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#3181255 - 03/02/13 02:51 PM About finished
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This is the 8 pt buck skull I found on my uncles property early this week. It's my first EVER find so I've been cleaning it up for a euro mount.

When I found it, with some skin and hair still on it.



This is after cleaning it up. I didn't want it 100% white, cause I think it has a little character like this.



This is a close up shot of an antler, so is this weathering or some type of animal chew? Also is there any way of telling how long it's been dead?



Thanks for looking.
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#3181276 - 03/02/13 03:24 PM Re: About finished [Re: Outdoor life]
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I believe that deer died back in the summer before the antlers was done growing and it still had velvet on it.
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#3181329 - 03/02/13 04:17 PM Re: About finished [Re: cecil30-30]
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When you first posted a pic I thought that the rack hadn't finished shedding all the velvet off the tip.
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#3181429 - 03/02/13 05:38 PM Re: About finished [Re: Mike Belt]
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Alright thanks! It never came to me that the deer died in velvet, but that does explain the anters. Because it didn't look like a chew to me and normally weathering just bleaches it out, and doesn't do that, because the tips of 4 of the points look like that.

Of course that's not skin or anything causing the tips to look brown, it's more like the white just never reached the tips before he died.
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#3183941 - 03/05/13 08:43 AM Re: About finished [Re: Outdoor life]
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Outdoor life,

Although I've not seen it mentioned in scientific literature, I've noticed that bucks who suffered from EHD during the late summer sometimes do not mineralize the tips of their antler points and beams, leaving the tips dark in color and soft to the touch (usually you can dig your fingernails into the antler material). Now I don't know if this is specific to EHD infection or just as symptom of not finishing the mineralization process due to any cause, but that is probably why the antlers you found look they way they do--the buck died before his antlers had finished mineralizing, and that might indicate he died of EHD.
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#3183979 - 03/05/13 09:04 AM Re: About finished [Re: BSK]
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good job getting it cleaned up Outdoor Life, looks good!
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#3184268 - 03/05/13 02:04 PM Re: About finished [Re: mathews338]
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 Originally Posted By: mathews338
good job getting it cleaned up Outdoor Life, looks good!


Thank you! First time I've tried it by myself.
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#3184280 - 03/05/13 02:11 PM Re: About finished [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Outdoor life,

Although I've not seen it mentioned in scientific literature, I've noticed that bucks who suffered from EHD during the late summer sometimes do not mineralize the tips of their antler points and beams, leaving the tips dark in color and soft to the touch (usually you can dig your fingernails into the antler material). Now I don't know if this is specific to EHD infection or just as symptom of not finishing the mineralization process due to any cause, but that is probably why the antlers you found look they way they do--the buck died before his antlers had finished mineralizing, and that might indicate he died of EHD.


I hope it's not EHD, but those darker tips are soft compared to the white, in fact I could probably scratch it with my fingernail if I wanted to.

Thanks for that info though, I'll probably go back there sometime this week when it warms up shed hunting and see if I find any other dead deer in the area as well. This property follows a river so it wanting to be closer to water would also make sense for EHD.
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#3184466 - 03/05/13 04:46 PM Re: About finished [Re: Outdoor life]
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 Originally Posted By: Outdoor life
I hope it's not EHD...


Just remember that 1) EHD is not contageous; and 2) some EHD infections occur in TN every year. Finding a deer or two dead of the disease any year is not something to worry about. We only hear about EHD during the big outbreaks, but minor EHD levels are endemic in TN (some deer have it every year).
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#3184607 - 03/05/13 06:57 PM Re: About finished [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Outdoor life
I hope it's not EHD...


Just remember that 1) EHD is not contageous; and 2) some EHD infections occur in TN every year. Finding a deer or two dead of the disease any year is not something to worry about. We only hear about EHD during the big outbreaks, but minor EHD levels are endemic in TN (some deer have it every year).


Yes I know that EHD happens every year, but it is spread by a biting midge, which usually means where one dies, another close by dies, and where I live, the deer population was finally starting to increase, so any deaths in the already low buck population around here hurts.
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