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#3179603 - 02/28/13 06:45 PM Re: Gun control dying on the vine [Re: Stalkhunter]
Stalkhunter
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 Originally Posted By: Stalkhunter
Wish all you want Gun Ban isnt dying, and wont. Hell TN just voted down its blocking the feds if confiscation comes. Now Switz had a mass shooting. Hang on Blue hats will be coming.


Now Switz had a mass shooting, well now after reading and this maybe cold, but 3 people being killed is not a mass shooting. Its tragic yes but it is sensationalized by the media. The agenda is set by the Puppet Masters. Watch for the selling of our natural resource rights in this country to China. Then you will understand more why they want the Guns.
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#3179858 - 02/28/13 10:24 PM Re: Gun control dying on the vine [Re: Rebel]
JLeòdhas
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#3179976 - 03/01/13 07:00 AM Re: Gun control dying on the vine [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
Debate over gun proposals rages across state (Georgia)
Atlanta Journal-Constitution

The Newtown school massacre has provoked fiery debates at the federal and state levels on whether to scale back the rights of gun owners.

But in Georgia, the focus isn’t entirely on curtailing gun rights.

Many of the more than two dozen gun bills filed so far in the General Assembly are pushing for expanded access to firearms across the Peach State.

This legislative session, following the shooting of 20 students and six adults in a Connecticut elementary school, the debate has been amplified to the point that both sides have the potential to drown out each other and get nothing done.

“I have a real disposition against legislating to exploit a tragedy,” House Speaker David Ralston, R-Blue Ridge, said last week during a legislative forum hosted by the University of Georgia. “You may see one or two of these measures move, but I don’t think you’ll see a dramatic shift.”

Across U.S., in Georgia

The debate comes amid national deliberation over gun safety. Congress is expected this week to begin considering legislation that could include expanding background checks for gun buyers and increasing penalties for those who buy guns for criminals.

The debate is also playing out in state capitols across the country. In one closely watched debate, Colorado legislators are considering a package of gun-control bills that include banning weapons on college campuses, requiring background checks on all gun sales and limiting ammunition magazines to 15 rounds.

In Georgia, the pieces of legislation under consideration cover familiar topics, such as whether students should be allowed to carry guns on college campuses and should assault weapons be banned in the state altogether.

But other issues have risen to the top, including expanding mental health checks for gun owners who want to “conceal and carry”

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/debate-over-gun-proposals-rages-across-state/nWcWg/


Its actually looking good for a couple of the pro bills here in GA.this year right now.


Edited by Unicam (03/01/13 07:01 AM)
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#3180056 - 03/01/13 08:28 AM Re: Gun control dying on the vine [Re: Stalkhunter]
cecil30-30
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 Originally Posted By: Stalkhunter
Wish all you want Gun Ban isnt dying, and wont. Hell TN just voted down its blocking the feds if confiscation comes. Now Switz had a mass shooting. Hang on Blue hats will be coming.
That bill was meaningless and all the other states who passed bills similar to it was also.It was nothing more than political postureing.Had TN passed it,and the fed govt passed a AWB or some gun control measure and TN not enforce it, all the govt would have to do is threaten to withhold federal tax money from TN if they don't enforce it..

And gun control may not be dead,but its clear that there isn't going to be any new major gun control laws passed with this congress,the Dem's don't even have enough support with in their own party.
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#3180262 - 03/01/13 12:36 PM Re: Gun control dying on the vine [Re: cecil30-30]
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Since these state level bills/laws violate the federal preemption(Article VI clause 2) clause of the Constitution, it would be unconstitutional anyhow. I hate to see us start picking and choosing what portions of the Constitution we want to follow. The whole document is the law of the land, not just pieces of it.
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#3180382 - 03/01/13 02:38 PM Re: Gun control dying on the vine [Re: TNGunsmoke]
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 Originally Posted By: TNGunsmoke
Since these state level bills/laws violate the federal preemption(Article VI clause 2) clause of the Constitution, it would be unconstitutional anyhow. I hate to see us start picking and choosing what portions of the Constitution we want to follow. The whole document is the law of the land, not just pieces of it.


U may want to read both before you say that passing a law is unconstitutional. There is a lot of debate that could swing on either side to what is truly constitutional. At some point in time the states will need to call a bluff.

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#3181223 - 03/02/13 01:38 PM Re: Gun control dying on the vine [Re: waynesworld]
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It has not gone away, it's just gone to ground. It is apparent that this issue could blow up in there faces in the midterm elections. The last thing they want to do is create a Tea Party like movement that would motivate people to vote, against them. Here is a taste of what they may have created:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/...Share%20Buttons
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#3181465 - 03/02/13 05:59 PM Re: Gun control dying on the vine [Re: TNGunsmoke]
TNDeerGuy
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 Originally Posted By: TNGunsmoke
Since these state level bills/laws violate the federal preemption(Article VI clause 2) clause of the Constitution, it would be unconstitutional anyhow. I hate to see us start picking and choosing what portions of the Constitution we want to follow. The whole document is the law of the land, not just pieces of it.


Well....isn't that just the Federalist statement of the day.

How about reading the 10th Amendment—The 10th Amendment states: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."


As codified in law with the 2nd Amendment, the People did not delegate the power to regulate or control the ownership of firearms to the federal government. And, as the 10th Amendment makes clear, all powers not delegated to the federal government are reserved to the States or to the People themselves.
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#3181866 - 03/03/13 07:37 AM Re: Gun control dying on the vine [Re: TNDeerGuy]
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 Originally Posted By: TNDeerGuy
 Originally Posted By: TNGunsmoke
Since these state level bills/laws violate the federal preemption(Article VI clause 2) clause of the Constitution, it would be unconstitutional anyhow. I hate to see us start picking and choosing what portions of the Constitution we want to follow. The whole document is the law of the land, not just pieces of it.


Well....isn't that just the Federalist statement of the day.

How about reading the 10th Amendment—The 10th Amendment states: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."


As codified in law with the 2nd Amendment, the People did not delegate the power to regulate or control the ownership of firearms to the federal government. And, as the 10th Amendment makes clear, all powers not delegated to the federal government are reserved to the States or to the People themselves.


Try using that to repeal the 22,000 gun laws in the country.
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#3181947 - 03/03/13 09:00 AM Re: Gun control dying on the vine [Re: Wildcat]
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Lets not take our fingers off the trigger yet. The current fight may go into a "cease fire" today, but 20 years from now, it may/will spark up again when there are more fence sitters with less interest in gun ownership/rights and are more apt to vote yes on gun control because it does not affect them or their family.

How many of us had to be REMINDED and EDUCATED of what the 2nd Amendment is about...the ability to defend ourselves from a tyranical government. Not hunting or defending ourselves from from the common criminal. This may/will be lost on our future generations. Lets not forget about the group that is dependant upon the government and can be bought by the liberals.

We are moving toward a society that is more urbanized than ruralized...fewer kids getting into hunting and less gun interest. With the urbanization, there is a difficulty in spurring interst (fewer recreational shooting/hunting opportunites).

With the cost of guns ($500+ for a quaility rifle), more people are seeing gun ownership as a luxury, thus fewer owners and less support. With fewer people buying guns, the manufactures must increase price to offset costs, once again, even fewer buyers. Eventually firearms will trully be seen as a luxury item.

Following WW1 and WW2, there was a big turnover of mil surp firearms and an interst to own those weapons. These mil surp weapons were affordable and spurred an interest. You will not see that today.

TAXES, BACKGROUND CHECKS, CAPACTITY RESTRICTIONS, TRANSFER FEES,
or anything else that are less appauling to the fence sitters is what we must fight today.

We must win the fight today and not lose focus on the war. Safeguards must be put in place to protect our future generations.


Edited by 44fanatic (03/03/13 09:04 AM)
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