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#3176606 - 02/26/13 09:24 AM Is prohibiting scopes on muzzleloaders
Doskil
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discriminatory? This article says so.
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Such regulations have come under attack as being discriminatory, since they eliminate the opportunity for hunters who can’t see open sights well enough to achieve proper shot placement and participate in special muzzleloader seasons,” said Toby Bridges, president of the North American Muzzleloader Hunting Association. “To use a scope, other states make hunters jump through hoops by undergoing a medical examination, at their own expense, and applying for an exemption.”



http://www.nrahuntersrights.org/Article.aspx?id=5018

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#3176625 - 02/26/13 09:43 AM Re: Is prohibiting scopes on muzzleloaders [Re: Doskil]
mike243
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Sounds pretty reasonable to me,when i was young I wouldn't have cared,nowadays its a requirement to ck horns or see small limbs ect in the line of site.In a perfect world my bino's would work as well but in a hunting situation when seconds matter a scope cannot be beat IMO
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#3176637 - 02/26/13 09:52 AM Re: Is prohibiting scopes on muzzleloaders [Re: mike243]
Wes Parrish
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Scopes have greatly added to hunter safety, too, as they allow a clearer view both of the game and what's behind it, even for those with great eyes.
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#3176748 - 02/26/13 11:35 AM Re: Is prohibiting scopes on muzzleloaders [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Frankly, I cannot shoot a rifle without a scope. The back sight is too blurry! So yes, it would preclude me from hunting if we had laws that banned scopes.
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#3176781 - 02/26/13 12:02 PM Re: Is prohibiting scopes on muzzleloaders [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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Glad I'm not a muzzleloader hunter, everyone has scopes on thiers in Wisconsin and I supposed I'd already have one on mine if I owned one. Most people use MZ to get past the no rifle zones in the southern part of the state.
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#3176883 - 02/26/13 01:17 PM Re: Is prohibiting scopes on muzzleloaders [Re: Redfred16]
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It all depends on how the season is listed, for example, MZ season is just that, with most anything loaded from the breech being legal, where primitive weapons season can have many more restrictions in most cases.
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#3176970 - 02/26/13 02:36 PM Re: Is prohibiting scopes on muzzleloaders [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
Frankly, I cannot shoot a rifle without a scope. The back sight is too blurry! So yes, it would preclude me from hunting if we had laws that banned scopes.


Same here. I can no longer see the rear sight of open sights. Just a big blur.
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#3177041 - 02/26/13 03:35 PM Re: Is prohibiting scopes on muzzleloaders [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
Frankly, I cannot shoot a rifle without a scope. The back sight is too blurry! So yes, it would preclude me from hunting if we had laws that banned scopes.


Same here. I can no longer see the rear sight of open sights. Just a big blur.


Same for me. I try to voice my dis-pleasure with the manager of Tn. National every year. Iron sights only. Managing people instead of the resource.
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#3177061 - 02/26/13 03:57 PM Re: Is prohibiting scopes on muzzleloaders [Re: Hawk]
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 Originally Posted By: Hawk
 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
Frankly, I cannot shoot a rifle without a scope. The back sight is too blurry! So yes, it would preclude me from hunting if we had laws that banned scopes.


Same here. I can no longer see the rear sight of open sights. Just a big blur.


Same for me. I try to voice my dis-pleasure with the manager of Tn. National every year. Iron sights only. Managing people instead of the resource.


I had no idea TN National didn't allow scopes on MZs. Guess that's why we saw one of our nice middle-aged bucks come off the Refuge during a TN National MZ hunt with one of his back legs nearly shot off.
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#3177112 - 02/26/13 04:31 PM Re: Is prohibiting scopes on muzzleloaders [Re: Hawk]
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 Originally Posted By: Hawk
 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
Frankly, I cannot shoot a rifle without a scope. The back sight is too blurry! So yes, it would preclude me from hunting if we had laws that banned scopes.


Same here. I can no longer see the rear sight of open sights. Just a big blur.


Same for me. I try to voice my dis-pleasure with the manager of Tn. National every year. Iron sights only. Managing people instead of the resource.


LOL! Want me to get after him? Baron and his wife were class mates of mine at UTK many years ago! He should understand, I am sure he can't see any better then the rest of us in the over 40 crowd!
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