#3170187 - 02/19/13 08:25 PM
Re: Change In Hunting Reg's?
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I am not sure BSK how you can determine the number of deer in a square mile without actually counting them.
First, remember that "deer per square mile" numbers only work when you're talking about large areas; i.e. areas tens of square miles in size. And even then, each square mile won't have the same number of deer at any given time, and deer move around. A deer may cover several square miles over a few days time, or a few months time. Basically, deer density numbers are averages over large areas.
And by the way, the TWRA has counted them! In a round about sort of way. They ran thermal imager counts all over the state a couple of years ago and got very accurate density numbers that worked out for several years in a row. I would say my estimates (based on their data and my camera census data) is pretty close to "average" for those areas.
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#3170196 - 02/19/13 08:30 PM
Re: Change In Hunting Reg's?
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we have farms around maury county in santa fe hickman county and giles county. and for the most part its not un common to see 10-15 deer a sit the most ive seen in a sit is 67. but we have hardwoods ag fields and all the goodies. but I know some that only see 1-5 deer like bsk says. it just depends on the farm. gotta have plenty of food plenty of cover and water and for the most part that in the long run will give you more deer density. imo. but all of this doesn't happen over night lots of time and a whole lot of work. but some farms just cant and some just for some reason don't hold a lot of deer.
And also remember that what is seen while hunting has far more to do with the hunting set-up than the deer density (within reason). A stand set-up that can only see 50 yards in all directions is visually covering only 1.6 acres of ground. A stand that can see 100 yards in all directions is covering 6.5 acres of ground. That's 4 times more ground for each time you double your visual distance. If someone is hunting an ag field where they can see 200 yards, they can easily be visually covering 10 to 20 times more ground than a bow hunter back in thick cover who can only see 25 yards.
Big difference.
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#3170200 - 02/19/13 08:32 PM
Re: Change In Hunting Reg's?
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You guys are lucky at least seeing deer like that helps pass the time. Wish we could get a deer heard like that here in the eastern part of the state
Any habitat will only support so many deer. Agriculture can support a huge number of deer. Mature hardwoods can support few deer.
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#3170226 - 02/19/13 08:44 PM
Re: Change In Hunting Reg's?
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where I live in western nc there's very low deer numbers.2 yrs ago a couple buddies asked me and my bother to join a lease in unit L. needless to say I'm glad I joined. I've hunted nc,ga.sc,and now tn.I hope to stay a while. My first 2 seasons i'm seeing deer on about half my sits. seen approx 50 deer in about 20 days of hunting. May not sound like a lot but I feel like I will see a deer every time I go out. It's worth the 6 hr trip!
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#3170265 - 02/19/13 09:05 PM
Re: Change In Hunting Reg's?
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we have farms around maury county in santa fe hickman county and giles county. and for the most part its not un common to see 10-15 deer a sit the most ive seen in a sit is 67. but we have hardwoods ag fields and all the goodies. but I know some that only see 1-5 deer like bsk says. it just depends on the farm. gotta have plenty of food plenty of cover and water and for the most part that in the long run will give you more deer density. imo. but all of this doesn't happen over night lots of time and a whole lot of work. but some farms just cant and some just for some reason don't hold a lot of deer. And also remember that what is seen while hunting has far more to do with the hunting set-up than the deer density (within reason). A stand set-up that can only see 50 yards in all directions is visually covering only 1.6 acres of ground. A stand that can see 100 yards in all directions is covering 6.5 acres of ground. That's 4 times more ground for each time you double your visual distance. If someone is hunting an ag field where they can see 200 yards, they can easily be visually covering 10 to 20 times more ground than a bow hunter back in thick cover who can only see 25 yards. Big difference.
thanks you never thought of that like that makes sense. but we have also see a lot of deer in thick cover stand only seeing 50-70 yards. I mean we have a lot of deer on our farms very fortunate that we have the land we have. so very thankful.
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#3170304 - 02/19/13 09:29 PM
Re: Change In Hunting Reg's?
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Must be nice to see 67 deer in one sitting. I hunt Unit B and havent seen 67 while hunting in at least the last 5 years combined. Maybe longer. And that includes from opening morning of bow season to late rifle season. Count your blessings.
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#3170336 - 02/19/13 10:01 PM
Re: Change In Hunting Reg's?
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Must be nice to see 67 deer in one sitting. I hunt Unit B and havent seen 67 while hunting in at least the last 5 years combined. Maybe longer. And that includes from opening morning of bow season to late rifle season. Count your blessings.
I am very much so.
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#3170436 - 02/20/13 06:13 AM
Re: Change In Hunting Reg's?
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Just curious are the deer pretty good size in L as far as weight? If anyone needs a doe taken out this coming season shoot me a PM lol. Farthest west i have been in Tennessee is Nashville sounds like some good hunting out there though.
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#3170472 - 02/20/13 07:10 AM
Re: Change In Hunting Reg's?
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Frank G
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Just curious are the deer pretty good size in L as far as weight? If anyone needs a doe taken out this coming season shoot me a PM lol. Farthest west i have been in Tennessee is Nashville sounds like some good hunting out there though.
Just sent PM
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#3170477 - 02/20/13 07:15 AM
Re: Change In Hunting Reg's?
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Frank i didn't get a PM did it not go through
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