVE IT'S OWN FORUM [Re: Bottom Hunter]
Vermin93
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Sigh...no shocker here.

 Originally Posted By: Bottom Hunter
The Christian religions are the bloodiest of all the religions. They are also the most corrupt.


The world's aetheist leaders have been responsible for more killing and corruption than all religions combined, but that's a historical view. Let's talk modern day. Where are these Christians doing all this bloodletting these days?

 Originally Posted By: Bottom Hunter
I feel sorry for all the "honest" Christians because they seem to get lumped in to the whole "profitable" Christians.


Just because you lump "honest" Christians in with "profitable" ones doesn't mean everyone does. I'm pretty sure most "honest" Christians don't want your pity.

 Originally Posted By: Bottom Hunter
I often wonder why Christians are so insecure .....?


Nice generalization. I could say the same about you. Why don't you give us some examples of religions or social demographics that are not so insecure.

 Originally Posted By: Bottom Hunter
Those insecurities possess power that makes people protest and boycott everything from fast food joints to their fellow man.


So having principled beliefs and actually standing for something is demonstrating insecurities. Rather than boycotting, maybe Christians should resort to suicide vests and martyrdom. \

Maybe you can better relate to this: Liberals trying to decide where to eat with all the liberal boycotts

 Originally Posted By: Bottom Hunter
And I agree that whether it is as God intended or not, religious groups do tend to bully all others.....contradicting everything religion SHOULD be about, imo.


How have religious groups "bullied" you? Or are you just overly sensitive and uncomfortable with the subject of God and religion?

 Originally Posted By: Bottom Hunter
When it comes to faith, those that possess it hold on to it with all their might, even if it means destroying everything around them to do so.


So all those with faith eventually become desperately destructive. Basically, faith is a bad thing. Got it.
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