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#3178246 - 02/27/13 03:23 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Beekeeper]
Deer Boy
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I'm all for farmers being able to use their property to raise whatever animals that they want! As far as deer from other states, they have to be tested 5 yr cwd free before they cross state lines. Hope TN would do this also!

As far as the ostrich and emu market, I never saw the desire of millions of hunters looking for a "trophy" ostrich! How does Boone and Crockett score a trophy ostrich anyways? :-P
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#3178264 - 02/27/13 03:38 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Deer Boy]
Beekeeper
Good ol' Boys "Team Buckcreek"
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Registered: 08/26/09
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 Originally Posted By: Deer Boy
I'm all for farmers being able to use their property to raise whatever animals that they want! As far as deer from other states, they have to be tested 5 yr cwd free before they cross state lines. Hope TN would do this also!

As far as the ostrich and emu market, I never saw the desire of millions of hunters looking for a "trophy" ostrich! How does Boone and Crockett score a trophy ostrich anyways? :-P
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/28/nation/la-na-texas-deer-20120129

Look at this site and you will see just how much attention some of these folks pay to laws. Look at some of the other states that are dealing with outbreaks of CWD and ask yourself if it would be worth the risk to allow these folks to gain a foothold in TN.


Edited by Beekeeper (02/27/13 03:50 PM)
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#3178268 - 02/27/13 03:42 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Deer Boy]
Beekeeper
Good ol' Boys "Team Buckcreek"
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 Originally Posted By: Deer Boy


As far as the ostrich and emu market, I never saw the desire of millions of hunters looking for a "trophy" ostrich! How does Boone and Crockett score a trophy ostrich anyways? :-P
The Ostrich and Emu market was just a shell game that promised farmers an easy way to wealth. I believe the Deer farms are being promoted in just the same way. If deer breeders didn't have new deer farms to sell to they would have to quit being deer breeders.
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#3178324 - 02/27/13 04:38 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Beekeeper]
Deer Boy
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I'm sure any business any where you look someone will break the law! Whenever you start trading money someone is going to find a way to cheat. So why do you want to "dictate" what LAW abiding farmers want to do on their property according to the actions of others?

Do you believe just because there is a "law" on the books that is going to keep illegal deer from coming into the state? How many deer has it stopped so far? How do you know at that deer haven't been brought into Tennessee already from Wisconsin? You don't!

Most people are law abiding and all the deer farmers I know don't even fit the picture you have painted on here. They are law abiding and they sell all their deer to shooting preserves and to other farmers. They don't have to have TN to make a living. Unlike the emu and ostrich farms the preserves buy everything the farmers have to sell! S it's not your "shell game" that you call it!

Also, even if there was no such thing as CWD you would still be on here, on your "high horse" talking about how unethical it is to kill a deer inside a fence. Why not join PETA and talk about how unethical to shoot a cow in a holding pen and serving up a hamburger?

I view it no different than a tree hugger posing his "ethics and ideals" onto everyone else. Let us be Americans and pursue his or her dreams and get out of the way! All we need is more laws and regulations telling everyone what they can and can't do on their own property!

Guess you and Bowriter will gang up here and start bashing me and my beliefs next! Wish we had better things to do!


Edited by Deer Boy (02/27/13 04:39 PM)
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#3178356 - 02/27/13 04:56 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Deer Boy]
Wes Parrish
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I remember a few years ago, a guy raising python snakes (in Florida) complaining about how it was NOBODY ELSE'S BUSINESS what he raised on his own property.
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#3178369 - 02/27/13 05:09 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Deer Boy]
Beekeeper
Good ol' Boys "Team Buckcreek"
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 Originally Posted By: Deer Boy


I'm sure any business any where you look someone will break the law! Whenever you start trading money someone is going to find a way to cheat. So why do you want to "dictate" what LAW abiding farmers want to do on their property according to the actions of others?

Do you believe just because there is a "law" on the books that is going to keep illegal deer from coming into the state? How many deer has it stopped so far? How do you know at that deer haven't been brought into Tennessee already from Wisconsin? You don't!

Most people are law abiding and all the deer farmers I know don't even fit the picture you have painted on here. They are law abiding and they sell all their deer to shooting preserves and to other farmers. They don't have to have TN to make a living. Unlike the emu and ostrich farms the preserves buy everything the farmers have to sell! S it's not your "shell game" that you call it!

Also, even if there was no such thing as CWD you would still be on here, on your "high horse" talking about how unethical it is to kill a deer inside a fence. Why not join PETA and talk about how unethical to shoot a cow in a holding pen and serving up a hamburger?

I view it no different than a tree hugger posing his "ethics and ideals" onto everyone else. Let us be Americans and pursue his or her dreams and get out of the way! All we need is more laws and regulations telling everyone what they can and can't do on their own property!

Guess you and Bowriter will gang up here and start bashing me and my beliefs next! Wish we had better things to do!
Like you I also believe a farmer should be able to use his land as he sees fit as long as it is legal. A farmer can't grow marijuana, poppies, hemp, Africanized Honeybees and many other things because it is illegal to do so. If there were no danger associated with these products you would see many farmers growing them for a profit. Deer farming falls into the same category,if deer farming posed no risk to the native deer herd it would not bother me a bit to have a deer farm myself.

There is no way that PETA would ever accept me into their ranks, I love to watch the light fade out in the eyes of something I have just put a load of shot, bullet, arrow or anything else I can use, into.

Saturday of this week I hope to reduce a bunch of birds to piles of feathers at the "Pheasant, Chucker and Quail hunt" where they have been pen raised, twirled around in a sack and put out on the ground for my enjoyment!!! \:D
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#3178487 - 02/27/13 06:59 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Deer Boy]
BigGameGuy
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 Originally Posted By: Deer Boy

As far as the ostrich and emu market, I never saw the desire of millions of hunters looking for a "trophy" ostrich! How does Boone and Crockett score a trophy ostrich anyways? :-P


Boone and Crockett scores ostriches the same way they score high-fenced deer...they don't. It violates their fair chase ethics.
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#3178707 - 02/27/13 10:54 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: BigGameGuy]
Deer Boy
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Registered: 11/20/02
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Lol at biggameguy! There goes the ol' "ethics" issue! If high fence is so offensive then shut down the high fence deer hunting "clubs" in TN that's not farmed deer! What's the difference deer is deer.
Your right farmed deer are SCI book animals. SCI does more for the right to hunt and hunters than B&C ever will! Guess you need to shut down the army ammunition hunts also, due to someone's "ethics" might be offended! Next Tennessee will become a right to bait state next, boy that will upset the ethic police!
What does the state care anyways, only thing they're concerned with is controlling the population and pacify the "sportsmanship" complaints and then combine the two.
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#3178769 - 02/28/13 05:08 AM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Deer Boy]
Beekeeper
Good ol' Boys "Team Buckcreek"
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LOL at Deer Boy. I don't think he knows the difference in killing a goat tied to a tree and killing a deer in the Cherokee National Forrest!! \:D \:D
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#3179276 - 02/28/13 01:17 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Deer Boy]
Pursuit Hunter
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Registered: 10/01/08
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 Originally Posted By: Deer Boy
SCI does more for the right to shoot the biggest trophies with the least hunting skills than B&C ever will!
Fixed it for you.

I'll take B&C's ethics and sportsmanship values over SCI's egos and showmanship any day.

Carry on...
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