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#3190009 - 03/11/13 05:41 PM Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight
matt_brown
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OK. Last march I applied for 3 suppressors. One was a .223 on was a .22 LR integral and the other was a .30 cal suppressor. I received my paperwork for the integral suppressor before Christmas and I went to pick up my pistol no problem. I love it. It sounds great wouldn't ask for anything more. January I get a phone call he says I got your paperwork come get you " can" I go there he tries to bs me for a couple hrs till I start getting aggravated. He gives me a can that is not mime and does not match my serial number which could have got both are a$$put in prison and tells me that he will have it ready Monday. Well its Monday. I go by there after waiting 2 hrs he finally has his workers finish my suppressor. I get my can with the correct serial number and my paperwork and leave

January I get a text "when you gonna get your can and your paperwork. I go the next day to pick up my can he says well its not safe for you to shoot cause it had a bullet strike on it so I agree and leave my gun after 2 weeks I call and ask for my gun back. I've contacted him since asking for at least a refund on the suppressor and the only response I get is no . What can I do to get my money or my suppressor I don't want to get a lawyer because I'm going to have to much money tied up in this. I only gave $350 for the .223 $350 for the .30 cal and $300 for the integral suppressor. I'm to the point now to where I'm ready to forget him and start this cycle all over again like I should have in the first place eliteiron.com someone please help before I go over the edge on this shi!!y business



Edited by matt_brown (03/11/13 06:11 PM)

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#3190054 - 03/11/13 06:28 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: matt_brown]
W C
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This is why you buy NFA toys from a VERY reputable, nationally known manufacturer/dealer. You'll endure the same long wait for shiity work as you will for A+ top shelf work. In the end that economy stuff didn't save you a dime.
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#3190063 - 03/11/13 06:34 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: W C]
matt_brown
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I know I know. I was trying to do the "right" thing and support the local guy. Paid up front expected the best and got the worst. he said he had to change the design. isn't that a felony???? I thought the atf had the design that you chose to use and that's what you produced if he is changing the design I want him to fail. I don't like getting taken advantage of. I understand that he is covered up by AR orders because of what happened in conn but he still needs to take care of us little guys instead of the big spenders
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#3190096 - 03/11/13 07:09 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: matt_brown]
matt_brown
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Isn't this fraud? I thought once the suppressor was in my name it had to be in my possession? What if this guy uses it in a crime or if it gets stolen? Who's the atf going to come looking for? Its in my name
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#3190117 - 03/11/13 07:36 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: matt_brown]
W C
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Yes, it's a problem for him if he refuses to release the suppressor when the Form 4 is approved to you or your Trust, LLC, Corp, etc. If you want to try and handle it 'nicely' you could tell him that you want 100% refund(you're still out $200 to the ATF) OR you're calling the ATF to report that he's holding your can hostage. They will be up his [censored] like PrepH and depending on what a visit by them to check his books reveals it might get real bad for him.
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#3190124 - 03/11/13 07:45 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: W C]
UPSman
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Piss on him. Call the ATF and let him try to explain to them what his hold up is. The ATF doesn't take to kindly to jackoffs....ask the guys at Red Jacket.
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#3190151 - 03/11/13 08:01 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: UPSman]
matt_brown
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I sent him a text the other day saying " do you think I've not waited long enough? You've had a year to fix the suppressor and you haven't done anything. I will eat the $200 background check. can I just want my money back?" . his reply "no"
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#3190171 - 03/11/13 08:14 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: matt_brown]
Carlos Viagra
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Communicating thru texts is a bad idea IMO.
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#3190191 - 03/11/13 08:25 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: Carlos Viagra]
matt_brown
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He won't answer my phone calls. Cause I chew his [censored] for him every time I talk to him.
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#3190204 - 03/11/13 08:32 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: matt_brown]
UPSman
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Burn his azz...
http://www.atf.gov/field/nashville/fo-tennessee.html
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#3190229 - 03/11/13 08:45 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: UPSman]
matt_brown
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I agree especially since I just got off the phone with him and he told me that I've been a pain in his azz every since I knew the paperwork came back and that he was going to give my money back and he didn't ever want to hear from me again then he says no I'm not giving your money back I'm going to finish it and your going to like it. when I ask him when he was going to finish it he said it was going to be a long time because every time I call him he drags his feet that much longer.

Well... I hate it for the ol boy. I'm tired of getting screwed. I hope the atf has a field day with him. for all I care he can use that suppressor as a paper weight. Chalk that one up as a $550 mistake

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#3190321 - 03/11/13 09:48 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: matt_brown]
UPSman
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I'd get $ 550 of joy watching being there to watch him in front of .gov.
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#3190812 - 03/12/13 02:09 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: UPSman]
matt_brown
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I called the atf and this guy said that its not a big deal. He said that the guy could deny my business and I ask him what would happen to the paperwork he said just rip it up and throw it in the trash. I was kinda on edge when he said this. I said so I've got the form 4 in my name that says I own a suppressor and your telling me to rip the paper up and throw it in the trash but what happens if or when the atf comes to the house and wants to see the suppressors am I suppose to tell them that i never got it. I'm sure that is going to go over really well

I am beside myself I was expecting something a little different. kinda like kicking down doors with the guns blazing. Looks like I just lost $550 BTW. Don't do business with Mohawk armory.


Edited by matt_brown (03/12/13 02:15 PM)

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#3190980 - 03/12/13 06:08 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: matt_brown]
W C
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Did you call the NFA branch or just the ATF? BIG difference. I'd call back to the NFA branch and ask for Ted Clutter.
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#3190997 - 03/12/13 06:34 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: UPSman]
matt_brown
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I called the knoxville field office resident agent in charge in Knoxville. I'm going to call the headquarters tomorrow and see what they have to say. I think all these guys around here are buddy buddy

Edited by matt_brown (03/12/13 06:51 PM)

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#3191002 - 03/12/13 06:38 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: matt_brown]
matt_brown
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Hey W C can you get me a phone number?????? Pretty please
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#3191369 - 03/13/13 07:06 AM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: matt_brown]
W C
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Here ya go...

(304) 616-4500
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Obama gets to have it both ways. He claims black from his father and American from his mother. Claiming to be a white Kenyan wouldn't get him very far though would it?

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#3192237 - 03/13/13 09:44 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: W C]
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Interesting.
Looking forward to the outcome.
Hope you get your money back.
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#3192756 - 03/14/13 02:36 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: RUGER]
Grizzly Johnson
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 Originally Posted By: RUGER
Interesting.
Looking forward to the outcome.
Hope you get your money back.


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#3192767 - 03/14/13 02:57 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
matt_brown
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I've called the NFA ATF twice today left messages both times. Still waiting on a call back
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#3192777 - 03/14/13 03:21 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: matt_brown]
Grizzly Johnson
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Don't know how much it would matter, but if he is a business.... might get the BBB involved if he still refuses to refund your money.
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#3192802 - 03/14/13 03:58 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
matt_brown
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I tried he's not accredited by them
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#3192955 - 03/14/13 08:03 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: matt_brown]
Gravey
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If the ATF doesn't call back I'd make a trip to their office. Good luck no matter what.
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#3193591 - 03/15/13 04:19 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: Gravey]
W C
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Anything new to report?
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Obama gets to have it both ways. He claims black from his father and American from his mother. Claiming to be a white Kenyan wouldn't get him very far though would it?

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#3193605 - 03/15/13 04:31 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: W C]
matt_brown
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I just got off the phone with the nfa branch and he allowed that he did not have jurisdictions over this area and that I would have to have the local officer investigate it. He also told me that the transfer is not complete till he hands me the suppressor and he logs it out of his books. He did tell me that before the suppressor was applied for he was suppose to have a working product. This is the biggest circus I've ever seen. If I was to even attempt to make my own or do anything illegal they would have me in prison before I could blink. Its took me 3 days to get through to them and now everyone wants me to call someone else.
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#3193609 - 03/15/13 04:36 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: matt_brown]
matt_brown
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He could actually rip the papers up and throw them away and nothing would happen. I have applied for the suppressor and everything came back OK but its not mine until its in my possession he has to log it out of his books when its out of his possession
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#3193624 - 03/15/13 04:52 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: matt_brown]
cecil30-30
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Send him a email with the link to this thread..Might get his attention.This is no way to do business..Tndeer is 11954 members strong.Im sure anyone thinking of doing business with him and seen this thread would surely think twice before giving this idiot any money.
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#3193644 - 03/15/13 05:23 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: cecil30-30]
W C
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Post a link on Silencertalk.com and on Snipershide in their Suppressor forum
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#3193658 - 03/15/13 05:47 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: W C]
matt_brown
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I tried to on silencer talk it will not accept my email address. if any of you guys would like to spread the word feel free. If you will let me what website you post this link to I will join and answer any questions other member have
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#3204922 - 03/26/13 08:15 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: matt_brown]
matt_brown
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Still waiting!!!!!
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#3212816 - 04/03/13 08:06 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: UPSman]
matt_brown
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After giving up hope on ever getting my suppressor I get a phone call today. finally got it only 4 months and 8 days after my form 4 was approved needless to say. I'm never doing business with Mohawk armory again
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#3213354 - 04/04/13 10:32 AM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: UPSman]
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Congrats!

Edited by Team Browning (04/04/13 10:33 AM)
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#3214053 - 04/05/13 04:09 AM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: Team Browning]
hunter drew
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Well how does it work
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#3214324 - 04/05/13 10:36 AM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: hunter drew]
matt_brown
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It cut the sound in half. Its heavy and its 2 in diameter. I have some friends that own elite iron suppressors. there 338 and 300 win mag suppressor is quieter almost a lb lighter and is only 1.5 in in diameter
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#3227847 - 04/21/13 12:23 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: matt_brown]
matt_brown
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I weighed my prized Mohawk armory suppressors on a set of digital fishing scales the .223 weighs in at 3lbs even and the .308 weighs in @ 3 lbs 6 oz
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#3228932 - 04/22/13 08:09 PM Re: Mohawk armory so mad i cant see straight [Re: matt_brown]
tasaman
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I say hang him out to dry. I hate liars.
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