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#3178638 - 02/27/13 09:21 PM Re: Another 300 WSM Quest [Re: Model70Man]
Jcalder
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Not sure where the bad info is.
Model70. I load the Barnes for a savage model 11 hog hunter. The 44.6 grains of varget in my gun (savage mod 10) works well with sierra gameking bthp. But I load a bit under published oal to get off the lands.
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#3178640 - 02/27/13 09:21 PM Re: Another 300 WSM Quest [Re: mr.big]
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 Originally Posted By: mr.big
if you shoot the one grain increment loads at the same target you should be able to see the sweet spot also,,when you see two or three different charges start grouping together you are on the accuracy node,,say if 64,65 and 66 grs are in a close group with the others stringing ,you will find a good shooting load around 85 grs,


So add 20 grains of powder to you best shooting group?



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#3178644 - 02/27/13 09:24 PM Re: Another 300 WSM Quest [Re: ewc]
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I do agree with ewc on max loads with Barnes bullets. I don't see how they get all that powder in the case and the bullet seated to their depth.
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#3178646 - 02/27/13 09:29 PM Re: Another 300 WSM Quest [Re: Jcalder]
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 Originally Posted By: Jcalder
Not sure where the bad info is.
Model70. I load the Barnes for a savage model 11 hog hunter. The 44.6 grains of varget in my gun (savage mod 10) works well with sierra gameking bthp. But I load a bit under published oal to get off the lands.


How fast is it going? And why did you load a lesser oal? And why are you nervous about touching the lands? (assuming you can...)

No offense, but if you can't measure some of these things, you are just guessing and reading on the internet.

Please take no offense to the questions, as they are sincere and I am only pointing out mistakes I have made.

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#3178660 - 02/27/13 09:46 PM Re: Another 300 WSM Quest [Re: ewc]
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I'm not taking offense by any means. I believe the published oal for that bullet is 2.750. At 2.740 I'm on the lands. A guy I work with who helped me get started suggested staying off the lands so that's been my rule of thumb. And that load has produced several good groups. Alot of 3 shot groups with 2 holes. All other loads that I've produced have generally been longer than published oal. I'm not against touching the lands if it shoots well and no pressure issues have developed. Not sure what my velocities are. I know I'm over max according to the sierra manual with the varget load
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#3178670 - 02/27/13 09:55 PM Re: Another 300 WSM Quest [Re: Jcalder]
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You are touching lands at 2.740" ?

I'm pretty certain I can't touch lands and I load to mag length @ 2.860".

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#3178677 - 02/27/13 10:04 PM Re: Another 300 WSM Quest [Re: ewc]
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I touch the lands with a 165 sgk bthp at 2.740. I load a 165 sgk btsp to 2.890 I believe and Barnes ttsx to 2.860.
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#3178679 - 02/27/13 10:05 PM Re: Another 300 WSM Quest [Re: Jcalder]
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I think my next investment is gonna be a bullet comparator so I can refine some of the differences
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#3178681 - 02/27/13 10:06 PM Re: Another 300 WSM Quest [Re: Jcalder]
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Sorry. The btsp is 2.790
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#3178702 - 02/27/13 10:40 PM Re: Another 300 WSM Quest [Re: Jcalder]
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I don't think you are touching the lands with either load.

I think you are measuring your mag length. Look up the max col.

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