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#3175840 - 02/25/13 03:46 PM Re: Sequestration [Re: Rebel]
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 Originally Posted By: Rebel
What ticks me off is that Obama is going to close parks, punish workers by cutting their hours, and reduce air traffic controllers...

All of this seems designed to cause pain to those who work for a living. What about some cuts to socail programs? How about ending service for Obamaphones? Welfare slackers didn't have free phones 10 years ago and now they can't do without them??? Gimme a break! Obama is punishing taxpayers and yep, sequestration was his idea!


He intends to make it as painful as possible for not giving him his way. "Punish your enemies" and all that.
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#3175841 - 02/25/13 03:49 PM Re: Sequestration [Re: Rebel]
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 Originally Posted By: Rebel
What ticks me off is that Obama is going to close parks, punish workers by cutting their hours, and reduce air traffic controllers...

All of this seems designed to cause pain to those who work for a living. What about some cuts to socail programs? How about ending service for Obamaphones? Welfare slackers didn't have free phones 10 years ago and now they can't do without them??? Gimme a break! Obama is punishing taxpayers and yep, sequestration was his idea!

His goal has always been to hurt the makers, and appease the takers. Nothing different this time.
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#3175843 - 02/25/13 03:50 PM Re: Sequestration [Re: Rebel]
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 Originally Posted By: Rebel
What ticks me off is that Obama is going to close parks, punish workers by cutting their hours, and reduce air traffic controllers...

And THEN, he will blame all the headaches he caused on the republicans.
(Yes, he may specifically blame George Bush, but here of late, he's been blaming the congressional republicans for all the problems that didn't even exist until Obama himself created them.)

If America has ever had the proverbial "typical politician",
it is Barack Obama, totally focusing on nothing but partisan politics, trying to make the other guys look bad, while ignoring and refusing to deal with America's real problems.

Obama is more the problem than the solution.

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#3175849 - 02/25/13 03:54 PM Re: Sequestration [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Just my opinion, but Ive seen more waste in the military than I have anywhere besides the obvious stuff like welfare and subsidies. But nobody wants to touch the military or furlough military members that are here in the U.S just training... because of the political fallout. That would be blasphemy, but furloughing food inspectors, dam inspectors, etc. is okay? The project I work on would destroy Nashville if it were to fail, and it is at high risk. The contractors will take any cheaper route they can to maximize profit,rather than just doing it right, without government oversight that could get ugly, more ugly than any of the wars. Im all about small government obviously but there are just some things that could not go private. I just look at the gadzillions that we have spent overseas on military operations with, in my opinion, very little gain from it, and then I physically inspect our failing infrastructure several days a week in this country and it just absolutely ticks me off that we have allowed our infrastructure to get in such bad shape while out globetrotting. It makes me sick that I ever even deployed supporting that globetrotting. Anyway, thats just how I honestly feel about it, through my experiences with it, and nothing will change that.
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#3175932 - 02/25/13 04:41 PM Re: Sequestration [Re: smstone22]
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America NEEDS a strong military.
While I'm against any wasteful expenditures, have to ask, how's our military's track record of being a strong military?

But do we need a U.S. Department of Education? How's their track record been?

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#3175941 - 02/25/13 04:44 PM Re: Sequestration [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Libs are scared to death that the public is going to find out that the cuts weren't the end of the world.
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#3176354 - 02/25/13 10:30 PM Re: Sequestration [Re: Hunter 257W]
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 Originally Posted By: Hunter 257W
I hear what you're saying fishboy, but I don't feel that my government job is in that category. I'm an engineer working for the Dept of Defense and basically my job boils down to making sure the various contractors build Army aircraft to meet our performance requirements and to support price negotiations for each contract. If it weren't for the later job task, the government would be paying even more for the aircraft/weapons that are necessary to support the military.

To Grizzly Johnson - Yep, I had the very same thought except that I was hoping the unpaid time off could slip until next deer season but they tell me there's no chance for that. \:\( Bad thing is that the bills will keep on rolling in throughout that time.


Best case would be those Fridays off for the 22 weeks.... the other option, worst case, is our contract will be cut and 20 people including me will be looking for work. Pretty sorry when the ignorant outnumber the common sense people, and the common sense people have to pay the price and suffer.

The coming weeks will tell.... just sit and wait to see how bad the cuts will be.
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#3176433 - 02/26/13 06:15 AM Re: Sequestration [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
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I suspect all the "cuts" are a bunch of smoke and mirrors.

Its .25% of 1% cut in PROJECTED GROWTH~! So for all the "falling off the cliff" and "drastic cuts"..... What current programs are really being cut? NONE. Only PROJECTED GROWTH is to be cut.

So.... What the hoooaaaah are all these clowns in the media and politics jumping up and down about?

Here is where EVERY American should be pissed AT THE POLITICIANS of both parties.

Instead of cutting waste, blatant fraud (solyndra), and unconstitutional federal meddling which could easily account for 5-10% of Federal spending, they are targeting employees and groups who will be most hurt, and cutting them disproportionally.
Hell, New York is now pushing for Food stamps for PETS!!!!

Democrat/ socialists are specifically waging a campaign of political genocide against Republicans and anybody who opposes their agenda. Citizens are just peasants and pawns to them.


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#3176581 - 02/26/13 08:50 AM Re: Sequestration [Re: fishboy1]
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How much are the "cuts"?

For comparison a family, business, or whatever entity spending $1000 per week would have to cut $23 per week.


In addition since the federal budget starts in October and the cuts won't go into effect until March the amount of the cut is only 7/12 the figure being touted. It's a miniscule amount.

If anyone suffers from this, it's by design.
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#3176710 - 02/26/13 11:04 AM Re: Sequestration [Re: de novo]
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Not only will the cuts be so "small" they will be spread out over time that most of the people will not ever notice it.

Air traffic controlers, late planes and backlogs of passgers?? BS. President Reagan fired them all, every one of them and everything got back to normal in less than 2 months. This time nobody is firing ALL OF THEM, just a few. The air control tower here in Paducah will close but then control will swich to Memphis and nobody will ever know it. The tower here was closed for YEARS before, we really do not need it.

Something was brought up that really brothers me. As for the infrastructure, Obama has brought that up every yeard for the last 5 years now. The first year we gave him over $800 BILLION and the next year he needed more to fix the infrastructure again. Sill the third year once again in his State of the Union Speech he brings it up again and durning the election it comes back up. Each time he asked for more and more money to fix the infrastructure. In his lateest State of the Union speech he once again has the infrastructure in there. So in all the time he's been in office he has NEVER worked on any of the infrastructure with all that money we gave him. So where did it all go???
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