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#3167601 - 02/17/13 06:00 PM carry weapon choices
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Are too numerous. I have decided to start carrying but cannot make my mind up. I can't decide between a small pocket size 9mm or a larger pistol carried iwb. I have never so much trouble making a choice on a weapon. I like the idea of pocket carry, but like the idea of a larger gun with more firepower. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Jon
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#3167602 - 02/17/13 06:01 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Jon]
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I carry a Glock 23 (40 caliber). If Redblood is reading this post, I also carry a rare steak in my pocket \:D
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#3167604 - 02/17/13 06:02 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Jon]
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Also not so sure how well iwb will work for me. I'm a pretty good sized guy. 6ft2 270.
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#3167605 - 02/17/13 06:04 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Jon]
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I asked pretty much the same question it appears some carry pocket in the summer aka( ruger lcp 380) and in the winter the larger frames come out at least thats kinda what i took from the posts
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#3167610 - 02/17/13 06:08 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Jon]
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Get both. I carry IWB, but also keep a Ruger LCP in my pocket as a bug.
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#3167612 - 02/17/13 06:09 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: ImThere]
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I carry a Springfield XDS 45 auto in the winter, it's a small gun. Once it's warmer I carry my Ruger LCP. With my wallet holster nobody has any idea I'm packing and I'm wearing a T-shirt and shorts. The LCP also goes with me when I'm in a coat and tie or any dress pants.
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#3167618 - 02/17/13 06:12 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Wildcat]
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This.

I have an SR9c and an LCP.
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#3167622 - 02/17/13 06:16 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: TN Larry]
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I think I prefer a hammerless revolver...imo less chance of something jamming or going wrong...Ruger .357 LCR is what I have. I also have a Gen 23 Glock that I carry around the farm but for off the farm the Ruger
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#3167623 - 02/17/13 06:19 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
I carry a Glock 23 (40 caliber). If Redblood is reading this post, I also carry a rare steak in my pocket \:D


How do you like it? I've been considering getting one for carry, especially after watching hickok45's review on it. Dang, that man can shoot!

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#3167632 - 02/17/13 06:28 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Vermin93]
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Ruger LCP for unconditional carry, Glock 23 when I'll mainly be on my feet or if it just needs to be within reach.
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#3167633 - 02/17/13 06:28 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Vermin93]
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Get one now. Save up and get the other later. Either is better than nothing and you can always add another at a later time. If it comes to it, flip a coin and just remember you'll have the other at some point.

I started with a J-Frame .38 in a pocket holster and added a Glock 19 9mm, an M&P .40C, a Ruger LCP .380, and soon to be a Springfield Armory Mil-Spec 1911 .45 ACP.

Eventually you'll have enough to where you'll pick your gun-o-the-day based on the weather and what type of clothing you'll be wearing that day.

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#3167641 - 02/17/13 06:32 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Jon]
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 Originally Posted By: Jon
Are too numerous. I have decided to start carrying but cannot make my mind up. I can't decide between a small pocket size 9mm or a larger pistol carried iwb. I have never so much trouble making a choice on a weapon. I like the idea of pocket carry, but like the idea of a larger gun with more firepower. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Jon


Whatever caliber you want. 9mm is harder to come by than .40 right now, but it's cheaper to shoot.

Personally, I'm of the opinion that if you're not going to carry on the hip, don't bother....but that's just me.

It all boils down to your personal preference and how the gun fits your hand and carry style.
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#3167643 - 02/17/13 06:33 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
I carry a Glock 23 (40 caliber). If Redblood is reading this post, I also carry a rare steak in my pocket \:D



lol, dont know which is uglier. i just bought a glock 23 interestingly enough.
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#3167659 - 02/17/13 06:46 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: TNRazorback]
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#3167666 - 02/17/13 06:55 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
 Originally Posted By: Poser
I carry a Glock 23 (40 caliber). If Redblood is reading this post, I also carry a rare steak in my pocket \:D



lol, dont know which is uglier. i just bought a glock 23 interestingly enough.




mine glock 23 is a 9mm. you dont even have to shoot at the bad guys, just hold it up and let them gaze at its uglyness and they will either flee or commit suicide, genocide or possibly even herbicide.


Edited by redblood (02/17/13 07:07 PM)
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#3167673 - 02/17/13 07:08 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: redblood]
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I agree Glocks are ugly. I have never really had an interest in them...but am sorta interested in checking out a Glock 30S
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#3167704 - 02/17/13 07:27 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: 93civEJ1]
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S&W 642 Airweight shooting 38+P. Slips in your pocket and is hammerless so nothing to hang on.
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#3167708 - 02/17/13 07:29 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: 93civEJ1]
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I'm looking for a bersa conseal and carry for my pocket, I 've heard alot of good things about them
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#3167741 - 02/17/13 07:45 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Jon]
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 Originally Posted By: Jon
Also not so sure how well iwb will work for me. I'm a pretty good sized guy. 6ft2 270.

My older boy is 6'5 @270. He prefers iwb. He wore it in a few different spots until he found the sweet spot. Took him about a week.
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#3167751 - 02/17/13 07:47 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Bowdacious]
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 Originally Posted By: Bowdacious
 Originally Posted By: Jon
Also not so sure how well iwb will work for me. I'm a pretty good sized guy. 6ft2 270.

My older boy is 6'5 @270. He prefers iwb. He wore it in a few different spots until he found the sweet spot. Took him about a week.
What iwb holster does he use? I'm trying to figure out the best one for a bigger guy.

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#3167764 - 02/17/13 07:54 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
I carry a Glock 23 (40 caliber). If Redblood is reading this post, I also carry a rare steak in my pocket \:D


I carry a model 22 glock, 40 cal.
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#3167780 - 02/17/13 07:59 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Jon]
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Jon, Im 6'1 260-265lbs. Ive used a Galco Kingtuk, Crossbread supertuck and Comptac M-tac comfortably. Everybody is different but Ive been the happiest with these.
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#3167812 - 02/17/13 08:13 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Deerhunter]
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#3167870 - 02/17/13 08:42 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: W.Seay]
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#3167917 - 02/17/13 09:06 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: 09FX4]
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iwb s&w 357 snubby,ruger sr 40c
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#3168021 - 02/17/13 10:10 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: TNRazorback]
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Thanks for all the imput, I appreciate it.
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#3168042 - 02/17/13 10:21 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Jon]
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Ruger lcp for pocket pistol and Ruger sr9c for iwb
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#3168602 - 02/18/13 01:13 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Jon]
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Wife sig sauer P238, .380; me glock 22 in 40 cal.

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#3168604 - 02/18/13 01:15 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: LSUtigers]
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#3168713 - 02/18/13 03:04 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: 93civEJ1]
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 Originally Posted By: 93civEJ1
I agree Glocks are ugly. I have never really had an interest in them...but am sorta interested in checking out a Glock 30S



they couldnt get any uglier. there are better options in tupperware guns out there in my opinion. cz makes a darn good un
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#3168714 - 02/18/13 03:06 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Deerhunter]
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[quote=Deerhunter]Jon, Im 6'1 260-265lbs. Ive used a Galco Kingtuk, Crossbread supertuck and Comptac M-tac comfortably. Everybody is different but Ive been the happiest with these.




at that size, u dont even need a gun. just a poor disposition
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#3168748 - 02/18/13 04:03 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
 Originally Posted By: 93civEJ1
I agree Glocks are ugly. I have never really had an interest in them...but am sorta interested in checking out a Glock 30S



they couldnt get any uglier. there are better options in tupperware guns out there in my opinion. cz makes a darn good un


RedBlood doen't like meat Medium Rare and he is (apparently) a fan of beauty pageants. What can we conclude? Hmm.... \:D
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#3168791 - 02/18/13 04:38 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
 Originally Posted By: redblood
 Originally Posted By: 93civEJ1
I agree Glocks are ugly. I have never really had an interest in them...but am sorta interested in checking out a Glock 30S



they couldnt get any uglier. there are better options in tupperware guns out there in my opinion. cz makes a darn good un


RedBlood doen't like meat Medium Rare and he is (apparently) a fan of beauty pageants. What can we conclude? Hmm.... \:D


Tupperware party at his house \:D
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#3168842 - 02/18/13 05:17 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
If Redblood is reading this post, I also carry a rare steak in my pocket \:D


That is way too much information to share on this site.
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#3169072 - 02/18/13 07:41 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
 Originally Posted By: redblood
 Originally Posted By: 93civEJ1
I agree Glocks are ugly. I have never really had an interest in them...but am sorta interested in checking out a Glock 30S



they couldnt get any uglier. there are better options in tupperware guns out there in my opinion. cz makes a darn good un


RedBlood doen't like meat Medium Rare and he is (apparently) a fan of beauty pageants. What can we conclude? Hmm.... \:D



lol, the steak you posted was no where near Medium rare
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#3169074 - 02/18/13 07:41 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: redblood]
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i do like beauty pageants.
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#3169096 - 02/18/13 07:55 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: redblood]
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#3169127 - 02/18/13 08:19 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: redblood]
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#3169177 - 02/18/13 08:52 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: northeasthunter]
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 Originally Posted By: northeasthunter
springfield xds .45



the springfields look and feel better than the glocks IMO. I am selling the glock i bought. just take the way it feels and shoots. i wish the kimber 1911's werent so costly
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#3169187 - 02/18/13 08:57 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: redblood]
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I love my Glock 36 but, it's still blocky.. Just bought a Springfield XDS, haven't shot it, carried it all weekend... Carries very comfortably for a .45!! We'll see how she shoots this weekend \:\)
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#3169200 - 02/18/13 09:13 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: TNRazorback]
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#3169278 - 02/18/13 10:44 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Kimber45]
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 Originally Posted By: Kimber45
I love my Glock 36 but, it's still blocky.. Just bought a Springfield XDS, haven't shot it, carried it all weekend... Carries very comfortably for a .45!! We'll see how she shoots this weekend \:\)


I think you will like it Kimber. I took my new one for a test drive last Friday. Wish I could find some more fmj rounds for practice. Are you carrying IWB?
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#3169407 - 02/19/13 07:06 AM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: buckaroo]
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 Originally Posted By: buckaroo
I'm looking for a bersa conseal and carry for my pocket, I 've heard alot of good things about them

The BP9CC is a very underrated carry gun IMO. It has a slim, but full-sized grip so that gun is actually controllable, and the trigger is extremely crisp. I've also found them to be far more reliable than many other CC handguns out there. I can't speak for their other products, but that's one I wouldn't hesitate to tote around.
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#3169417 - 02/19/13 07:14 AM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Dbllunger]
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 Originally Posted By: Dbllunger
 Originally Posted By: Kimber45
I love my Glock 36 but, it's still blocky.. Just bought a Springfield XDS, haven't shot it, carried it all weekend... Carries very comfortably for a .45!! We'll see how she shoots this weekend \:\)


I think you will like it Kimber. I took my new one for a test drive last Friday. Wish I could find some more fmj rounds for practice. Are you carrying IWB?


Yes in a Desantis IWB but am going to order a super-tuck and try it. I bought the desantis for the 36 and it was too snug - fits the XDS well however I'm stuck on trying that super-tuck
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#3169437 - 02/19/13 07:30 AM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Kimber45]
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 Originally Posted By: Kimber45
 Originally Posted By: Dbllunger
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I love my Glock 36 but, it's still blocky.. Just bought a Springfield XDS, haven't shot it, carried it all weekend... Carries very comfortably for a .45!! We'll see how she shoots this weekend \:\)


I think you will like it Kimber. I took my new one for a test drive last Friday. Wish I could find some more fmj rounds for practice. Are you carrying IWB?


Yes in a Desantis IWB but am going to order a super-tuck and try it. I bought the desantis for the 36 and it was too snug - fits the XDS well however I'm stuck on trying that super-tuck


Be ready to wait 6 weeks or more.

I ordered my second Crossbreed for my XDS 6 weeks ago and I emailed them yesterday to check on it. They are swapmed with orders. So many of the "new" gun buyers from Dec-Jan have decided to get carry permint and to carry so they are ordering holsters left and right. The best ones always have the most orders. The "new" gun owners are also wanting the same ammo we all do so that creats more demand.

You will love your Crossbreed once you have adjusted it to where it fits you, give it time and adjust it a few times to see which way is best for you and your gun.

One other thing. Invest in a REAL GUN BELT. Those gun belts are made to hold the gun in place that is important, the other belts are made to hold your pants up.
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#3169463 - 02/19/13 08:00 AM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Jon]
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#3169559 - 02/19/13 09:41 AM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
 Originally Posted By: northeasthunter
springfield xds .45



the springfields look and feel better than the glocks IMO. I am selling the glock i bought. just take the way it feels and shoots. i wish the kimber 1911's werent so costly


Yeah i like my xds better than my glock

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#3169568 - 02/19/13 09:55 AM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Wildcat]
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 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
 Originally Posted By: Kimber45
 Originally Posted By: Dbllunger
 Originally Posted By: Kimber45
I love my Glock 36 but, it's still blocky.. Just bought a Springfield XDS, haven't shot it, carried it all weekend... Carries very comfortably for a .45!! We'll see how she shoots this weekend \:\)


I think you will like it Kimber. I took my new one for a test drive last Friday. Wish I could find some more fmj rounds for practice. Are you carrying IWB?


Yes in a Desantis IWB but am going to order a super-tuck and try it. I bought the desantis for the 36 and it was too snug - fits the XDS well however I'm stuck on trying that super-tuck


Be ready to wait 6 weeks or more.

I ordered my second Crossbreed for my XDS 6 weeks ago and I emailed them yesterday to check on it. They are swapmed with orders. So many of the "new" gun buyers from Dec-Jan have decided to get carry permint and to carry so they are ordering holsters left and right. The best ones always have the most orders. The "new" gun owners are also wanting the same ammo we all do so that creats more demand.

You will love your Crossbreed once you have adjusted it to where it fits you, give it time and adjust it a few times to see which way is best for you and your gun.

One other thing. Invest in a REAL GUN BELT. Those gun belts are made to hold the gun in place that is important, the other belts are made to hold your pants up.


Yeah, I love my Crossbreed. I tried many holsters before it and it is the only one I have stuck with. As for the belt, I agree. I wear a Smoke Jumpers belt with is full strength.
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#3169571 - 02/19/13 09:58 AM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: oakclimber]
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HK P2000SK .40


I've got the same only in 9mm. Love it.

Also Jon, I use the Crossbreed Supertuck. I'm 6'0 and around 250lbs. I can wear it all day.
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#3169736 - 02/19/13 01:42 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: DntBrnDPig]
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I had never even seriously considered carrying a handgun until recently so didn't know where to start in chosing a gun either. I did know that it had to be something small enough that I would actually carry it even in hot weather when I would have no extra clothes to cover it up. To me, this means something that fits in my pocket period. I also wanted something with substantial power rather than some dinky little pop gun. I ended up getting a Kahr PM 40. It meets the "fits in your pocket" requirement to a "T". It meets the "Substantial Power" too. Reliability is where I'm still struggling. I've only shot it about 50 times but I think the Federal 180 gr Hpts I bought are a definite "No Go" with this particular gun. Out of 3 magazines yesterday I had probably 6 or 7 failures - mostly to feed from the mag. It even slammed a couple or more Federal 180gr flatnose FMJ's into the bottom of the feed ramp and jamed. So far it has fed about 15 Estate brand 180gr Flatnose FMJ's perfectly. Of course these subcompacts all require some breaking in so I'm not throwing in the towel until I've shot 250 or so rounds.

The idea of a hammerless revolver has crossed my mind. Simplicity and reliability are guaranteed with a revolver - plus they don't scatter your brass all over the county. \:\)

You guys have given me a good idea here with having a warm weather and cold weather gun. I already have a couple of 1911's that would be perfect for colder weather. But if this Kahr don't pan out, I've still got to work on the warm weather part.

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#3169792 - 02/19/13 02:46 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Hunter 257W]
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Kimber Ultra Raptor II .45ACP on the right side in a Bianchi holster and an LCP in my back pocket in a wallet holster are two of my choices depending on dress and depending on where I am going. I will often have both.
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#3169848 - 02/19/13 03:52 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Unicam]
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.357 mag 2 1/2" barrel.... Only 6 shots but IT DON'T JAM. Fires everytime I pull the trigger.
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#3169870 - 02/19/13 04:17 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Hunter 257W]
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 Originally Posted By: Hunter 257W
I had never even seriously considered carrying a handgun until recently so didn't know where to start in chosing a gun either. I did know that it had to be something small enough that I would actually carry it even in hot weather when I would have no extra clothes to cover it up. To me, this means something that fits in my pocket period. I also wanted something with substantial power rather than some dinky little pop gun. I ended up getting a Kahr PM 40. It meets the "fits in your pocket" requirement to a "T". It meets the "Substantial Power" too. Reliability is where I'm still struggling. I've only shot it about 50 times but I think the Federal 180 gr Hpts I bought are a definite "No Go" with this particular gun. Out of 3 magazines yesterday I had probably 6 or 7 failures - mostly to feed from the mag. It even slammed a couple or more Federal 180gr flatnose FMJ's into the bottom of the feed ramp and jamed. So far it has fed about 15 Estate brand 180gr Flatnose FMJ's perfectly. Of course these subcompacts all require some breaking in so I'm not throwing in the towel until I've shot 250 or so rounds.

The idea of a hammerless revolver has crossed my mind. Simplicity and reliability are guaranteed with a revolver - plus they don't scatter your brass all over the county. \:\)

You guys have given me a good idea here with having a warm weather and cold weather gun. I already have a couple of 1911's that would be perfect for colder weather. But if this Kahr don't pan out, I've still got to work on the warm weather part.


Go to your local gun store with the biggest inventory. Pick up every pistol in their shop to figure out which one suits your hand the best. Rent as many as you can to narrow down which of those is your preferred shooter. After that, you may only have 3 to pick from. Your choice at that point should be based on ease of carry, price, and availability of holsters for that specific pistol.

If you find yourself between a Glock 22 and a Steyr A-1, you should probably go with the Glock, even if it doesn't quite suit you as well as the Steyr. You'll never have trouble finding a holster for the Glock. Most folks have never heard of a Steyr.
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#3169910 - 02/19/13 04:53 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: TAFKAP]
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 Originally Posted By: TAFKAP
 Originally Posted By: Hunter 257W
I had never even seriously considered carrying a handgun until recently so didn't know where to start in chosing a gun either. I did know that it had to be something small enough that I would actually carry it even in hot weather when I would have no extra clothes to cover it up. To me, this means something that fits in my pocket period. I also wanted something with substantial power rather than some dinky little pop gun. I ended up getting a Kahr PM 40. It meets the "fits in your pocket" requirement to a "T". It meets the "Substantial Power" too. Reliability is where I'm still struggling. I've only shot it about 50 times but I think the Federal 180 gr Hpts I bought are a definite "No Go" with this particular gun. Out of 3 magazines yesterday I had probably 6 or 7 failures - mostly to feed from the mag. It even slammed a couple or more Federal 180gr flatnose FMJ's into the bottom of the feed ramp and jamed. So far it has fed about 15 Estate brand 180gr Flatnose FMJ's perfectly. Of course these subcompacts all require some breaking in so I'm not throwing in the towel until I've shot 250 or so rounds.

The idea of a hammerless revolver has crossed my mind. Simplicity and reliability are guaranteed with a revolver - plus they don't scatter your brass all over the county. \:\)

You guys have given me a good idea here with having a warm weather and cold weather gun. I already have a couple of 1911's that would be perfect for colder weather. But if this Kahr don't pan out, I've still got to work on the warm weather part.


Go to your local gun store with the biggest inventory. Pick up every pistol in their shop to figure out which one suits your hand the best. Rent as many as you can to narrow down which of those is your preferred shooter. After that, you may only have 3 to pick from. Your choice at that point should be based on ease of carry, price, and availability of holsters for that specific pistol.

If you find yourself between a Glock 22 and a Steyr A-1, you should probably go with the Glock, even if it doesn't quite suit you as well as the Steyr. You'll never have trouble finding a holster for the Glock. Most folks have never heard of a Steyr.


Well, I already did that and left with the Kahr PM40 which hasn't demonstrated much in the way of reliability at this point. I love shooting it but if it don't feed, it's worthless.

If after a reasonable "break-in" it still won't shoot, I'll do just what you said and head back to the gunshop. I looked that Steyr S-A1 up on line and while I've heard that Steyr makes good guns, it's signficantly larger than the Kahr I have and this Kahr is about as large as I can see really being a true "Pocket" pistol. The same goes for the Glock 22. Both are huge compared to the Kahr.

Maybe you have to go to a "Dinky little popgun" to have a reliable true pocket gun?? Who knows, I may end up with a Ruger LCP. I'm not saying that I won't. What I won't do is buy another large handgun that I can't truly carry in hot weather.


Edited by Hunter 257W (02/19/13 04:58 PM)

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#3170674 - 02/20/13 11:08 AM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Hunter 257W]
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99% of FTE errors are on the shooter, not the gun. To my reasonable knowledge, there's no such thing as a "break-in" period. I think it's more a user break-in than a gun break-in. My dad is having the same issue with his Glock 17. But it only FTE for him....as does every other pistol he's shooting.

Next time you go to the range, shoot your Kahr. Pull the trigger once every thirty seconds, concentrating every effort on keeping your elbow and wrist locked. I highly suspect that you will notice a dramatic decrease in the number of FTE episodes.
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#3170700 - 02/20/13 11:29 AM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: TAFKAP]
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I really like my Walther PPS in 9mm for an IWB carry piece. For the back pocket, most people like the Ruger LCP but I actually found the Taurus TCP to fit my hand better and seems less "snappy" when shooting it. I know some people are not fond of Taurus pistols in general and there have been a few models (not the TCP) that consistently have had problems. My TCP has been flawless in operation with FMJ and 3 different brands of HP ammo.
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#3171006 - 02/20/13 04:38 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: TAFKAP]
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 Originally Posted By: TAFKAP
99% of FTE errors are on the shooter, not the gun. To my reasonable knowledge, there's no such thing as a "break-in" period. I think it's more a user break-in than a gun break-in. My dad is having the same issue with his Glock 17. But it only FTE for him....as does every other pistol he's shooting.

Next time you go to the range, shoot your Kahr. Pull the trigger once every thirty seconds, concentrating every effort on keeping your elbow and wrist locked. I highly suspect that you will notice a dramatic decrease in the number of FTE episodes.


I know what you are saying about autoloaders. If the shooter is absorbing too much of the slide energy, it will cause trouble. What bothers me about this gun though is that it seems to want to slam the cartridge into the base of the feed ramp and jam that way. I've found some video's on YouTube about it. Now I'm always skeptical about these yahoos that get on the internet and cry wolf but I have to admit that I am experiencing what they are talking about to a significant degree. The 2nd round in the magazine doesn't want to sit tilted at the same angle as the follower and also the magazine lips but rather it wants to "lay" down perfectly horizontal. About 2/3 of the time each round does tilt upward to match the follower angle as it becomes the top round each time the gun fires. That other 1/3 of the time, the cartridge stays horizontal and does not tip upward on the front end. This results in the bullet slaming into the bottom of the feed ramp and it jams. I'm not real optimistic about that being caused by a loose hold.

And Kahr does say that a 200 round break in is required. I've read that about all the micro guns.....again, not sure that's going to fix this problem I'm having. Normally, I'd just try a lot of different bullets to see what shape works best with this particular feed ramp but if it's not even hitting the ramp in the right place not sure about that. Oh, well, I'm going to keep shooting and working with it for a while. I got it cheap enough that I think I can get my money back if I want to.

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#3171302 - 02/20/13 08:46 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Hunter 257W]
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For winter carry I do my Springfield XD .40. Other times of the year Ive got a Taurus Millenium Pro. Great shooting little gun, conseals very easily. Thinking of getting a XDs .45, but not sure yet.
Definatly buying me and the lady either Ruger LCP or Taurus TCP. I'd love something to throw in the back pocket (in the wallet holster)
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#3171303 - 02/20/13 08:46 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: CountryBoy053]
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Also have been looking for a good hammerless .38 revolver.
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#3171321 - 02/20/13 09:01 PM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Jon]
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I carry a Ruger LC9
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#3171778 - 02/21/13 09:51 AM Re: carry weapon choices [Re: Hunter 257W]
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 Originally Posted By: Hunter 257W
 Originally Posted By: TAFKAP
99% of FTE errors are on the shooter, not the gun. To my reasonable knowledge, there's no such thing as a "break-in" period. I think it's more a user break-in than a gun break-in. My dad is having the same issue with his Glock 17. But it only FTE for him....as does every other pistol he's shooting.

Next time you go to the range, shoot your Kahr. Pull the trigger once every thirty seconds, concentrating every effort on keeping your elbow and wrist locked. I highly suspect that you will notice a dramatic decrease in the number of FTE episodes.


I know what you are saying about autoloaders. If the shooter is absorbing too much of the slide energy, it will cause trouble. What bothers me about this gun though is that it seems to want to slam the cartridge into the base of the feed ramp and jam that way. I've found some video's on YouTube about it. Now I'm always skeptical about these yahoos that get on the internet and cry wolf but I have to admit that I am experiencing what they are talking about to a significant degree. The 2nd round in the magazine doesn't want to sit tilted at the same angle as the follower and also the magazine lips but rather it wants to "lay" down perfectly horizontal. About 2/3 of the time each round does tilt upward to match the follower angle as it becomes the top round each time the gun fires. That other 1/3 of the time, the cartridge stays horizontal and does not tip upward on the front end. This results in the bullet slaming into the bottom of the feed ramp and it jams. I'm not real optimistic about that being caused by a loose hold.

And Kahr does say that a 200 round break in is required. I've read that about all the micro guns.....again, not sure that's going to fix this problem I'm having. Normally, I'd just try a lot of different bullets to see what shape works best with this particular feed ramp but if it's not even hitting the ramp in the right place not sure about that. Oh, well, I'm going to keep shooting and working with it for a while. I got it cheap enough that I think I can get my money back if I want to.


My apologies for doubting your shooting. I didn't realize it was a bottom-up feeding issue, rather than a "top-out". Have you brought it up with the manufacturer or the gun shop where you bought it?
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