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#3192314 - 03/13/13 11:30 PM Venison Shoulder Roast: French Dip
TAFKAP
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I had planned on doing a Philly cheesesteak dinner tonight with a pair of smaller "football" shoulder roasts. The meat came out so good, I didn't want to drown it in peppers & onions, so we opted for French dip sandwiches instead.

The goal was to produce deli-style, thin-sliced roast beef type of meat. This entire thing was an experiment, and since I had never tried this before (with any meat), some of these steps may seem pointless, but the goal was to get a nicely roasted meat, without drying it into jerky, as the shoulder had about 0% fat content. But, since it was such a success, I'll continue doing everything below:

1) Generously salt the meat and liberally coat in granulated garlic & ground black pepper.....let it sit at least an hour at room temperature, at least until most of the liquid on the plate is reabsorbed into the meat


2) Pat the roasts dry and rub olive oil all over the meat. Place the meat on a rack, which is set over a shallow pan full of water. The water's purpose is two-fold: catch the drippings to prevent smoke buildup (and to use for an au jus, as well), but also to keep moisture in the oven to keep the meat from drying out. As an added precaution, I covered it in a Pyrex casserole dish. I have no idea if this helped, or even did anything at all, but the meat didn't turn to jerky.


3) I roasted the meat for 2 hours in a 225 oven. I think next time, I'll keep it at 2 hours, but reduce the oven to 200 degrees. The meat was still pink, but I would've preferred it to be a little pinker. Notice the netting....since this is a de-boned shoulder, I opted to keep the netting on there to maintain the roast shape. After numerous back-and-forth texts with Poser, I opted to leave the major silverskin layer on (it ended up drawing up into an easily removable wad after all the cooking was over).

At this point, the meat is actually "done", but is a pale looking wad of unappetizing muscle mass.

4) Time for the browning phase.....remove the Pyrex (and the netting, since it's now cooked and will hold its shape), and pop it back in the oven, now set at 450 degrees, for right at 10 minutes. This gives a nice brown exterior, while helping maintain a large portion of the nice pink interior.

5) I let it rest for about an hour, then I covered it in plastic wrap and stuck it in the fridge overnight. I sliced some off this morning to check the doneness (and have a flavor test ;\) ) It's a nice, uniform light pink.....Initially, i was going to use a thermometer, but decided against it. One less way to lose moisture. Also, I poured off the flavorful drip pan water into a jar and stuck it in the fridge as well.

This tasted absolutely awesome. It was at this point I called the audible and decided for a more simple French dip.


6) Dinner prep tonight was to slice it as thinly as possible. While slicing, I let the drip water reduce on the stove, skimming the foam off the to. In case it wasn't going to be enough, I bought a can of Campbell's Beef Consommé. Mrs. TAFKAP sauteed a minced shallot in the pan, then mixed the consommé in along with the drip pan reduction. Low simmer on that until dinner. Sorry, no liquid pics. The evening sun in the kitchen revealed the meat to be actually quite pink....I still think I'd drop to 200 for (2) hours.


7) Slightly chop the thin slices into bite-sized pieces


Then load into a sandwich.....multi-grain hoagie rolls from Fresh Market and some provolone slices. We also decided to brown some mushrooms with red onions, just to add a little bulk to the meat.....good call, since it might not've been enough food, otherwise. Pop it in the oven under a broiler to melt the cheese (I added some onions on top of mine, since there were some left over)


And.....ENJOY!

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#3192315 - 03/13/13 11:33 PM Re: Venison Shoulder Roast: French Dip [Re: TAFKAP]
TAFKAP
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Once we explained it to him, TAFKAP Jr. REALLY liked the idea of dipping his sandwich in the "soup".
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#3192623 - 03/14/13 11:53 AM Re: Venison Shoulder Roast: French Dip [Re: TAFKAP]
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Mud Dauber
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This looks really good and a excellent use of roast meat.
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#3192626 - 03/14/13 11:58 AM Re: Venison Shoulder Roast: French Dip [Re: TAFKAP]
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Dude, that looks great!

I will cry if I can't knock down at least 3 deer this season, because I arrogantly gave away my third one this year thinking I would kill more (then failed in that attempt).

I really want to dedicate at least one whole deer to major muscle groups, where I can do some recipes like this. This looks like a great plan to have some leftovers as well, which is my goal for almost every meal cooked.

This year I just have steaks, ground meat, and some whole tenderloins. The latter isn't anything to sneeze at, I just don't have enough!

If I can't get into a mess of white bass or crappie soon, we're going to eat through the venison before June rolls around.

thanks for sharing - I am going to spend a lot of time looking through old posts on this forum this fall/winter.
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#3192639 - 03/14/13 12:12 PM Re: Venison Shoulder Roast: French Dip [Re: Crosshairy]
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Looks great!
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#3192642 - 03/14/13 12:17 PM Re: Venison Shoulder Roast: French Dip [Re: Crosshairy]
BuckWild
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That looks nasty...you shouldn't be feeding your family that type of low class peasant food. Just wrap up the leftovers and drop them at my house and I'll be glad to properly dispose the rest of that under cooked mess.... \:D \:D
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#3192667 - 03/14/13 12:47 PM Re: Venison Shoulder Roast: French Dip [Re: BuckWild]
TAFKAP
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 Originally Posted By: BuckWild
That looks nasty...you shouldn't be feeding your family that type of low class peasant food. Just wrap up the leftovers and drop them at my house and I'll be glad to properly dispose the rest of that under cooked mess.... \:D \:D


Leftovers? We don't have no steeenkeeng leftovers!
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#3192715 - 03/14/13 01:25 PM Re: Venison Shoulder Roast: French Dip [Re: TAFKAP]
Andy S.
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Looks great, thanks for sharing.
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#3192817 - 03/14/13 04:46 PM Re: Venison Shoulder Roast: French Dip [Re: TAFKAP]
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 Originally Posted By: TAFKAP





Look at that poor kid. Get him some Mcnuggets quick! (I'll take the sammich)
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#3193621 - 03/15/13 04:46 PM Re: Venison Shoulder Roast: French Dip [Re: BamaProud]
TAFKAP
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We're proud to say that he's never had a McNugget ;\)
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